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[guaro85]

Hi all I wanted to know(if possible) from the pi? experts which attreazzutura recommended for us beginners to start working on power units drive

[Backgroop]

Hello first, I advise you to have a course in order to understand the tipologgia mapping and ecu after you can arrange for the equipment

[anniver]

support then it depends on what use you want to farene if the private or the other, there are many types of programmers in trade

[faberecu]

it is best to start doing .... or to rely on someone with experience... to do the damage it takes a little then son pains trusted
if you have someone near you can experiment, but first be well informed, for me to start a rooster 53 with dima, station ,williem with acc and upa

[michele30]

I agree with my colleagues before better to do a course I do it and still ? gi? some that work, but you always have a thousand questions for a what m other, instead, the course parts already? from a base and not ? little
If you think you do as your machine get something specific for your, otherwise you do a step type, the board of faberecu .

[guaro85]

thanks for the advice anyway, I own a lancia ypsilon 1.3 mj 90hp

[michele30]

I don't use it but I know mpps v12 makes them, but I also know that some people write it ? locked..
I'll counselor more a kess or rooster to have something more substantial, but if you think you make your own, it is also good mpps..

[Zac]

sorry,between gallo and kess which do you prefer ? I know that they work differently...

[michele30]

I have the old Kess and that's fine, although now I am thinking to change it with the Kess v2

[mechanical 85]

Hello I have taken recently the kessv2 me they have advised the admin of this forum

[Zac]

I am also oriented towards the kess, but I would like to understand where you come in.... that is to say for the rest of the ecu use the ktag ?

[franco1971]

Should I take it too, but I'm undecided between the kess and the cock

[michele30]

I use both the old cmd, 100 that the ktag to the tour

[RTR]

As you have advised in many do a course before...? needless to take attezzatura then, when you are not.slightest idea of what auto you have limited expertise in ... the damage that can be done, there are few... said the ioc found a cock or kess 2 by someone who can be a trusted seller... to nail the ecu ? a second....to put it affixed are pain...

[j0nj0nny]

THE kess v2 ? a great product, I personally possido the original, because I have to say that the clone is going well. With regard to the ori, I can say that makes you work quiet, but as the expenditure nonn ? for a pastime, it should be weighted.

Anyway, I agree with that too, before you begin, Make a nice Basic course and then clear and the ideas, don't start without a base, because the damage can be tiring to repair, as spedenre for an equipment or official work.

[mechanical 85]

Or buy a tool ori or the clone, and The file you're leaning to the master as the beginning could go

[explode82]

what can I say that or ori or clone,of an equal number of expenses ? desert the cock why? much more? full allows you to work both the counter and serial-to-discepito of kess who works only with serial and to complete it needs of the ktag

[j0nj0nny]

Or buy a tool ori or the clone, and The file you're leaning to the master as the beginning could go

Just observation!

[j0nj0nny]

what can I say that or ori or clone,of an equal number of expenses ? desert the cock why? much more? full allows you to work
and both the dealer and serial-to-discepito of the kess who works only with serial and complete it needs of the ktag

You, unfortunately, kess is to be completed, or with the Pluing or better ocn K-tag. But to start don't think he has the intention to Open the Ecu.... forrse it would be better to be a bit of familiarity in the map, and only use the Car can do in the OBD, which, in the end, are not few.

[mechanical 85]

For? at least it is rumored that the kess and the top of the cock and then x to begin the best work in serial

[j0nj0nny]

For? at least it is rumored that the kess and the top of the cock and then x to begin the best work in serial

According to me ****s package, standard? and safe use, YOU. But we can't define the Rooster, why not use it, I can only say that kess ? Very good. And then you work the serial has a very small risk, surely the most practical around, especially for those who ? novice

[Ross]

The cock, if invoice european ? very very reliable

[Zac]

The cock, if invoice european ? very very reliable

Ross you use it ?

[max75]

I use the gallo v53 ? I find myself very well in both serial and bench....

[guaro85]

I purchased the kessv2 after you have made a beautiful course, they are waiting for will come to me thanks a lot

[Ross]

Ognittanto use it for jobs via serial, but having the equipment official magicmotorsport I prefer that. Instead, the cock (I have a v48 european) and I use it a lot, bdm

[Zac]

but when speaking of the work in the obd favorite cock v54 or the kess v2 ? of course, I ask someone who has tried both...... but the function recovery of the kess' so much stuff...

[mechanical 85]

And the official kess

[giua]

Hi I have a kess if it happens that locks the ecu after as you can get

[RTR]

depends on the tool that you... usually the originals have a function recovery, which incorporates the ecu without any problems .... otherwise you need to rewrite it in bdm always that you have a copy made in the bdm.

[Ross]

If ? edc16 with bdm backup, though ? edc17 with backup in boot mode

[giarras]

I personally recommend a nice kessv2, of course! the official would be the maximum, but there you can? please also clone without the pretense of updates, at least I believe when the x, the rooster ? certainly pi? versatile because you have so many other possibilities? in addition to being used in serial, but in this case because in the round there are clones of clones some times a little affidabbili think that the game nn is worth the candle.

[giua]

I'm sorry, RTR if I answer only now, but today I had to go in the workshop I have a kess v2 , then one must also have the k tag

[darioz90]

I am also the owner of a kessv2 clone... up to now I have read and written abbastaza , but sometimes it happens to me that I "error alarm" in the process of reading, reading around it means that there are errors in the network-can , but checking with a obd scan all the cetraline not have errors... bu gues you are not :D

[giua]

depends on the tool that you... usually the originals have a function recovery, which incorporates the ecu without any problems .... otherwise you need to rewrite it in bdm always that you have a copy made in the bdm.

How would it be to copy the bdm the original file I have to write with ktag

[giua]

Hi darioz90 me and happened to me once that the kess v2clone me to give you error alarm clock with a point-to-gasoline 2002 because he had the ecu route I linked to provsre to read the ecu pero other machine no

[darioz90]

I know that ? a problem of kess v2 on some units , use the cockerel v54 to work around this problem... :

[tecnoecu]

hello when will be this kind of error, try lowering the speed of reading

[giua]

With the kessv2 clone how do I change the speed

[matteo23]

But with the Kess I don't think it is possible to lower the speed? reading.. Or am I wrong??

[Ross]

Wrong, with the kess, for different units ? can select the pull-up resistance, that is the speed? processing.

[matteo23]

but ? can do it after that ? selected the type of vehicle..?

Also, what would be the resistance of Pull-up..?



Honestly, it seems like I have ever seen..

[Ross]

You do after you've selected the vehicle.

For the pull-up resistor t invite you to read here: pull-up Resistor - Wikipedia http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistenza_pull-up)

[matteo23]

To ****llo practical why? it is changed its value.. ?

Allows you to increase the chance? reading of the car when the Kess from problems of reading..?


Grz of the answers..

[darioz90]

on some kess and some cars from the problem the famous "wake up error"

[matteo23]

and for this reason, you change the resistance of Pull-Up ?? (when d has problems to wake Up the error..??)

[darioz90]

Resistance to change I don't know anything about it, where did you read this thing?

[matteo23]

I connected your answer with the speech that you were doing before your surgery..

[darioz90]

look at that, you must not change any resistance... the wake up error can? be given by the firmware of the chip, or from any problems on the sd card...