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freddyecu
09-09-2012, 17:54
Hello everyone I wanted an opinion on the esludione FAP if the better to drain or drain it out and put a straight pipe on the inside... And what are the differences...then the egr if after having excluded in the ecu, if the better tapparla and what are the differences.. Thanks a lot for your help
msport (exil77grande)
09-09-2012, 18:36
then to the egr just exclude it electronically, and just,for the fap, or put a straight pipe in place of the fap, or put the pipe straight into the fap if it is clogged otherwise it is better to keep it.
freddyecu
09-09-2012, 18:39
I mean if you put the tube in the fap or empty if and only if c' and' difference
guidotacco
09-09-2012, 18:40
then to the egr just exclude it electronically, and just,for the fap, or put a straight pipe in place of the fap, or put the pipe straight into the fap if it is clogged otherwise it is better to keep it.
l egr I the cap is from the ecu and physically,because if they have a p? km they start to leak
msport (exil77grande)
09-09-2012, 18:43
well surely if you empty the fap have a slight vacuum to low with respect to the pipe.
I also prefer to put the tube when ? can eliminate the vacuum that can? cause no fap but I feel that the larger hole with the tip from side to side
guidotacco
09-09-2012, 19:14
is the difference you feel low,but improves a p? at the top,according to me
well surely if you empty the fap have a slight vacuum to low with respect to the pipe.
is the difference you feel low,but improves a p? at the top,according to me
It is true that eliminating the egr, low speed already? ? good the difference? if you put the tube you have to open the fap at least from one side, then solder everything instead if you emptied it, you can always grind them, leaving intact the original welds....
guidotacco
09-09-2012, 19:40
I always place the tube adapter in place of the fap,? easy to make
It is true that eliminating the egr, low speed already? ? good the difference? if you put the tube you have to open the fap at least from one side, then solder everything instead if you emptied it, you can always grind them, leaving intact the original welds....
The tube and the best solution in terms of performance and if you empty the fap you lose just a little at the bottom
freddyecu
09-09-2012, 20:26
many thanks...it was what I wanted to know, in fact, the bass loses a bit after the 2000 rpm and a bomb...and I have the fap emptied...
then placing the tube right should be good to go
checcosassu
26-12-2012, 12:35
to exclude the egr electronically, what do you need?
msport (exil77grande)
26-12-2012, 14:01
to exclude the egr electronically, what do you need?
here you will find the answer that applies also to the egr.
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?1659-mappare-147
I have deleted the Egr electronically and replaced the Dpf with a straight pipe is not included in the fap. The results have been excellent, I have not lost anything and the machine ? much more responsive. Then ? was also mapped
I have deleted the Egr electronically and replaced the Dpf with a straight pipe is not included in the fap. The results have been excellent, I have not lost anything and the machine ? much more responsive. Then ? was also mapped
I confirm what was said by the Kid, my old car was a 147, removed the fap put a straight tube, and mapped. Excellent results without any kind of problem :)
Team electronics
08-01-2013, 14:02
Many times I can highly recommend the holes in terms of time
The Cio? how about a hole in the dpf ?? If you are as curious as I heard about it often but never had the opportunity to see it done
tonybiond
14-01-2013, 20:39
I also made the same changes to thedik to 147 120 hp with fap , now I blocked the egr and put a straight tube, the machine goes very well
When you can't? defappare electronically the hole I do it with a drill bit 12 and it goes well..if not then it must still increase slowly in diameter.. but ? rare..
clearly, in the central part of the fap, say, through-hole, some make it three in a triangle, each of them has its own technique and then test everything as you said before if you do not just widens the hole...................
clearly, in the central part of the fap, say, through-hole, some make it three in a triangle, each of them has its own technique and then test everything as you said before if you do not just widens the hole...................
the cio? explained better to a hole 12 is approximately in the middle of the fap, piercing the cio? also the inner part where we say c'? the filter element and also coming in the top or no ?
legendaryslave
15-01-2013, 11:13
the cio? explained better to a hole 12 is approximately in the middle of the fap, piercing the cio? also the inner part where we say c'? the filter element and also coming in the top or no ?
leave it to lose this technique breaks the ceramic and it will end up in the final, causing vibration and tappamenti
in fact, always best to remove the fap and put the pipe or drain it all and put the tube inside what is pi? secure....
leave it to lose this technique breaks the ceramic and it will end up in the final, causing vibration and tappamenti
I...remember that the dpf-fap reaches very high temperatures, even if you disable the regeneration...we are around the 600?C...(900?C in regeneration) go to the weakening of a structure of the kind that at the same time is invested by a certain pressure in the exhaust...not ? the most out of life...with all the stress that we are in the exhaust..temperature,pressure,vibration,etc.. better to avoid drilling into the ceramic... ^ fap-dpf there are expensive metals, such as palladium or platinum, which also cost 100-150 euro a gram...that's why in some areas there are thieves who steal them smontantandoli from under the car...so instead of bucarli... sell them to specialized centers...maybe racimolate a p? of soldini....
motorsport
15-01-2013, 16:57
leave it to lose this technique breaks the ceramic and it will end up in the final, causing vibration and tappamenti
legendary-I'm sorry, what? your technique you emptied it??
legendaryslave
15-01-2013, 17:04
legendary-I'm sorry, what? your technique you emptied it??
no if the machine is new and I always try to keep it by putting a straight pipe(downpipe) if the empty nacchina loses a little bit, and it sounds mettalico I don't like if just the filter and intasatissimo and no longer usable cutting attacks, and we balance a nice straight tube.
? well try to keep them you never know they send you to a special review with the seizure of the booklet that you do after the rebuys again.
exact also this ? true attention that now the road check your car if ? defappata, they will get the tube straight in the direction of a drive unit for? without the cost then you have to take then when ? can keep intact, we put a nice pipe if you cuccano restores and ripiazzi the fap then you can? make every system that you want to..........
Miiiiiiiii balls that co sti holes...if you enter a car in the workshop and the need to do go in a hurry and can't defapparla electronically and the customer does not want to spend money for a fap again make the hole and on.. the car goes...I have clients who have already? path over 100,000 miles,you're thinking...of course I disagree with what you say about the straight-tube and any issues...
motorsport
15-01-2013, 22:19
in fact, I also do in this way I have always done the holes have not had any problems,then every person to his ideas...
antonio.o
17-01-2013, 21:54
You can? have maybe a picture with the two holes and the tube right to the preservation of the original.
antonio.o
17-01-2013, 21:56
Miiiiiiiii balls that co sti holes...if you enter a car in the workshop and the need to do go in a hurry and can't defapparla electronically and the customer does not want to spend money for a fap again make the hole and on.. the car goes...I have clients who have already? path over 100,000 miles,you're thinking...of course I disagree with what you say about the straight-tube and any issues...
sorry, but I understand that luca stanca electronic and without mechanical modifications holes or the tube?
panterargento
17-01-2013, 22:11
no if the machine is new and I always try to keep it by putting a straight pipe(downpipe) if the empty nacchina loses a little bit, and it sounds mettalico I don't like if just the filter and intasatissimo and no longer usable cutting attacks, and we balance a nice straight tube.
? well try to keep them you never know they send you to a special review with the seizure of the booklet that you do after the rebuys again.
The downpipe does not ? the straight tube that replaces the fap, but ? the pipe that replaces the precatalizzatore immediately at the exit of the turbine, I highly recommend putting it together with the straight tube, of course, by removing the management regenerations, cos? you are going to cancel those pressures that raise the temperature of the crowd.
In short, a nice breath of relief for the whole exhaust system.
panterargento
17-01-2013, 22:14
sorry, but I understand that luca stanca electronic and without mechanical modifications holes or the tube?
If you are luca stanca electronic, you don't have to drill anything, you need to replace with straight pipes, pick one of these up in conformity with the provisions of the sensors.
of course, if you luca stanca, electronic, or empty, or put a straight pipe!!!
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