Smart battery

[ducati83]

Hello guys I have a problem with a smart 600 series practically just stand still for a day only, why? throw down the battery; I tried to see if the alternator is charging and ? ok, I tried to pull the stereo thinking that draws in to drive off, but nothing.
Now the only test which gave the following result:? was a battery isolator on the positive....of course the battery ? new but also the download if not mounted holds safely the loads and starts the car.
now someone told me to check the absorption on the 10A fuse in place (12), which should be that of the instrument panel actuator gearbox etc etc.....but how ? can?the framework ? powered why? port the kmetraggio but the ? always have been, and in the past did not give problems.....
do you have any advice or evidence to do?
Obviously excluding the alternator, battery and on board accessories,all of which were deleted, and tested the car without....

[Backgroop]

Hello the problems that gave these cars for the discharge of the battery are:
1: The infiltration of water from the windshield or the front part that goes on the ecu fuse holder and the BSI causing a short within and battery discharge.
2:derivation unit under the driver that it must be short for causes of infiltration water or overheating of the relays which remain glued

[hftdelta]

Check that assirbimento you have the machine turned off and the lights off to see if you have absorptions. The charge of the artenatore what have you tried?

[ducati83]

then absorption there is already tried,for the alternator was from a specialized near the shop that only makes alternators...so are in place....
excluding, therefore, the alternator,also with regard to the plate of the diode saw that I did check...for the ecu fuses and bsi is the solution?
the control unit under the seat needs some encoding or another of the same car, so I can mount?I have one working.

[blackwolf76]

Try disconnecting one at a time, the units incriminabili and check which one ? to download the batt.

[ducati83]

the fact ? that absorption there is...now open them all to see the situation oxidation....and we see

[cinqueturbo]

the fact ? that absorption there is...now open them all to see the situation oxidation....and we see

Can I ask you the method that you adopt to see absorption?

[guaro85]

If not c'? absorption as you say, you like to throw yourself down the battery. How to measure the absorption? Where to measure it?

[ducati83]

then the absorption I've measured with a multimeter in parallel on the positive of the battery and on to the positive of the few users of the car is virtually the only small absorption I found it on the positive that goes to the picture....but c'? of course, the small display with the km always on and ? always been so.
I know that if you do not c'? absorption ? strange that you throw down the battery, for this c'? a problem.....
now Friday or Saturday I have the chance? to verify the matter oxidation....yesterday I left without the electronic actuator clutch attached and the battery, new, ? went down....but absorption I have found...

[glittering chiffon party dress.fitted]

Sorry, but the tester did you use it as an ammeter? if you ,it is not connected in parallel to the +terminal 30, but in the series, in this way you can see if you ? absorption hello and good job.

[cinqueturbo]

then the absorption I've measured with a multimeter in parallel on the positive of the battery and on to the positive of the few users of the car is virtually the only small absorption I found it on the positive that goes to the picture....but c'? of course, the small display with the km always on and ? always been so.
I know that if you do not c'? absorption ? strange that you throw down the battery, for this c'? a problem.....
now Friday or Saturday I have the chance? to verify the matter oxidation....yesterday I left without the electronic actuator clutch attached and the battery, new, ? went down....but absorption I have found...

Listen, do so..
get a multimeter, voltmeter, put it on the function Amps and put between the negative Pole of the battery and terminal
and tell me what is the value of ai with the doors closed and all off of course-from the pure n moment, in order to stabilize the voltage..
"I sensed that you were wrong method"....
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[hftdelta]

how old is the battery? not that he has lost efficiency?

[cinqueturbo]

how old is the battery? not that he has lost efficiency?

it could also be..
but a new Battery in stock lasts 10 years..
Guaranteed..

[ducati83]

five you know? to say tomorrow in the evening....anyway thanks, you say? immediately the value.....
no the battery ? new, bosch silver from a big warehouse...we market a lot of old, I don't think they have them and I have never had problems with them....then I have given more? a test....so...I am certain that the battery should be, why? if mounted on the other drive does not give me problems.....
ok tomorrow bring? the test and will I know? say....certainly better than open all of the control units....

[giama'a]

follow the advice of cinqueturbo if you don't have multimeter you can always use a pilot light connected between the negative terminal and the negative pole of battery ,if the ec absorption of the light is beginning to take off and riiserire the fuibili to be able to locate the line that creates absorption

[guaro85]

I cinqueturbo

[hftdelta]

I five turbo battery in stock lasts 10 years, that may not be put to the acid inside.but I doubt that salla smart has a battery without acid,if you use the car metia after 4-5 years the batt and over, then there are also cases that arrive at 6 years, or even that the batt after a year and throw, as for me and he happened to her. So if its has 3-4 years, israel's sixth largest city that can be change

[ducati83]

guys I thank you all but if I tell you that ? to rule out the battery ? to exclude....obvious that I say why? I did some tests....it doesn't take much to understand that the battery ? exhausted....if I try as well a used car that has no battery problems, and me, throws her to the ground....ergo the problem is not ? the battery....
the only thing ? find the absorption where it comes from and then what ? due...will see? in these days, as it says in five....

[hftdelta]

meter to amps connected in series, and disconnect one component at a time to see which one absorbs. check also good for the masses, I advise you to disconnect them, clean them and reattach in the event this. then what IMPORLANTISSIMA, when deadlifts and hang up the components armed with a lot of patience

[ducati83]

then I opened the ecu under the seat and the ecu engine...of course, all oxidized...clean, well...now all fixed
thank you all for your information

[franco1971]

if you run down the battery in a single day at a remarkable absorption, sorry but how many but it is the absorption?,you can't monitor with control tool during the night, so you see what succede.Che I know, as already said, only problem is the infiltration of water, driver's side.

[ducati83]

hello as you can see in the post before I solved it by cleaning the various control units oxidized....
thank you anyway

[franco1971]

sorry so long but I didn't realize that was already solved

[Backgroop]

then I opened the ecu under the seat and the ecu engine...of course, all oxidized...clean, well...now all fixed
thank you all for your information

Like I said I.. I happened to have several with this problem :)

[ducati83]

I figured the additional information may help someone.
unfortunately I do not understand how they can oxidize....the sealing was perfect and it took me a while to open....cmq better cos? had become truly one on which this car.....

[cinqueturbo]

I figured the additional information may help someone.
unfortunately I do not understand how they can oxidize....the sealing was perfect and it took me a while to open....cmq better cos? had become truly one on which this car.....

to me a 307 the water went inside the copper wires, something never seen before...