Limiter settings Punto 1.9 jtd 80cv

[virus1976]

Buond?
This ? my post and ? also the first time I have to put a hand to a 1.9 jtd 80cv.
The car in question has 10 years and 180,000 km ? changed the turbine (for wear) and remittance to the dot.
I tried to make him a map, the car goes much better only at 3750rpm crashes and not c'? way to make it go further. I thought it was an error of the map so I reloaded the ori, and I noticed the same behavior.
C'? something definitely that escapes me, but I don't know what.
The attachment I posted my map, the original is in the database.

Critical opinions, advice are all welcome
thanks

P. s. The turbo pressure ? was raised from 0,9 to 1,2 (under the advice of turbista)
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P. s. the limit occurs only in fifth gear

[cicciogsr]

put the file ori... that I know of there? the rev limiter

[virus1976]

the file ori ? in the database of the forum that's why? I have posted

[magi1984]

post your original file, why? using the file that c'? in the database of the forum with respect to your amended there are a multitude? increases in the NEGATIVE, and it seems impossible to me.

[alfajtd]

not ? the original of the bank's data

[cicciogsr]

in fact.. I would not like the car was already? mapped when you read.. compare your golds with golds that c'? in the data base

[cicciogsr]

that is.. you need to find another gold, to take away any doubt

[virus1976]

Here is the ori.. I thought that one of the bank's data go well
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[magi1984]

injection zoned: you do not need to start from 600giri to change, start by 1500giri
injection phase, leave it original, if you want to delete the egr there are better ways to do it
enrichment and acceleration parts, also, from 1500giri, for me, the 29% of the load ? too
pressure turbo and turbo pressure ftemp by the same increment, say 150punti from 1500giri up to 5000giri
torque limiter totally redo it, you have given increments in the range of 60 to 139% are exaggerated...
limiter rail pressure one ? modified pi? or less correctly, the other ? changed from 0 up to 70% of load...why????edit it is also up to 100%
I have seen that on all the maps you start at 70%of load about to change...if you wish, you can start from 50%


PS: this one ? my personal opinion, I am not a professional, they are only one who is learning

[msport (exil77grande)]

the file ori ? in the database of the forum that's why? I have posted


if the file ori do not attach because in the database at least paste the link where the file is located ori.

[virus1976]

thanks for the tip
For the torque limiter does not, I realized that I have raised in such a way so as indecent....
the second limiter rail ? on the basis of the engine water temperature so I assume unnecessary and harmful to turn it up over 90 (if I understood correctly)
For the egr I've read around that this ? the procedure used usually, then, if there are other variants I do not know...

[magi1984]

for the EGR in your map c'? the switch to the address 71FEB.
using the hex editor to replace the value 1 with 0

that way you disable the egr valve

[virus1976]

Thanks for the address, I would not have known how to find it

[dvdtuning]

I agree I also with magi1984...you gave too much to the pedal on the final map, and I think that smoke quite fast. The turbo can be distributed over the whole map and the rail I do with a fixed percentage ( e.g. 4%) from 1500 rpm up to the end of the map and I would give a 5% to its limiters to prevent the recovery.
For the egr must be good also cos? that ? the mod standard, the times increase to be met? the map starting from the 50% gradual climb.
Map address 07673C that I think is a limiter in 5th gear it seems to me a bit too much from 50% to 275%.

Also I am new so I speak from what little I know.

[virus1976]

Hello dvdtuning, as you are a talented and recommendations are welcome.
The car does not smoke under acceleration, for? if I'm under 1500 and throw it already? a tablet is a puff. The turbo pressure ? been adjusted mechanically (pressure gauge, and keys) from the mechanic who made the repair,therefore I assume that the maps turbo mentioned from the ecm are the limiters, and on this I have a p? unsure how to handle them. About the torque limiter, I know I have exaggerated, and as before will? give him a fixed adding the various tips. With regards to the rail I prefer to go with real values and not in percentage by changing only the areas necessary.
Now I try other changes since I'm out of the house. When I get back, I'll put in the work and place another file.

thanks

[dvdtuning]

With the rail in a fixed percentage, I have perceived a linearity? delivery more that's why? you consigliavo (always in base to the pedal, and fuel injection) . However, each of them has its own method ? normal.
With the cutting of power do you mean it turns off, that only a failure but salt still spins or that does not go beyond?
For the turbo, being fixed geometry, you know the pressure constant and the peaks that?

[virus1976]

For cutting off power, I mean that the machine only goes up to 3750rpm and does not go beyond, I have not anomalies it lights controlled with the edf and everything seems to be in the norm.
Unfortunately I don't know the owners of point 1.9 to ask for info or to make tests.
The turbine ? been calibrated to the 1.2 constants 1.3 peak that I have under control thanks to a pressure gauge mounted in the passenger compartment

[ecugpm]

Hi to all,

Then, on that car the turbo ? mechanical not necessary to modify the curve, the Egr, you can do a straight line stoppers or physically, if it makes you that fault, test, check and clean the mass air flow sensor, or possibly replace it.

[virus1976]

hello ecugpm
Mass air flow sensor and turbine are new to the inettori have been checked and cleaned, the pump is overhauled, in short, of the old c'? there's little left and nothing

[dvdtuning]

If, with the ori ? the same thing the problem is from the map.
Which programmer have you used for curiosity

[ecugpm]

I the file is not the seen but from previous comments, it is good to do a new file try not to touch the rail, if not more possible to have some problem with the rail.

Greetings

[virus1976]

I'm thinking a mechanical problem, but I don't know where to start seen the parts replaced.. Prover? to make a map without touching the rail, but as I said before the same defect also does it with the original

For the programming I used a mpps 12

[bernardo943]

mpps 12 ? difficult to use ?? you have to know programming and have the right tools right ?

[dvdtuning]

mpps 12 ? difficult to use ?? you have to know programming and have the right tools right ?

For me ? the pi? intuitive.

[virus1976]

mpps 12 ? difficult to use ?? you have to know programming and have the right tools right ?

Not c'? need of much knowledge, and as it says in dvdtuning ? intuitive, just follow the instructions that you d? the program and hardly you can't be wrong

[bernardo943]

so I will try ;) let's see... I'll know ;)