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sisco
16-04-2014, 15:02
hello guys please can you tell me if the egr and fap are disabled correctly as I do not know to do this manually, and I trusted the software but for the egr one reset 2 curves, one 4 and the other 6 cos? I don't know which to upload, I am attaching the file with the various mod
for the fap I used time according to you ? done well?
here's the original https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=5581&d=1380933229
thank you all in advance

sisco
16-04-2014, 15:17
guys the original ? in the bank data of 147 post 19 but in the copy the link I must have done something wrong why? if I click on instead? bring me them me wants to download I apologize to the admim but I'm a little denied for these things, but if someone can? explain where I have gone wrong why? not ? the first time that happens to me

egs
16-04-2014, 15:39
No egr 1 ? well done...the luca stanca seems to be made with time right? Should work fine on this ecu, what year ? the car? It is a euro4?

sisco
16-04-2014, 21:44
hi egs, thanks for letting me answer the luca stanca ? made with time, time I have it already? used to fap on a 147 120 hp and at a distance of 8 months the car has not had any problems.
for the 150 hp I have prepared a file with ecusafe and I have to say that they are almost the same.
the car ? 2007 I do not know if ? euro 4 why? I have only the data of the ecu, as I do when I go to find my brother who is st? abroad, the file golds I got from the database of the forum.
can you explain to me if you can and if you v? as ever, the egr-2 and egr3 are made cos? and if they can give problems.
egr1 car software
egr2 egr remover
egr3 time
hello and thanks again

egs
17-04-2014, 09:12
Watch egr 3 what have you done with the time he cleared the other two controls on the egr that, anyway ? an error that makes the program, but that does not bother. The other could always be an error of the sw, but not me ? ever find it, so I don't know. The fact is that the egr-1 was well as resetting of the valve. For the luca stanca, according to me, you can stay quiet, the car ? euro 4 and should work well time.

sisco
17-04-2014, 22:04
hi egs thanks again for the interest after easter I go on and do the work then let you know how ? way, hello and happy easter to all

legendaryslave
18-04-2014, 00:39
hi egs thanks again for the interest after easter I go on and do the work then let you know how ? way, hello and happy easter to all

keep a gift of easter

egs
18-04-2014, 09:14
Cos'? one-bit-off for the luca stanca what?

legendaryslave
18-04-2014, 13:43
Upload it and don't ask any questions I have about 30 machines that run with this solution

egs
18-04-2014, 18:36
And' to know, to be conscious of what is written on the ecu...that's all.

panterargento
18-04-2014, 18:59
That bit means this:

A value of 0--> DPF OFF - PROBE OFF
A value of 1--> DPF ON - PROBE ON
A value of 2--> DPF OFF - PROBE ON

(Watch in fullscreen? Motorola 8bit)

I, for one? I've never tried it...

panterargento
18-04-2014, 19:12
Anyway, thank you legendaryslave for having made available this beautiful solution...the gift of Easter the sar? for many ;)

egs
18-04-2014, 20:35
Gi?.... ;)

sisco
18-04-2014, 23:34
keep a gift of easter
thanks legend for the gift of easter is true for all of the edc 16c39 or only for this ecu?

panterargento
19-04-2014, 06:20
I think that for the edc16c39 euro 4 should be so?.
Returning to the egr, 2 panettone 0 enough.

sisco
19-04-2014, 10:13
what I don't understand ? as ever the software that I used to fap to touch everything except that bit that says legend (with this I don't want to doubt the word of the legend) was only to understand how they work

panterargento
19-04-2014, 11:17
However, I just tried it and to me ? on light of the dpf clogged...now I don't know if you have to do some resetting.

egs
19-04-2014, 12:24
In any case, before making the dpfoff you have to do the replacement through diagnosis, cos? reset the parameters....

panterargento
19-04-2014, 12:48
I tried to do it with MES after you have loaded the map, but it gave me an error of failure to perform (I have done more? attempts), while this procedure the stool after having shown ori the area of 1000% and and? all well and good, in fact, today when I put the old map and the spy ? been left on, then doing the replacement ? off (this time the procedure it has made me do).
As you say, I want to do it before you load the map with bit-off?

panterargento
19-04-2014, 18:55
Then I redid everything in this way, before writing the map switch-off, with MES are gone tab adjustment and I started to "Replacing the particulate filter,"when he finished, I waited for 40 seconds, then I wrote the map, and at the end I did "Clear functions autoapprese" waiting for again 40 seconds, then I started the engine.
In the whole procedure, I have never put in motion, except at the end.
Happy Easter to you all :cool:

jovandj
20-04-2014, 23:53
The map with the switch-off error filter clogged, but it was not a problem we can take that does not regenerate they try to rebuild....also the egr, you can delete the 2 panettone manually, a time also cuts the egr control in the regeneration phase, that's why? lowers the other 2 curves no problem as well....the fact that time works well for luca stanca but also touches on other things in the map that does not create problems, but it is not a clean job, it is good to do the switch off and dtc removal of the dpf clogged solution that I am studying

panterargento
21-04-2014, 07:18
Anyway after doing the steps above I do not have more? the lamp dpf clogged.

jovandj
21-04-2014, 12:41
What steps are you referring to exactly? ?

sisco
21-04-2014, 14:56
The map with the switch-off error filter clogged, but it was not a problem we can take that does not regenerate they try to rebuild....also the egr, you can delete the 2 panettone manually, a time also cuts the egr control in the regeneration phase, that's why? lowers the other 2 curves no problem as well....the fact that time works well for luca stanca but also touches on other things in the map that does not create problems, but it is not a clean job, it is good to do the switch off and dtc removal of the dpf clogged solution that I am studying

surely if you could do swictch off + only delete the dtc related to fap it would be preferable to the solution of the time why? really? not s? what other dtc delete

panterargento
21-04-2014, 17:26
I have not deleted any dtc, I only made the switch-off according to the procedure of the post 20.

sisco
21-04-2014, 20:18
I have not deleted any dtc, I only made the switch-off according to the procedure of the post 20.

sure, I have understood what you have written what I meant to say ? if you have any faulty probe would be useful to know also the dtc interested, surely with all the components working ? an excellent solution, thank you again legend, and you, who have given a further confirmation,greetings

panterargento
21-04-2014, 20:35

I hope, however, that some qualified to tell her.

sisco
21-04-2014, 21:49
ok I understood perfectly, I think what he has planned in time or ecusafe solution no-fap, not to risk has cleared all the dtc area, for? if ? an area related only to the fap, we would be even, but if c'? some dtc of components that the fap does not have anything to do ? propio a beautiful thing

panterargento
21-04-2014, 22:26
Just cos?, in fact, when I had the 159 I had recovery problems for a sensor with the following error which I then deleted with the MES, and I can say that I do not you ? on light "engine failure", and after that I reported to ori that the area of the light ? she returned to work, same thing for the clogging 1000%, in practice, after the use of those sw you have to manually intervene and fix those areas, that's why? ? the better the solution of the switch-off said that as jovandj ? a clean working environment.

sisco
22-04-2014, 23:35
Then I redid everything in this way, before writing the map switch-off, with MES are gone tab adjustment and I started to "Replacing the particulate filter,"when he finished, I waited for 40 seconds, then I wrote the map, and at the end I did "Clear functions autoapprese" waiting for again 40 seconds, then I started the engine.
In the whole procedure, I have never put in motion, except at the end.
Happy Easter to you all :cool:


hello panther today I wrote the mod switch-off by following the steps that you did, only I used autocom to reset the parameters, when I finished the light ? been turned off, until I tried the car, then? when I turned off and then on the picture ? turned on by giving me dtc"sensor, differential pressure" I cleared the code, and you ? off and then turn back on after a few re-ignition (not always?) the differential pressure was 100-116 mbar, before there were no fault codes, I have checked for? I don't know how much did the pressure) then I loaded the mod no-dpf made from the egr that only lower 2 curves, everything is ok does not turn on no light tomorrow and I still, to? I don't understand what I did wrong why? to me it has not worked. greetings

jovandj
23-04-2014, 01:01
Just copy the table dtc from a dtc if the file qualcunoo fara

panterargento
23-04-2014, 08:03
Look, I don't know what to say, to me, for the moment, not by any error, make sure there is a few bits changed x am mistaken, the only advice I can give you ? the use of MES.
One thing I am very sorry, ? that no expert is in our help, maybe why? this ? a question solved in some other discussion.

jovandj
23-04-2014, 09:00
I uploaded the version with the only switch off and gave me the regeneration stopped clogging 327,50% and dpf light switched on in the picture no error, it seems to me in diagnosis, but I have not tried to make a replacement dpf and reset parameters autoadattativi sincerely just c I have a moment I have to try

panterargento
23-04-2014, 10:45
To me ? success just what ? success to you, then I have adopted that procedure, and I do not have more? light on and clogging of 0% in the diagnosis.

jovandj
23-04-2014, 10:56
I have to try and then load the map ori do I replace the dpf load the switch off, and then I do the reset parameters autoadattativi then you should be ok

panterargento
23-04-2014, 11:03
Exactly, remember to wait for 40 seconds, after the replacement dpf that after the reset, then start the engine only at the end of it all.

jovandj
23-04-2014, 11:29
Understood....c and a particular reason for the 40 seconds or just a precaution?? Another thing for the case known a minimum most regular of the method and time ecusafe?? There are other differences with respect to the time ecusafe? ?

panterargento
23-04-2014, 11:39
I don't think there is a particular reason, MES, is indicated only for the reset but I as a precaution, I have also done on the replacement DPF, then with regards to the rest, it all seems as before, but since I've done a few miles I don't know if there will be any surprises in the future, for the moment, I'm still testing it, the only thing certain ? that I do not have more? the light on + clogging 0% in the diagnosis.

jovandj
23-04-2014, 12:10
I understand...I c I did a 3 400 km with the light then I'm broke and I returned to how again now try again, doing as told by you, and verify
..thank you

panterargento
23-04-2014, 12:42
I figured, I hope it works to you, let me know ;)

jovandj
23-04-2014, 13:09
Friday? I try and will update

sisco
23-04-2014, 18:56
I don't have ir? did tests with the mod switch off why? the car I made abroad by my brother and since after I go away he has no way to solve if the light comes on cos? I left the mod made by time, but I would like to go to the bottom to read more? if I were simply going through another, I think that autocom does not do well with the procedure or I really the sensor in the mount the pipe ****** in place of the fap is successful something

jovandj
23-04-2014, 19:37
There are, however, problems all the errors derived from the sensors can be removed from the table dtc without problems...maybe you and broke the sensor itself, and that gives you the error....also because if you use when you lose the errors inherent in the pressure rail turbo and other engine failures

panterargento
23-04-2014, 20:13
Going a little off topic, how do I delete from the table the errors?

jovandj
23-04-2014, 20:31
That gives you the error?? Just copy the table dtc to another without dpf

sisco
23-04-2014, 21:07
That gives you the error?? Just copy the table dtc to another without dpf
the number of dtc unfortunately I didn't saved me, said sensor press. differential or dpf clogged or ecu or wiring, unfortunately not ? who are very experienced and find an ecu without the dpf to copy the table of the dtc at the time, it seems to me a p? complicated for this for now, I leave it cos?, but in the future I prepare well before

panterargento
24-04-2014, 14:43
I understand...I c I did a 3 400 km with the light then I'm broke and I returned to how again now try again, doing as told by you, and verify
..thank you

Will I update it, unfortunately after doing a bit of miles I did a diagnosis and I understand that the clogging salt percentage...I hope that when you get to the 100% non-face-regeneration....when I loaded the map and without having started the engine was clogged, and at 0%...

jovandj
24-04-2014, 15:41
Wait what happened??

panterargento
24-04-2014, 16:56
Just cos?, when I put the map I immediately made a diagnosis, and in that time the dpf was not clogged at 0% and clogging, and with the light off, then I weighed that everything was ok...but I had not put in motion, then I have disconnected all over ? I started to turn around, then after a Bit of miles I've double-checked and I saw that the percentage clogging was at about 75%...

jovandj
24-04-2014, 18:41
to regenerate does not regenerate, trusted, tried, I can tell you what I'm working on a without DPF to copy part of the management to understand what excludes the control DPF, will update

panterargento
24-04-2014, 19:52
Ok, thanks

panterargento
10-05-2014, 16:50
to regenerate does not regenerate, trusted, tried, I can tell you what I'm working on a without DPF to copy part of the management to understand what excludes the control DPF, will update

I solved it with the switch off dpf raggirandolo with the bits clogging up 1000%, bringing it to the maximum value (as he usually does ecusafe) is the result of dpf is not clogged, and clogging up 1000% :)
There I am walking, made 130 km, I double-checked with the diagnosis result to be the same as described.

sisco
10-05-2014, 19:47
I solved it with the switch off dpf raggirandolo with the bits clogging up 1000%, bringing it to the maximum value (as he usually does ecusafe) is the result of dpf is not clogged, and clogging up 1000% :)
There I am walking, made 130 km, I double-checked with the diagnosis result to be the same as described.

hello panther, can you explain exactly which bit you've changed why? the blockage remains at 1000% (if you v? of course)

panterargento
10-05-2014, 21:02

The address in question ? 1E46EE.

sisco
10-05-2014, 21:13

The address in question ? 1E46EE.
thanks a lot panther as soon as I make another I'll try it myself in the meantime if something happens that is not v? keep us informed, thanks again

panterargento
10-05-2014, 21:25
Available ;)

RTR
10-05-2014, 23:55
among the many attempts to try him with ecusafe would not have been a bad idea, on these ecu works well...

jovandj
11-05-2014, 04:36
should be ok because by not clogged, but check in time as it goes because it may re-ignite

panterargento
11-05-2014, 06:30
Certain make? controls ir? frequently, the goal ? exceed 1000 km without a rebuild, then I think it will be? affixed.

panterargento
11-05-2014, 06:35
among the many attempts to try him with ecusafe would not have been a bad idea, on these ecu works well...

Certainly, if you have the result ? the same, I prefer the solution of the switch-off, the sw touch too many things that in the end do not know...and I think that many are not aware of.

jovandj
15-05-2014, 02:05
then I think that putting that bit to 0 will give you clogging 0 and the filter is not clogged, and with only a bit off and everything is fine

panterargento
15-05-2014, 09:51
Saturday I do a test, then I'll know.

jovandj
15-05-2014, 10:02
Known differences on the vehicle? ?

panterargento
15-05-2014, 10:30
A feeling not.

jovandj
15-05-2014, 10:36
have you ever had problems with erratic idling??

panterargento
15-05-2014, 11:25
Up to now, no.

panterargento
17-05-2014, 20:58
then I think that putting that bit to 0 will give you clogging 0 and the filter is not clogged, and with only a bit off and everything is fine

Tried this solution but it does not work, spy on and clogging by 327%, remittance solution with 1000%.

jovandj
17-05-2014, 22:53
Have you tried to reset the dpf from the diagnosis

panterargento
18-05-2014, 07:47
I tried, but the reset I with solution 1000%, otherwise I have the light on.

macinische90
20-06-2014, 14:56
keep a gift of easter fregat mo what a beautiful gift of easter.. feel legendari but in raiano you have a workshop or something? hello

astriunfao
29-06-2014, 20:41
hello i use time to off the egr on this car and work ok.

micheleyr6
dusted this discussion as I should do luca stanca a edc16c39..
would someone be so kind as to post a picture that indicates which is the area of the dtc to be put ori..
thanks..