methodology of mapping of a motorcycle????

[Emanuele54]

Hello all,
on the mappings bike, on their methodology and on how to increase, or tap on a map, one finds little in the round, even daifornitori of programmers, not c'? a granch? of courses, or training about.....

qualcunopotrebbe give of the bases ?

Thanks

[biela]

I think that they look pretty, without turbo.
Injection, advance, etc,

Greetings

[Emanuele54]

it is ok but since the maps are much more? front of a car , the approach ? always the same or change only in a few fields in prevalent?

[biela]

I don't understand your question. I hope that someone with more? experience responds to us.

Greetings

[Emanuele54]

They are expressed with a p? evil.....

I wanted to know if the l? the size of the map between cars and motorcycles, the edit method ? always the same?

[m999]

Depends on a molteplicit? factors: unit capacity, fractionation, distribution, phase, compression ratio, type of use, exhaust, etc, etc, etc..

I have to say that ? pi? difficult to squeeze something from a chip-tuning of a bike rather than a car, at least for what ? my limited experience. Or better: let's say that on the bike ? pi? easy to do damage because of the performance of engines that already? of them are high, then get something can? become problematic without a certain amount of experience "mechanical".

Maximum, you are working on the same parameters: fuel injection, ignition, some correction table...

M999

[Emanuele54]

Hello,
exact this ? a key point of my question........ indicatively on the original change as any kind of sucked, but when you come across a bike with a exhaust modified (Depends on a molteplicit? factors: unit capacity, fractionation, distribution, phase, compression ratio, type of use, exhaust, etc, etc, etc..)

how should we respond?
there are a percentage (not to go into detail, since neither the f?, and maybe to understand better.....) indicative of change for the various areas that you have indicated?

Thanks

[m999]

There are no percentages to the "standard" of change. All st? first of all, to their own experience, to the ways in which? to put in the field (test bench and various sensors...) and also to the type of the bike with all the variables that I mentioned.

M999

[Emanuele54]

Hello, but we can not take an example, do it together with the necessary explanations?
remain also a trace for the forum! seen that those who follow the bikes are few and very reserved?

[m999]

Tip: start with the trying hard a file golds and a DP and try to understand why? they have made certain changes. Not the best mapping, but at least allow you to understand why? ? taken on a certain mod in place of another.
Personally, if you need advice on a file that d? problems or ori (always have available) I have no problems to provide info on the mapping "remote" I'm sorry but I do not do. My maps have born moto on the bike, starting from a reading of the ratio A/F and at least 3/4 launches to the bench to hit at least some partial. By l? you start to touch up the maps and try again going to increasing partial readings. Do you know any other ways to intervene on a mapping?

M999

[duke]

great advice of m999 then I speak as an experience according to me you can get a great job starting from the file ori of the bike, then of course discharges the heads machined camshafts go to adapt the whole thing then another thing if you want a good job don't make eye I cos? I did and the results were poor

[Emanuele54]

Hello you are absolutely right

I in this moment I can not download the files, why? missed from the forum for a p?.... for? if someone had a GOLD and a DP by post, we can at least discuss it together and begin to have some idea in pi? and clarifications.

what do you say????

[maximumwarp]

I in this moment I can not download the files, why? missed from the forum for a p?.... for? if someone had a GOLD and a DP by post, we can at least discuss it together and begin to have some idea in pi? and clarifications.

what do you say????

If you are referring to a bike, in particular, I (https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?5716-Flash-mappa-Ducati-Performance-su-ECU-originale-con-MPPS I posted the original file read from my Monster S2R with MPPS and a file Ducati Performance, which should be for the same bike, found in the network.
Maybe you can give a hand to me... :D

[revan]

Sorry, but reading and writing on a Ducati pu? be done with the OBD Vag KKl?

That file you need, maybe I have something...I don't know if I can share or send, I am new to the forum.

Sorry, but reading and writing on a Ducati pu? be done with the OBD Vag KKl?

That file you need, maybe I have something...I don't know if I can share or send, I am new to the forum.

[leandro89]

Sorry, but reading and writing on a Ducati pu? be done with the OBD Vag KKl?

That file you need, maybe I have something...I don't know if I can share or send, I am new to the forum.

Sorry, but reading and writing on a Ducati pu? be done with the OBD Vag KKl?

That file you need, maybe I have something...I don't know if I can share or send, I am new to the forum.

I have gi? explained the mode? insertion of file ori in another discussion, there is the database

[revan]

Yes, I understood, but I thought I would be able to even view the database as well as some other pages, and I was driven by curiosity? to know if there was or not any of the files. To every way I have had a look and I would not c'? nothing...will have to? think about how to remap io.

A further question, if you had a DP ecu I could mount it directly, type I take her and I the other? Or c'? to do some configuration? At least I could in the meantime to preserve the original and make all the tests that I want with the other.

Also, c'? an interface that allows to read the ecu the bike that machine? I speak of the Ducati monster 2002 Peugeot 307 of 2004.

Thanks,
Pask

[revan]

Yes, I understood, but I thought I would be able to even view the database as well as some other pages, and I was driven by curiosity? to know if there was or not any of the files. To every way I have had a look and I would not c'? nothing...will have to? think about how to remap io.

A further question, if you had a DP ecu I could mount it directly, type I take her and I the other? Or c'? to do some configuration? At least I could in the meantime to preserve the original and make all the tests that I want with the other.

Also, c'? an interface that allows to read the ecu the bike that machine? I speak of the Ducati monster 2002 Peugeot 307 of 2004.

Thanks,
Pask

[belinassu]

I change my bike I studied the file ori bike with similar performance more...
I don't know what the policy is on a gasoline car, but on the bike the more intervention points are certainly to the midrange
where there is a vacuum of torque generated by the excessive thinness is dictated by the rules antiinquinamento
I have recounted my experience here (I'm only an enthusiast, not a professional):

[racanacci]

hi, personally I have been able to gain a bit of experience in the field of trial bike inspired by maps which provided Honda at the time of purchase;
by taking good ideas to make the map to your liking...
I know in the road is the most difficult thing, but for a beginner it would be a good thing to purchase maps from the professionals, and maybe with time to draw conclusions on where and how to intervene to map in an efficient and safe way...