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mirks
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my Golf Gtd 2.0 cr 170cv mapped without without DPF EGR,
to which I can not give an explanation.
the machine makes good, zero smoke, but in 5 and 6 around 3700 rpm, 4000 rpm 4200 rpm, what happens is that the car has a slight drop as if alzassi for a moment at the foot of a few mm,
it feels just the push lower and then resume.
the problem is very noticeable in 5 and 6.
I repeat, you feel a slight loss of thrust, but immediately after it continues to push.

with-file-ori no I noticed nothing.
I tried various files, even asking for the service here file on-line, but it is anyway.

to any of you ? already happened to a similar problem?

Thanks

alfajtd
sure something left out and/or not taken into account...
I have never had problems like that

mirks
sure something left out and/or not taken into account...
I have never had problems like that

I also thought I, I then asked for a file, even here msport, but the problem was the same...
I would not like something on the machine, for? with the ori no problem...

alfajtd
without the mod file nesussuno you can? say what ? success.

franco75
have you tried to check if you have a drop in rail pressure?
If you have a drop ? likely that you have the diesel fuel filter clogged or there is a problem when kiln feed diesel

mirks
you sorry... here is the file...
I haven't checked the pressure, the air mass in the intake...

alfajtd
I don't want to know who has done these steps... since this will be the property? someone from the forum...
but I would say that we did not own....
I'm sorry but the error as I suspected st? l?...

leandro89
I don't want to know who has done these steps... since this will be the property? someone from the forum...
but I would say that we did not own....
I'm sorry but the error as I suspected st? l?...

the error is there, where? in the remapping or in the exclusion of the dpf and egr?

mirks
Would you be able to fix it, or at least tell me where to fix it? Since cn all files happens?

alfajtd
in order to respect the work of others you need to you put in place by the creator of the mapping...
if you've been rather leave the ori with the dpf and egr off.
meet tool VAG and try to understand....
are not simple ecu... in the sw ? complex..

leandro89
in order to respect the work of others you need to you put in place by the creator of the mapping...
if you've been rather leave the ori with the dpf and egr off.
meet tool VAG and try to understand....
are not simple ecu... in the sw ? complex..

I have to think that ? a way for you to contact us to the map? or the aid or refrain from judgment

alfajtd
07-03-2014, 17:26
really ? he asks for help..
I replied...
other craft will be able to confirm..
point...

then think of it as you want...
if you contact me you say...

mirks
quiet that you will not contact.... thanks a lot the same to have "attended"

alfajtd
07-03-2014, 19:52
quiet that you will not contact.... thanks a lot the same to have "attended"
Quiet I would say that is not ? for me but for the moderators..
I have rightly indicated where st? the error, which does not depend on the motor, but from the management rebuilt.
The method of resolution ir? appropriate ? your choice.

yannsaba
It is practically implicitly're giving confirmation of what was said by leandro, or at least from the message shines through this.

alfajtd
It is practically implicitly're giving confirmation of what was said by leandro, or at least from the message shines through this.

They really are the only one who has responded and given a line where the problem lies..
While your surgery ? only threatening towards me...

mirks
Guys we avoid the discussion, we ignore these situations... we know the subject...
expect someone to know how to give directions, in the meantime, tomorrow prover? to make a log with some parameters, and Monday change fuel filter and air

alfajtd
07-03-2014, 21:13
I hope that for the " subject" is not reported to me...
Doesn't seem to me to have you proposed maps... Or else....

We do not understand things that are not!!

To which I, my indication was given to...
Instead of spitting sentences make treasure...
The criticism should be considered to be constructive, and not a source of money for those critical...
For some maybe it will be? cos? but I do not h need thanks be to god...
And I spend money both in the research on my own and when I have a chance? of sbrigarmela alone why? I need urgent...

Said there? good work and I hope you solve the better.

leandro89
really ? he asks for help..
I replied...
other craft will be able to confirm..
point...

then think of it as you want...
if you contact me you say...

you came forward, and you said that you know where the error lies, so now you have to say otherwise we will be forced to take action

yannsaba
No my intervention was not threatening towards you do not know you ? I'm not used to shoot on random people, if you re-read well the message c'? a at least that should explain everything. But maybe ? just my interpretation wrong...

admin
I don't want to know who has done these steps... since this will be the property? someone from the forum...
but I would say that we did not own....
I'm sorry but the error as I suspected st? l?...

The first warning for the next time, or by the aid, saying, where is the problem or not comments saying is... it seems to me the way of help so that a user who asks for help

mirks
today I made several log, but nothing unusual...
diesel, rail, map the pedal, turbo, egr(reverse), mass air temp...
only thing abnormal that the requested torque from the pedal, not salt limited by smoke limitation and torque restriction which I don't think ? managed by the map lim a pair (quato has higher values in the map). should I try to raise a bit more the map-injection correction to the address 1F90F8
I'm attaching the log

the butterfly pu? be that limits the torque? as was the case on some gasoline? also if for? the prex remains fixed to 2600 bar (1600)

yannsaba
The butterfly does not limit anything in your case, unfortunately I can't download alleggati but not ? that you have problems only adjustment limiters, maybe you missed something..

mirks
even with the map of Msport same problem...

yannsaba
To those regimes in which laments the problem, you are able to see at what pressure the turbo spins??

franco75
The last step is the rail pressure almost original, and according to me ? best of the old file, so the log does not exceed 1800 Bar in each case.
I don't know anything about edc17 but I think that the problem may be the limiter rail that has the last 2 curves cut, perhaps from the original do not get to touch those areas of the map and you don't have problems, try to bring them to the 1800's

mirks
franco, you say so?? (see attached file)
from the logs the rail pressure exceeded 1800 bar
RPM P. Rail
3933 1800
3933 1784
4002 1808
4048 1816
4117 1816
4186 1872

*leandro turbo pressure constant 1.6 while

instead, the output torque decreases, after the 3200 rpm limited by the parameter that diagnosis appointment, Torque restriction, while having the lim of the pair in the map with a much longer high (but this ? another speech)

franco75
it is perfect, I would try so

mirks
Ok the prover? xo I do not understand why the rail pressure is still @ the high... without the cut

yannsaba
But the problem you f? with all the steps that you posted the qu???? I, however, the time an overboost them I would have left the original since you're already? altino pressure. And two step you left out a torque limiter.

mirks
an overboost I gave him a little but just to help him to get there before the pressure...
the torque limiter, which sees the ecm, I do not think a limiter has very low values, and, in fact, is not considered to be... you have no idea how it is managed?

yannsaba
For the speech an overboost you I said why? often acting cos? ? true that salts before but maybe you can also have piccate absurd, even in the various loads not 100%. For the limiter, I had a look in a hurry, why? I am preparing a guide to posting in the forum, and I look better ? I'll let you know.

mirks
*franco I tried with limititatore rail as you said, but as I thought, nothing changes... I always have these slight dips of the thrust...

mirks
no one has other suggestions :(

mirks
could be a mechanical problem type lack of inflow diesel from the branch of a low?
or the mancanto operation of the auxiliary pump low (immediately before the rail) that at high rpm is not able to stand behind the rail?
specific that I do not have any damage of any kind nor errors in the ecu

oakley1
Riesumo the post.. You are then resolved with the golf Gtd????

mirks
I changed the pressure regulator

oakley1
Hello Mirks. We can feel over the phone?

gabrielikkiu
I too have that problem with the 1.6 but you say that can be the same problem?

Gica
[QUOTE=You have changed the pressure regulator [/QUOTE]
The you could also say before....
But you know....alaid I place all...