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matteo23
04-04-2014, 21:36
Hi All!

I have the following problem, I have remade the map of my Golf 105 Hp (? the 4x4 version of 2005), the machine after the mapped goes well, only that it has the following problem that when shooting, for example, 4 or 5 gear at about 4000 rpm at 100% load, the machine goes into protection.. and I find myself with a car that does not take more? the gas..

I thought the problem was due to the surge pressure TURBO, with the Titanium I found only 1 limiter pressure turbo.. In reality how many limiters pressure TURBO normally there are ?


Backgroop
04-04-2014, 21:59
Pi? that limiters the problem you know what else, after diagnosis you made it to see any error codes?

ducati83
04-04-2014, 22:18
you in fact look at the first diagnosis of that problem you....then override on the map.....

neo
05-04-2014, 00:42
If you show us the maps ori and mod maybe together we can find the problem.

blackwolf76
05-04-2014, 00:45
usually on those car just follow the driver of the titanium to have everything ok.

neo
05-04-2014, 02:25
usually on those car just follow the driver of the titanium to have everything ok.
I am not coordinated ,given that there are 10 maps and SOI 6 maps Duration, and so on.I'm talking about for a detailed mapping.

matteo23
05-04-2014, 09:14
Ok, usually those limiters pressure turbo there are machines of this kind ?

blackwolf76
05-04-2014, 10:19
I am not coordinated ,given that there are 10 maps and SOI 6 maps Duration, and so on.I'm talking about for a detailed mapping.
In the sense that following the driver does not have problems of the type of those mentioned above. Then ? obvious that you can? always refine the remapping.

matteo23
05-04-2014, 22:23
Hello all, today I tried to attack, the diagnosis, and the motor goes into protection why? (as I thought) has a Turbo pressure too high..
The pressure turbo I increased to 0.1 bar, and the pressure Limiter turbo I increased by 0.2 bar (200 points).

Now, since I d? this problem (at high-speed, 100% load) I assume is due to the fact that I have not increased the other 3 maps of the "alleged" limiter, turbo pressure, the titanium called : turbo pressure (fTemp).


Second you can? this be the problem?

ducati83
06-04-2014, 00:11
try them and see for yourself by trying if the problem ? what....

blackwolf76
06-04-2014, 00:16
we put less to try that post...

anyway, I will get them up all and I have never had that problem.

matteo23
06-04-2014, 01:01
Ok prover?... If you have any other recommendations are welcome..

matteo23
06-04-2014, 01:05
P. s. The only reason why it doesn't them I had touched before these alleged limiters, ? why? their value (to the limiter) tends to increase instead of going down as a classic map of the turbo pressure or pressure limiter turbo..

Backgroop
06-04-2014, 12:51
Ok, usually those limiters pressure turbo there are machines of this kind ?

These cars have 5 maps for the management turbo and a map that manages svbl.

matteo23
06-04-2014, 19:34
You know the address of the map SVBL ?

Backgroop
06-04-2014, 19:49
You know the address of the map SVBL ?

Post your map

matteo23
06-04-2014, 22:15
Ok, tomorrow I'll post the map..

ducati83
06-04-2014, 23:49
if the map you pointed me to...

matteo23
07-04-2014, 21:12
guys, I can't seem to insert it into the map.. when inserirsco the attachment, it tells me INVALID file..

How can I enter the map ?

Backgroop
07-04-2014, 21:32
guys, I can't seem to insert it into the map.. when inserirsco the attachment, it tells me INVALID file..

How can I enter the map ?

to insert the file, you have to compress with winrar or winzip

matteo23
07-04-2014, 21:35
Here it is... I managed to do it.. let me know what are the addresses that I have to tap to raise the pressure limiters turbo...

Thanks a lot!

ducati83
08-04-2014, 00:42
ok look at the map of the limiter turbo....at the end of the last hump, you'll find a tip....what ? bit of a restriction that should be 2350mbar if I'm not mistaken...

matteo23
08-04-2014, 07:35
This evening, control, and let you know!

It would therefore be on the map that the Titanium called Limiter Pressure Turbo? Or slightly after ?


To be precise, I could give the address?


Thanks a lot!

ducati83
08-04-2014, 10:40
? slightly after....after the map of restriction to the turbo that I don't know how you call it ecm, there are curves with square at the end of these sullpultimo bit of a cruve find the bit limitation.....

matteo23
09-04-2014, 08:57
I tried to move the bits of the SVBL that I brought to 2680 mBAR (considering that the maximum value in the map turbo ? about 2100), the maximum value of bed with the diagnosis in the test phase ? was a peak of 1.55 bar, but the problem still persist..

Perhaps I have to change the whole map where you will find the SVBL (that has fixed values to 2250 mBAR) ?

rego88
09-04-2014, 16:15
you do not cel' do you have a golf 5..... of who ? is makkina???

matteo23
09-04-2014, 17:19
The machine ? of my mother, but now what the center with the speech rimappature?

Thanks to all of you!

munro
10-04-2014, 02:03
the question I believe is a....
you have seen through the diagnosis/scanner/log,what you want to do... precisely how many millibars of press turbo ti v? in the recovery of the car??
you know why I ask you? because gi? ori the SVBL are set to 2750 mbar....you can see them for yourself by scrolling through the maps that the tita calls press turbo f...after the driver itself you will find notes the SVBL set by the ori to what I say to you...
now...already the crowd ori after 1.4 max 1.5 ? at risk....if your car super? this boost means that c'? something that is not v? in the crowd the same....
oppurecome ? already happened to me you're injecting too much fuel ? even if you don't see smoke in the exhaust being in the crowd is a p? too undersized as a result of the diesel because even with all the vgt open...fails to follow the press turo set in the map....

munro
10-04-2014, 02:05
*turo= turbo

matteo23
10-04-2014, 07:11
Many thanks for your response,

You speak of the presence of + SVBL, but these SVBL are more? BIT, or ? just a bit ?

You give me the confirmation, that the map c'? only a map limiter pressure turbo, and just a BIt of SVBL ? Only these two things can send you into the protection of the car, for "over-pressure turbo reached"... Right?

matteo23
10-04-2014, 07:39
I forgot to reply to you and tell you that the turbo pressure comes up (when the car goes into protection) to 1.55 bar, even if the maximum value that I defined inside the map that handles the turbo ? 2100 (the cio? 1.1 bar).

Then in the phase of piccata of the turbo, pass both the value that I have defined for the management of the turbo, that the value of the limiter of the turbo, but you never exceeds the value of SVBL (that I brought 2680 )

matteo23
10-04-2014, 22:03
I have a specific question..

The map of the limiter, turbo pressure, if it is passed as the value (for a time), can? send the machine in for protection ??

munro
10-04-2014, 22:46
sure...I seem to remember that if the actual value of press turbo exceeds 5 seconds, the press is set in the limiter in the ecu from recovery....

matteo23
11-04-2014, 07:04
Thanks a lot, tomorrow prover? to see if I solve...

matteo23
12-04-2014, 08:51
Hello everyone, are NOT able to solve the problem of the protection of the car, in fact, in 5 or 6 gear always occurs the same error: P0234 Turbocharger engine turbocharger - Limit exceeded

I should point out that the turbo pressure arrives, in the moment in which the auto v? in protection, about 1,5 - 1,55 Bar (there it stays for about a few seconds, and then enters into protection).

To exclude the pressure limiters, I put the SVBL to 3000, and the map of the limiter turbo (in the area of the problem) to about 2650, then I don'T think I have passed these limiters..

There are other Limiters of the Turbo ?

munro
12-04-2014, 10:55
e-mail the map mod...let's see if you can figure out something more...
if I do not say nonsense I seem to remember that the edc16 has a protection recovery also on the temperature of the boost pressure which seems to me to intervene if and when the same exceeds 120? C.....
you lai monitored this temp??

matteo23
14-04-2014, 21:57
Hello all, sorry if I have pi? answered but I have been busy..!


I enclose a Screenshot of a table and graph 2D, that the titanium called the "Turbo Pressure (fTemp)"

Second you can? to be a limiter for the turbo pressure? Or NOT center anything with a map management Turbo?

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puntospeed1.3
14-04-2014, 23:31
conosoco the map, not influsce in normal conditions, if the touch does not change anything, maybe ? active in recovery or otherwise.

matteo23
15-04-2014, 07:15
Ok..! Thanks


The area of the map between the torque limiter and the SVBL, that has humps with a value up to 2250, what are they?