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hi all!
I need to delete the fap on a Fiat Panda with ecu engine 8F2-P2...
Open this ecu ? somewhat risky, as the tool reads and writes to the serial?
Are in possession of mpps,galletto v53...
? can?
Backgroop
22-04-2014, 10:28
With the Mpps you do not have to read it, if it is a 70cv in K-line the you can read with the wing nut for the reading puts us almost an hour, while if ? Can-Bus makes you the virtual read or identify the ecu and you get the original file, otherwise the open, and the laws in j-tag with the cock, if you have a bit of familiarity not ? difficult, I'm testing a rooster v53 and I tried it on two mjt-8xx
why? with the mpps ? risky?
I have to check the car...if ? 70cv I can read it at the bench with the rooster?
I read that the rooster law in the serial...to tour it would be better without the bellies of the ecu...
if you can make a backup....or see if you already? this is a read-made tour ....*****s, with the rooster you should not have any problems in the serial....
a clarification: mpps and the cock are clones
however, the car ? 55 kw
faberecu
25-04-2014, 19:15
I on the panda 8f2 b2 , 75 cv , I have had no problems... the rooster was reading in the little k-line , virtual file , with the tool injector all ok
I had to do an immo off , I made a virgin ... I was not able to write it with anything... I remove connect ktag law ... file to 00
I feel the 53 connects once in jtag ... then zero.. not the law ,I thought the ecu is damaged, exchange the body that was flooded , I read the micro-I transponder
I program the key, the car in motion!!!
on the punto evo no problem???? info I have seen that maybe you have to remove resistance from zero H on the cmd ??
I think that the kess v2 should do reading and writing via serial
faberecu
28-04-2014, 16:48
it is also the cock she has always done , but on this no!!!
I ask those more? expert than me on these cars having the gold you can? write the file to cut with mpps as you do on the g.point 6f3
carlo abarth
28-04-2014, 21:58
what year is the car???
Hello
The x17 to magicmotorsport, read-write with no problem.
No virtual read, read real.
Br.
faberecu
05-05-2014, 01:08
thank you for the info, but to really have all the tools ? that is too expensive
update: read with galletto v53 bdm without problems
glittering chiffon party dress.fitted
15-05-2014, 08:18
In the JTAG with the wingnut right
you Jtag , power supply via galletto: no problem, read pretty fast
? status problem open it?
and you can write through the serial port with the reading you have done over jtag, or you have to necessarily write in a jtag??
faberecu
15-05-2014, 17:20
my 53 zero ! but maybe you ? fried , ktag the law but everything to 00 ecu data ok .... this ? a 8f2 b2, I needed to make a total , but not ? been possible to write it in serial , a k Panda 2012 , with great point, no problem
to consider that the car was avvuvionata , with all-new but always alluvionata , the fact transponer , from the body ,the programmed key , the ecu virgin , and delivered
I I made a stupid mistake...selezionavo by the voice "Select drivers" the ecu via the Fiat-Punto Evo...
instead, I had to choose from BDM/JTAG and then MPC, etc, etc, the ecu is detected, and proceeds with the reading...
With regard to the opening of the ecu: I wet met? the ecu in trichloroethylene to soften the "glue sealant" the white for one night...after which? ? pi status? easy to open it.
I have read on the forum that galletto v53 with the rel? blue does not work properly...my rel? blue up until now has failed only with the writing on iaw59f.
marco_evolution
27-05-2014, 15:00
Hello rebound the 59f in the serial, the cock will not do it if you ? failed connecting pin ? an account...
no I tried to write to the ecu on the bench...but it seems to be an issue with the version v53
marco_evolution
29-05-2014, 19:37
No tested a 59f to tour with wing nut 53 that did not want to learn to work in obd with almost no ecu ? went ok..make sure to check the link and feeds it to the control unit directly..these want a beautiful source with power
Hi can I know the exact procedure of reading in the bdm with galletto v53 0 v54?I always read from the serial port and I have just purchased the v54 and I would like to understand how to do it thanks in advance
You have all the documents in the folder of the rooster is not c'? to get it wrong. C'? also the adapter to use the schedule cmd
Yes, I know, but I need a video practice to be able to take the hand given that I always read from the serial port
Which ECU do you do? The schedule that you have them????
I would like to try and map my ecu mito 1.3 JTDM common rail 95 HP, year 2011, but before making my, safe acquister? a control unit is used so as to be able to learn well...I have everything I have purchased the v54 inclusive of everything, and Monday I get the template
The car has a marelli mj8d and not do it in bdm but bens? in jtag. In the documents there are the pitches where I have to solder the various colored wires . Then if you don't want to solder you buy one of schedule with the needles in the spring for marelli and suitable soldering the wires to the various needles , then it rests on the door read modify and write
Up to here we are...I repeat, I just have to familiarize yourself, but surely you need someone who knows more? of me since I always changed file with the ecm read via serial...cmq thanks of the answers you've been so kind
n.b Monday included in the template I also ordered the tickets with the needles in the spring for marelli siemens, bosch and delphi
For the marelli mj8f you need to change the e xxx...
in the folders of the sw, there are a lot of documents with all the explanations, leggiamoli well before making a mess.
ugoboss you're right but I, in fact, if you do not first understand the process I put my hands on anything I make a mess...the explanations are there, but not full of images that you can understand the whole...
Why? what's missing? According to me c'? all the images in the pdf
explain not ? simple...I should post pictures but I still can't...for example, the ECU BOSCH says that is to be used the switch which then must? be powered with the 12v but with the material that I have, it seems to me difficult to understand how...maybe why? I am a beginner with the readings on the bench because I always read from the serial port and then have a p? unprepared...
there's nothing difficult, feed the switch via the connector, and from them on and off the unit as if it were the instrument panel.
to soon follow? a practical course, so you can take hand thank you the same...the connectors you're talking about end with two jacks, one red and one black? how do I feed them?
you can not ask these questions if you want to work on power units at the counter, a minimum of experience you have to have them, you can power it with anything that has 12v, and preferably a stabilized power supply with a minimum of 2A, but many use a fully charged battery or other power sources, in each case made a bit of experience before you get behind of the control units to open and make it to the tour, I don't know where to go to get the course but the eye around and there are a lot of dodger that bleed money to tell you the things that are well turning on the internet.
I know this well...in fact I'm working on ecus used so as to practice...I have always worked in the obd never at the counter and they are here to learn...experience with the work and the patience trusted no one is born learned...
and then you have not understood my question by the time they are chinese products, I just wanted to know how to use and how to feed them all here
It does not matter if they are chinese..the procedure is always the same..follow the advice of ugoboss
in fact, now I have learned a great ugoboss...I can even cut them and connect the two eib terminals...short acquister? a bosch and marelli and make? my first readings and the counter and then you do? know thanks
and then you have not understood my question by the time they are chinese products, I just wanted to know how to use and how to feed them all here
I understand very well your question, you use and feed as the original products.
in the folders of the sw, there are a lot of documents with all the explanations, leggiamoli well before making a mess.
Hello ugoboss I'm reading at the desk marelli NEVERTHELESS 6JF I unsoldered the resistor and according to the guide of the cock the pin in a total of 12 but only 10 are used for reading...my e xxx marelli included in the template has 12 needles welded them...do I have to unsolder the two true?thanks
Don't have to unsolder anything if loschedino and' marelli pay attention only to the cable that the 12v from the right point
use with all 12 of the needle retracts, if the laws in the bdm with the cock you have to put the adapter without powering it, the power supplies by directly on the comb of the control unit.
use with all 12 of the needle retracts, if the laws in the bdm with the cock you have to put the adapter without powering it, the power supplies by directly on the comb of the control unit.
thanks for the replies...the guide says to use only 10 pitches, and not 12, but the coupon marelli has 12 needles...ok poggio the e xxx with 12 needles on the pitch and see if it reads...ok ugoboss
I put flat bdm adapter, CMD, flat e xxx marelli and food 12 volt...let's hope so...for the first time, I have already? unsoldered the resistor in a moment I'll go ahead
the voltage is 12.9, but it says error micro not supported...I have connected the flat cable adapter flat and e xxx on pitches...then I connected the obd socket with the wires to the corresponding pins but not the law...
Strange controls the contacts of the e xxx ..the verse of the adapter....recheck all the steps to good
then I connect the gallo via usb coleggo the jack and turn on the red light, I connect the flat cable bdm - adapter-CMD - and then I connect the other flat cable to the board marelli...food the ecu to pin 1 with the black cable(-) and pin 5 with the red cable (+) and do the 12 volt power supply...I go on the choice driver bdm-bdm MPC drivers MPC 55x/56/ I click ok...I click on connect, and it tells me to turn off 10 seconds the framework, and then turn on again and writes me error micro sopport...are two things...the manual says to feed only 10 pitches, and not 12, and, in fact, no one responds on this...the coupon 12 needles, and the manual says it is responsible for only 10 so I think its normal that gives the error...the second doubt is if I should or not supply the control unit with the pin 1 and 5...sooner or later we succeed? for one who has never read a tour...
you I confirm that the e xxx with 12 needles will be fine, I use it for a few years, remember that the adapter has the direction, the control unit is fed to the comb, but it seems to me that not only has a power to put on, and the last is when he tells you micro not supported , many times ? precisely because one is missing a power supply, or the needles do not make good contact on pitches, and finally the e xxx spring has the to to as you put it on the ecu.
hello ugoboss then I put the e xxx 12 needles on the pitch and the adapter to put between the two flat without pulling it...regarding the direction of the adapter, the flat longest I plug it in to the jack on the vertical while the flat shorter I plug it in to the jack bent...then I connect the positive to the pin 50 and the negative to pin 1...voltage c ? I wrote a 12.9...pin positive there are pin 50 pin 23 pin 5 and 6...maybe the only thing that's wrong ? place the e xxx on the pitch now try again ? throughout the day I try it always says send file and then writes me error micro not supported...thanks anyway
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I put two photos
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this ? the most complete I hope someone helps me
feeds from the comb of the pin 50 and 23 with the + and pin1 with - , then turn the e xxx positions on the control unit 180?, you put on the contrary, the red wire in the flat ? the n?1 and is connected to the other side on the pcb, in the end, remove the adapter from above the unit,or put it under something that you don't make contact on the capacitors.
ugo nothing to make you not want to know this marelli damn
you have to feed the 23/50 +12V...then if I'm not mistaken the e xxx goes to the contrary. Beware of burning the ECU, as you see that you will find all of the material in the folder of the rooster.....(calm )I the first unit that I did was just a Marelli at the counter made me throw away the sweat to read it to the end, we succeeded? the problem was in the flat cable that was broken fixed the whole cable as smooth as oil....
now the shedino ? put good, at this point, if you are sure you contact on pitches you have to try with another ecu, I would not be the instrument.
ugo, you can't figure that out, I did the test and from the wires did not come out the 12 time I changed the wires and I saw that the 12 volts comes out perfectly...? normal that he did not read the will arrive, or no 2 volts... beautiful chinese products, I must thank those who me sold...now that I've figured out the problem and solved I have read I will have you know
mulla doesn't want to be read that damn
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here are all the links to make the same mistake
falchetto8819
24-09-2014, 21:14
if you put some information in the pi? ? better, type of hw and sw in the ecu
you have to feed the 23/50 +12V...then if I'm not mistaken the e xxx goes to the contrary. Beware of burning the ECU, as you see that you will find all of the material in the folder of the rooster.....(calm )I the first unit that I did was just a Marelli at the counter made me throw away the sweat to read it to the end, we succeeded? the problem was in the flat cable that was broken fixed the whole cable as smooth as oil....
How do I see if the flat cable ? short-circuited or interrupted? the 12 volt switch, in fact, the unit becomes warm, but not always the same error...beginning to think about the rooster who doesn't ? good...the only thing left for me ? see if the flat cable passes current, or solder the pin strip on the pitches at least I'm sure that makes contact...my next purchase will be? the ktag is much more reliable
another test I think is the one to solder the pin strip directly on the pcb, and power the unit with an external power supply, the same food, the rooster, however, without passing through the rooster the same, I usually do so, then the k-tag, which is more reliable ? all to see , we are always talking about clones not dimentichiamocelo.
do as he says Ugoboss feeds the ecu without the use of the cock I use a variable power supply...
so if I understood well I don't have to connect the obd to cock the one with all the wires of all the colors right?so if I understand correctly, the food, the rooster with the normal jack and the control unit of the food from an external power supply without going to the cock, right?tell me if ? so...and then how do I check if the flat ? interrupted, or not?
? always good to use the same power supply with a jack food the cock and then the other output to the control unit, to the flat if you want to try the continuity makes weapons of a multimeter and patience and try to wire to wire.
with the jack I have in the kit, the food, the cock, and with a power supply, the same that I used before I connect it to the ecu but not at the rooster...I think I've got it!the flat I'm already checking...if you even so I throw it to the bucket:cool:
the program to work as drivers or folders I have in the folder fgtech?
the gall you have to connect the usb cable to the pc ? the flat cable with the adapter ? just do not need to be supplied, then the control unit the food part, I always like I have done on these units
how not to be fed the cock and as you turn on the led? I'll also try this before throwing it try them all...
the gall you have to be food.
but, in fact, I know ugo...I also changed the external power supply for the ecu and nothing to do...the only thing left for me ? solder the pin strip but have to buy them who serve me with a pitch of 1,27...once welded I put the adapter marelli, and if not, the law will not even throw it in the bucket...the ecu is not ? burned-why? is powered when I put 12 volts to the sheet and then get the power but not the law...the only thing these damn needles I try to solder the pin strip if all goes well senn? throw it away...
I in the meantime, I'm following this discussion, I had a doubt...then I took a marelli control unit that I had taken long ago .it is the connected to the counter without any problems with the procedure that I have done, and this I connect the usb cable to your pc then put the flat cable feed: the control unit with a power supply, bench it, I will post..I am in possession of the bdm /ktag even with these I have no problems using the same e xxx...as soon as I can you please post photos
the procedure that I have done ? the same...I connect my flat, adapter, cmd, and other flat...the food, the rooster and the food control unit point the needles but nothing other than the law is maledettaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...I said I throw it out for sure...the only remains for me to solder the strip so at least I'm sure they make contact on a pitch...I also would buy the ktag but like ugo are always clones then you never know what will happen you just have to be lucky
ops, of course the usb cable:D
on one thing I am certain is that I do all the right connections...I have noticed that when out the needles from the pitch I want to see the symbol of the rooster any damage etc then poggio needles and makes me a different sound when you put a usb adapter and then the links are all right, and this program isn't right...tomorrow I try to weld the strip hindsight I throw it
now I'm trying to read it online-k...I connect the pin 23 and 50 to the positive pin 1 to ground and pin 88 to the line-k...I plug it in the usb socket, the adapter obd al gallo power supply 13 volts select driver model fiat auto point and do a selection of drivers...now he tells me he has changed error tells me error send wake...
at the end mister sandro can read the file...on the documents of gallo said that the wire of the k-line ? blue but really? not ? blue, but green...connected everything is fine reading time of 30 minutes loaded on the ecm and found the driver...who takes the win, I thank you all in particular ugoboss
hello ake85 in to follow the discussion to me ? come in mind one thing, the resistance that you have unsoldered ? the one that is right? and close them ? are you all right? (I mean where you unsoldered)
post a picture so at least you have a way to see...86048604
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I have put two identical photos this ? another photo where you can see it even better
for me the problem of my cock, then maybe I'm wrong ? that on the label gallo wrote v54 but really? ? a v53 modified to make it work on windows 7...then as I pointed out to my friend when he installed it he sent me the date back two years now and still makes me not always but every so often goes berserk...only that I do not know who can? help me in this...I have heard always reading on various forums of some who have changed many things on the inside!!!
at the end mister sandro can read the file...on the documents of gallo said that the wire of the k-line ? blue but really? not ? blue, but green...connected everything is fine reading time of 30 minutes loaded on the ecm and found the driver...who takes the win, I thank you all in particular ugoboss
sorry, but if a person has the template more of schedule spring to read in the bdm, but what's the use of adapters that are found in the package of the cock? you will need to connect to the same?
guidotacco
29-09-2014, 09:05
sorry, but if a person has the template more of schedule spring to read in the bdm, but what's the use of adapters that are found in the package of the cock? you will need to connect to the same?
serves only the adapter that from fgtech goes to the e xxx,which also leads l power supply
hello giama'a adapters are needed in case you want to solder the pin strip directly on the pitch, which must be connected to the fact that the adapter...the schedule is only used to do soldering in the ecu, but given that I do not makes contact well I'll definitely solder the pin and hope that makes me a contact...and anyway let it be the v54 my personal experience does not ? for anything reliable then everyone has different experiences.
p.s. if you have the cock you can find all the documents in the pdf that explains what they are for
serves only the adapter that from fgtech goes to the e xxx,which also leads l power supply
you mean l adapter with led that serves for the bosch . as soon as I can place a few photos.
the exact means those which can be used not only for the bosch, but also for other just not the bosch powered by a 12 volt, while for others it is not so simple
the exact means those which can be used not only for the bosch, but also for other just not the bosch powered by a 12 volt, while for others it is not so simple
ok ake85 however, six managed to read it by connecting it in line k which cable kit did you use ? the one with the cable perl boot edc17 or the other
the cable where there are more wires (for edc17 exact) at the end of this cursed marelli the read...but it does not end here, I have to find a solution to read in bdm why? ? always pi? sure...sooner or later I win I could not? and should not win her...
p.s. the wire of the k-line ? the green wire is not blue as it says in the manual are two green wires) and should be connected to the pin 88
p.s. the wire of the k-line ? the green wire is not blue as it says in the manual are two green wires) and should be connected to the pin 88
I don't understand a thing, forgive my insistence, but have you tried to connect the other wiring kit with just a few wires to be clear
no I have the wiring connected to the wires that I just said (the one for the edc17)...the wiring that you say you cut everything and made a change since that was not the 12 volt
no I have the wiring connected to the wires that I just said (the one for the edc17)...the wiring that you say you cut everything and made a change since that was not the 12 volt
strange wiring I have in my cock are both with 12v power supply as soon as I can you please post some pictures
yes, I know that both are 12 volt, but a wiring harness that I had was burnt terracotta:cool:
hello I don't know if you can see the photos, I have sent a couple where you can see in the needles of the e xxx, where point (not ? own perfect vision, but you understand) and in the other the type of ecu, read, try to compare with your
I still can't see the photos because? they still have not arrived at the exact limit...I can just see it, and I tell you...anyway, the links that I have done are all spot-on and I'm still banging his head even now me ? the idea of having removed the resistance wrong...my ECU ? NEVERTHELESS-6JF P3
can you please post a photo of the controller 8611
these are the harnesses that I have
when I look at them I still can:)
hello I don't know if you can see the photos, I have sent a couple where you can see in the needles of the e xxx, where point (not ? own perfect vision, but you understand) and in the other the type of ecu, read, try to compare with your
but the schedule spring for the template are already delivered with the needles installed or are to be welded diy? thanks
the schedule in the spring are included in the template (at least to me have given a template with schedule spring)...and the needles are already? beautiful welded them otherwise you have to solder it alone...
I still can't see the photos because? they still have not arrived at the exact limit...I can just see it, and I tell you...anyway, the links that I have done are all spot-on and I'm still banging his head even now me ? the idea of having removed the resistance wrong...my ECU ? NEVERTHELESS-6JF P3
can you please post a photo of the controller 8611 then and a 6jf not a marelli 8 but have you read that type processor mounts
for giama'a needles soldered them to my colleague in my case, and for the processor I do not know how know what? (I am less than a beginner) for all those who have looked at the image of the schedule, I have to say that l? you can not see the adapter (why? I had put it) but I remembered that cos? he did not read, then when I put it in the middle of the adapter, I then read (without food the adattatoare of course)
I'm sorry, but I still haven't figured out which central speaks 6jf. 6f3 8f2.8df.8ds..with regards To the n.processor once you open the central and written over the processor mpc 5565. Etc etc
hello giama'a the post ? for the 8f2 photos posted by me are of a mjd6f3hw03p I just thought that because it was always a marelli couldn't help the user ake85 that st? having difficulty?, sorry if I created confusion
But I figured for me it's not c'? problem .indeed, forgive me if I am allowed.then the needles were soldered diy.
But I figured for me it's not c'? problem .indeed, forgive me if I am allowed.then the needles were soldered diy.
you are not perfettissimi but those 2 times that we have used have worked well
hello giama'a the post ? for the 8f2 photos posted by me are of a mjd6f3hw03p I just thought that because it was always a marelli couldn't help the user ake85 that st? having difficulty?, sorry if I created confusion
I'm not having difficulty? I had difficulty? now I understand the problem of reading in the bdm and the keen eye of a friend of me pointed out anyway, thanks for the thought
I'm not having difficulty? I had difficulty? now I understand the problem of reading in the bdm and the keen eye of a friend of me pointed out anyway, thanks for the thought
I'm sorry, but what was the problem?
then, in a 6jf not a marelli 8 but have you read that type processor mounts
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For the marelli mj8f you need to change the e xxx...
as you change this e xxx? you can? see an attachment with the edit? so to me I only create for the 8f2
these are the harnesses that I have
the wiring harnesses are the same that I have...one for the edc17, one for the adapter, cmd for the bosch, and the other one that you said I, only that my was burnt was not the 12-volt your ? but good...that's all!
I I made a stupid mistake...selezionavo by the voice "Select drivers" the ecu via the Fiat-Punto Evo...
instead, I had to choose from BDM/JTAG and then MPC, etc, etc, the ecu is detected, and proceeds with the reading...
With regard to the opening of the ecu: I wet met? the ecu in trichloroethylene to soften the "glue sealant" the white for one night...after which? ? pi status? easy to open it.
I have read on the forum that galletto v53 with the rel? blue does not work properly...my rel? blue up until now has failed only with the writing on iaw59f.
hello rebound where is this trichloroethylene? chinese shops? I have read that ? a sort of stain remover and it was used many years ago...
glittering chiffon party dress.fitted
02-10-2014, 12:33
Sorry if I ask questions, I follow this discussion in your free time, but I confirmed that we are not speaking of a 8f2p2 but marelli 6jf or 6f3 thanks
glittering chiffon party dress.fitted
02-10-2014, 12:42
Sorry if I ask questions, I follow this discussion in your free time, but I confirmed that we are not speaking of a 8f2p2 but marelli 6jf or 6f3 thanks
Fixed I read all the discussion ? started with 8f2p2 and then finished with 6jf sorry
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