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Hello I'll post one of my first maps ? a giulietta 1.6 jtdm 105cv of 2011 with 39000 km. What do you think??
the original file for comparison where'
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1080&d=1347384836 it's ok in this way?
Are you sure that the file ori is the one that you posted?? The mo file has this number:
Bosch
EDC16C39
1037516795
The ori posted has this number:
Bosch
EDC16C39
1037510822
Yet, I can't download the maps, I thought it was a good fit the same.. this Anyway ? the ori
file ori deleted, I was loaded right?
yannsaba
17-03-2014, 23:56
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leandro89
18-03-2014, 02:11
file ori deleted, I was loaded right?
as it says in the user yannasaba the file ori should be in the database if there were no gi
In the data bank ? gi? there is a file ori of the Giulietta 1.6 jtdm and ? what I posted at the beginning, I still have to plug it into my?
Your file Ori ? different from what c'? in the database of the forum. Post your file ori in the bank, and then put the link qu
I apologize for the error, this ? the links of file ori
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7412&d=1395181257
I have to say that not even I an expert, but from my experience I would say that the increases are few and not consistent. The EGR is not ? excluded correctly, the turbo is not ? incremented in the correct way in my opinion. The an overboost I would leave it lose and if you change it make the map similar. The rail part having touched very little not ? consistent with the limiters. Probably loading this map you'll see the change.
leandro89
19-03-2014, 19:26
I apologize for the error, this ? the links of file ori
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=7412&d=1395181257
the way as you have entered the file does not need to anything, read what I have written in the database in the file that you posted, and see. thanks
As soon as I return the pc to insert the missing data of the map ori, x increases have taught me from a 4% and try the machine, if you do not note nothing of the increase of another point until you get the desired result... the egr set cos? should always remain closed?
jacktheripper2
21-03-2014, 03:47
As beautiful as logic...
Listen, if you have been taught so.. change the master. Do not give increments to the case in a file. Parts from the maps, the map the pedal and torque limiter. If you find The limiters diesel already? it comes out something decent. The sect finally, the afr that you want from the map of the lambda, if you have the dpf does not go to less than 1.1 or better to 1.13.
Thanks x for the advice, but increase of x percent or x points? From that speed and load do I have to increase it?
yannsaba
22-03-2014, 22:08
Then the increase in points for some maps ? mandatory the type maps to the turbo. In any case, if you get used to working for points (? this also implies to understand the decimal values represented in the map ? any conversion factors) do not ? evil. Usually it starts from 1500-2000 rpm loads medium-high (if it loads it comes you will often see that the load has nothing to do with some of the maps). Then everything ? relative to the type of delivery that you want to achieve, with the car stock to get under these schemes ? enough delleterio especially for the sub-transmission.
For example, in the map turbo should I try to increase the values to take advantage of the max pressure of the turbo without going into recovery? do I need to bring the values converted to correspond to a pressure of about 1.5 bar from 1700 rpm to 4000 rpm?
yannsaba
22-03-2014, 22:44
You see that often ? following the value in millibars+the atmospheric pressure, and then if that value take off about 1 bar you have the pressure set in target. It has to be adjusted to the respective limiter that ? the one that leads to recovery. Attention to the physical limit of the turbine ? the beginning of the pumping.
yannsaba
22-03-2014, 22:56
I mean, for example, by taking a review of your file, then we have to adjust the limiters. In the map on this file you have the values expressed in mbar like I said. I have reported an increase of 0.2 bar is right for you to see.
jacktheripper2
23-03-2014, 03:54
Thanks x for the advice, but increase of x percent or x points? From that speed and load do I have to increase it?
Nothing should be done in % usually. We can? be good to do some maps in points. For? many things should be calculated with a calculator to hand. If I were you I'd read in various topic these to learn well. Parts from the things the base, as already said. For a change the car is stock besides The injection times you can let the original.
I'll give you an example, by taking a review of your file then we have to adjust the limiters. In the map on this file have the values expressed in mbar as I told you. I have reported an increase of 0.2 bar just for you to see. I can't see the attachments, however, if x example at 2000 rpm with load at 50% I have a pressure 1850mbar, the increase of 200 points as in the example that you have done to me?
yannsaba
23-03-2014, 14:43
maps the pedal if it does not touch the times, turbo limiters, etc... The speech ? less generic, we have a summary of you and every management is " a story of s?. The reasoning on the turbo ? right. If you add points add mbar, and then if in the 1850 put 200 points you have 2050 make the necessary subtractions and you have the value in the bar, it seems to me a fairly elementary. The case is different for other maps where there are the conversion factors at the p? pi? hard to understand at a glance. About us? follow the discussion that is developing in this regard.
X when it comes to the duty cycle of the egr set cos? the valve should always remain closed, right?
yannsaba
24-03-2014, 23:10
The egr should be made by the control bit on the forum, in the various discussions you find examples..
The egr should be made by the control bit on the forum, in the various discussions you find examples..
the examples can not see them.
the examples can not see them. I started to read the various discussions, you fail to understand the same as you do?
yannsaba
25-03-2014, 23:06
The examples no, but you can? look at some of the discussion where c'? some closure done well.
Instead x the increase of the map to the pedal?
jacktheripper2
28-03-2014, 12:02
Instead x the increase of the map to the pedal?
The map of pedal ? a real request for fuel, only that here ? reported in nm, which are then converted into iq thanks to the map nm/iq, that titanium mark as quantity? diesel fuel is injected. It goes without saying then, that the more you pick up the map the pedal the more the machine iinietter?, natutalmente if you reviewed all The limiters
The map of pedal ? the one that the ecm called injection zoned?
The map of pedal ? the one that the ecm called injection zoned?
not the call is always the same :D sometimes enrichment in acceleration, sometimes the required torque during the acceleration, and in other ways as well.
the first torque limiter affects the map pedal?
pdtechnology
30-03-2014, 21:58
manu, according to me, first the studies and then increments...today, too, the body shops and tire shops make maps(I do not want to) but to intervene on a management engine does not ? as simple as they believe many videos or sellers on the internet....you arrived at this group,forum,community, and I suggest you'd read why? here c'? a lot of great people that helps...but no one can rightly claim that provide you with the plate ready...c'? a section dedicated to the training,ask informed and see....then do you....
jacktheripper2
05-04-2014, 02:52
I do not like to have the dish ready, in fact I prefer to get only the solutions. I asked x to see if I was on the right road after I saw that I have taught you well
If you search the forum you will find many topics relating to the edc16. Summarizing everything I say to you, from the map the pedal, which usually are the first maps of the files that are modified, you require nm, these are converted from the map 'amount? injected' or better map conversion nm/iq. It all starts here, as you ask you will then need to adapt the other maps. If you do not find the limiters diesel? the only alternative to raise the amount? injected over tot amount? sar? to change the timing of the injection and fool the ecu on the real deal? injected. I advise you to look for good limiters for diesel and not to act from the time of injection. Car all original pu? also go well leave them original.
The egr should be made by the control bit on the forum, in the various discussions you will find examples.. I watched a lot of discussions about edc 16 but I have not found anything about egroff, but only on the dpf off, even using the advanced search... Some help if not too much to ask?
starting from your first modified file that you posted, put to zero the two curves ranging from 1B6B0C TO 1B6B22 & 1B6C3E TO 1B6C54 by doing so you take the command of the egr.
sportknight
17-04-2014, 11:02
usually at least on the egr is not wrong then I suggest you try it
with regard to increments etc,everyone has their own methods,c'? who intervenes on the limiters of diesel and then on maps, conversion and driver wish and for those who play on the injection timing by tricking the ecu but losing less time
the pressure of the rail usually you can also increase a little bit,especially if you play with the timing to avoid having pressure drops,the turbo as you do it in points and adapts the limiters and the maf sensors and map(if present), you can let the original unless you let smoke
advances usually if you do not make substantive changes not need to touch them
Thank you so much... the 2 curves correspond to the torque limiter #2 cm ever?
sportknight
18-04-2014, 09:50
I don't have the ecm under the hand and I can not control,put a picture for me to understand
Thank you so much... the 2 curves correspond to the torque limiter #2 cm ever?
wrong definition in the full part of the ecm.
I don't have the ecm under the hand and can not control it,put a picture for me to understand 7723 You see well?
Pu? be that the surge of the turbo, and others are out of the driver? Why? except for the first and those of the rail are all one dimensional, or I say stupid?
jacktheripper2
09-06-2014, 16:46
Pu? be that the surge of the turbo, and others are out of the driver? Why? except for the first and those of the rail are all one dimensional, or I say stupid?
On edc16c39 there are 2 limiters for the turbo, both scored by the drivers of the ecm usually, both after the map turbo pressure, the second ? a single bit after the limiter main. For rail there are 2 limiters data from the driver to the pi? 5-bit 2-to-1720 bar and 3 at 1750 bar.
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