Marelli IAW AF bravo 97 1.6 does Not recognize the keys/transponders

[raffaell0]

Hello, I have a problem with a bravo 97, 1.6 petrol. Mounts to a marelli IAW AF,not yet dismantled. I have a normal key and a master key.But both of them doesn't recognize them. Lamp lights immo. What ? or can you? be?
The tests carried out:
- another immo with l?ring,
- disconnected the battery and then reconnected
- I tried to make the diagnosis, with the old plug 3 behind the engine but does not answer me, I can't seem to get the link. Test with Delphi and gutmann.
Thanks

[raffaell0]

The ecu and the keys are with the vehicle's original,doesn't it ? the state made no change.

[redline]

hello, it's a scodifica tot, and you levi persiero

[raffaell0]

But according to you, has lost the codes? The because it does not recognize the keys? The customer I have to give a risposta.Conviene try to get a kit with the ecu+keys? Or do I directly scodifica? The kit should also include l immo and the ring? Or badta the ecu and the keys?

[legendaryslave]

But according to you, has lost the codes? The because it does not recognize the keys? The customer I have to give a risposta.Conviene try to get a kit with the ecu+keys? Or do I directly scodifica? The kit should also include l immo and the ring? Or badta the ecu and the keys?

make the diagnosis ?

[raffaell0]

Diagnosis? Magari.Non has obd.Ha the plug to three poli.Ho tried both with delphi with gutmann originale.Non risponde.Ho only found one plug behind the motore.All within nothing.

[raffaell0]

He said the owner of the car that has always walked with the Master key(red) if it can? be of help?

[redline]

go with the total if no, you can't exit

[raffaell0]

Ok.Provo with the totale.Qualche council?

[redline]

remember to unplug the ecu immo

[raffaell0]

thanks. which soft gi? tested?

[redline]

look here in the forum you may find that the ec

[raffaell0]

? been dismantled. ? a IAW 1AF 1G /55. If I put in the search engine of the forum finds nothing.Or too generallizzato or if you put together no risultsto.I don't know.

[redline]

Hello the file is not a problem, I can post I in the data bank, pero you have to have a programmer and a new memory to be written to the new file

[carlo abarth]

mount a 27c512 erasable uv...I have the same car there around 10 years without code and it is fine
!!

[redline]

I always recommend to keep the memory ori when possible because I understand that maybe don't have a lot of experience for him not to make a mess

[raffaell0]

the heck? Not ? an eeprom normal program using the program?

[raffaell0]

I only know the normal procedures read and write eprom and flash. How do I do that? Do I need to order a new eeprom?as written above, 27c512 of the new generation, and write to the file?

[redline]

you two yoy can I reprogram a new memory I delete the ori with eraser grapes and risciverla I have just a little time I put the file scodifica in the database, so, if needed and available

[raffaell0]

Then reading a p?; If I buy a new eprom,I tell you what exactly, with a gi file? ready,let's say, for example, a file "redline" I can write it with the programmer, and the old eprom the dissaldo and cherish? Can I do so??
The fact ? that st? in the workshop from a friend and it must sooner or later drive out.
Thanks.

[raffaell0]

* overspeed sorry you wrote at the same time ;-) in fact I had conceived of the solution. Can I do so?. Please write to me how you call it exactly an eprom,to buy it. I'm off to conrad and see if I find it.To read it,okay a programmer type, any true?

[legendaryslave]

* overspeed sorry you wrote at the same time ;-) in fact I had conceived of the solution. Can I do so?. Please write to me how you call it exactly an eprom,to buy it. I'm off to conrad and see if I find it.To read it,okay a programmer type, any true?

st27c512 to me you're moving in one direction without having done all the necessary controls.
1 there are all the supplies and ground on the ecu
2 the diagnosis tells you immobiliser problems
3 the rel? the primary is powered and returns power to the ecu
4, the light injection lights
I say all of us? why? you may perform the encoding positively without putting in motion the car and create more problems

[raffaell0]

st27c512 to me you're moving in one direction without having done all the necessary controls.
1 there are all the supplies and ground on the ecu
2 the diagnosis tells you immobiliser problems
3 the rel? the primary is powered and returns power to the ecu
4, the light injection lights
I say all of us? why? you may perform the encoding positively without putting in motion the car and create more problems

Thank you, I try to answer you.
1 the ecu is not ? been touched before. The owner has 2 keys, and the bl? you ? consumed, and not being able to turn the lock, and used the master key, and the cio? she was able to tilt l immobilizer, as with the master key is used to program the other keys, but not the best solution to use it on a daily basis.If this is what they told me ? wrong I can not tell more?. And there are many cases such as these, and the cio? say that they have made updates to the ecu and then ? all went well. This l?I read in the network. True or lie?
So to answer you, and not ? not even a response. L?he removed the mechanic and everything was connected well, with all the masses, even that which is external to the housing of the ecu, if you're referring to this?

2 the diagnosis does not answer me. I tried with delphi, and with a Gutmann original ? the pi? used in germany),the same,not responding. I have seen only one plug to 3-pin behind the engine. If there are others I don't know, I looked at a p? all over the place.Then having had gi? 2 marea weekend, but with the obd, I found myself disoriented.
3 ?
4, the light injection turns on, and if you press the pedal spegne.Risponde to the pedal. But we do not have the codecard.

I don't know what to do. I buy the kit? I scodifica? L?the car and the 97. I'd be happy to make the diagnosis, but should not be. St? going to the intuition. Even why? there are many cases apparently.

[redline]

yes, but we don't need to unsolder are usually in the socket pressure

[raffaell0]

* redline, without desolder ? comfortable ;-) somebody can? post the file, and I try to compose a new one, and then see what you can? to do as a result.

[redline]

the file and in the database

[raffaell0]

ok,let? use.thank you

The car has put in moto.Volevo to thank all those who have helped me and pushed forward. The file "activated" it worked,thanks.

[msport (exil77grande)]

the file and in the database

could you paste the link, and the number of the post of the file in question?

[raffaell0]

It is a moment I see : https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7468&d=1396007310

so it's okay?

[msport (exil77grande)]

It is a moment I see : https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7468&d=1396007310

so it's okay?


it goes well.