Opinion the map C2 VTS

[Driver]

Hello all, I wanted an opinion from someone more? expert, if I'm doing well or are out of the way with this mapping.



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[giannimini]

injection you have emaciated, because as I said in the other discussion higher values smagriscono lower fat, in fact, to the high, if you open the coffee machine in 3d, you realize that the values decrease significantly... then decrease the valiori if you want to fatten...

the value of gasoline at the limiter ? too high, a symptom that you are lean to maximum rpm... the well-known with the original machine is what?

ditto for injection at full load

the limelight from the heroes for enrichment and acceleration, I think so smagrisci well as in all 3 maps

butterfly-I know in copsa you rifersicono values. if ? the speed? opening and closing or something else... I don't toccherei and that's it.

air mass meter, salt too repentivamente as values... maybe ? the map of the speed? of the butterfly... not even toccherei

advances.-.. be the values go up and then make me think that at low speeds are drawn to have the coffee machine ir? ready and high are relaxed then you have to wrestle you... I would try the amcchina only touching on this map, and giving lower values of some point... if the car ? pi? ready means that you have to put down payments pi? pulled wisdom nothing... try to change maybe just the ones around 4000 rpm so try the machine and eventualmnete to note the changes

idem advance correction that should be the same thing in theory

torque limiter increases a p? the whole to not have the machine choked, but ? always one to try I would try with a 10% percentage.

injection flaw well as in percentage, while the advance in fixed values

the rev limiter leave it the original saw ? 7000

however, on gasoline, we must be careful, for me, right now I'd just change the advance up to 4000 to 5000 rpm to see how it goes... and then for the injection of the will only by controlling the lambda in a manner to control the fuel mixture.

if you turn thin ? one thing if you spin with advances too tight ? another... if it advances too fat as a result... do not anticipate ever so much. turn advance ? worse than turn lean.

if crackles very after the map ? symptom of mixture is lean and/or too early, and then not be happy with it... :-)

let me know how it goes.

I would do so.

[fabiovts88]

hello machinist we have the same car ? well I'm trying to learn how to map l car petrol .. sin ke, I can't see your file...

I wanted to understand all the values in theory you give negative both in advance that injection right?

[giannimini]

To give gasoline and early I guess. So to have a carburaione pi? fat and advance pi? ready

But since the map injection c'? advance damage increasing values to get the speed and the load cre? that:
To anticipate on this machine you are lower values than those disclosed in the table
? to fatten you give the higher values seen that at higher rpm, in theory, serve more? gasoline

At this point, I believe that it is the opposite of that recommended.

The higher values in advance diminuii in points and not percentage anticipate

Higher values are expressed as a percentage for the fat injection

You also have seen that the limiter ? to pi? 700
? the values in the table end up on the 6000?

Well from 6000 to climb the ecu takes the dawning of that law to 6000 then careful of those

If you need to anticipate or carburar to 6000 ecu light the same as the Alps up to the limiter

Sorry for the spelling errors but I write with the cell with the auto-correction :-) sorry again

[sergiot]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

[fabiovts88]

[sergiot]

your changes are correct, but:
ignition advance you moved very little, and it would be better to change, even at low loads
mixture you put on too much, to the point that you will lose power tap it a little, it should be already? well
the 2? the map of the fuel mixture should not be touched
well the limiter, rpm is you, for me they are too many.
maps pedal does not go down, also changing ? of entity? imperceptible

[giannimini]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

Hello Sergio, do you agree with me on the topic of that, by increasing the injection values on this map you get fat and not smagrisce as are convinced some and increasing the values in advance, you delay?




If you increase loads whether the values of the injection advance go up, don't you think that the aumetare of the loads and rpm the engine wants to turn the pi? fat and less pulled of advances?

Then if you increase the values of injection tallow, if increases in those early delay.

As you have done at least as you have written you have done just the opposite, now I April the map from the pc to see

[Driver]

comment on the mapping presented in the first post.
the comments are in the order in which you present as addresses
advances power: you have changed from the met? load up. the entity? ? acceptable but you would have had more? effectiveness is also increased to pi? low loads.
the change concerns the 2 maps the same, no correction advance changed.
mapping system: it's useless to change it
pedal mapping: I don't understand why? dec
mapping of torque: increased slightly, just enough, perhaps the only change that makes you feel something.
mapping of carburation: you have emaciated slightly, it does not hurt, but considers that the carburation of the original ? gi? good. rather, in this map, no point should be less than 80h.
mapping air flow butterfly : you do not need to touch it
????mapping of the fuel mixture?????: do not touch it
I don't see finishing touches to the rev limiter (maybe me ? escaped)
also, it seems to me that some of the mappings that are written in 8-bit-you've changed to a 16-bit
you have to fix something.
damage don't do, it's a bit of order we make? well

Thanks for the advice sergiot, tomorrow I fix the maps are wrong and you place a new file. I did a little bit of confusion with the maps!!! :rolleyes:

[fabiovts88]

then the pedal I have to give extra points nn less... cm injection twist sl l sett trip? x the rest do some degree you have low rpm.. Monday evening load the map made by a mapper in my area.. I known that about 6000 rpm it seems that nn has power..

[giannimini]

But then ep grease you take points? And to anticipate idem?
Wouldn't it be strange?

As ever, the values in both of the advance that the carburetion rise to an increase in engine load and rpm?
Guys if you take away points to the table injection skinny in my opinion,
Ditto for the advance if you take points off early...

Try changing the map for a time, according to me ? cos?

Then only by trying can you? understand what is...

[fabiovts88]

I in my well-known that in the carburation points to the increasing rpm decrease ditto for the advance

I made another under the advice that you gave me tell me what do you think if there are
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[sergiot]

If you increase loads whether the values of the injection advance go up, don't you think that the aumetare of the loads and rpm the engine wants to turn the pi? fat and less pulled of advances?



calm, you are doing take the "frenzy modificandi" bad disease that causes us to make changes where they are not needed.

attention that I do not answer to you using your tools (I think ecm) that I have.
when I give you the names of mappings and functions describe what they really are, I don't use those fancy names that use ecm ( but at least 20% of the righteous), and I don't know which axes ve presents them

and also always remember that the units and the mappings need to work well the engines, and not as it seems to understand " the motors serve to justify what ? written in the mappings"


I in my well-known that in the carburation points to the increasing rpm decrease ditto for the advance

in the case of this c2 we are talking about
advances: increasing the points you increase the advance
carburetion: " in the maps that you are modifying" to fatten you decrease the points.

[Driver]

Here are? my modified map. In this case, I think I've greased hair and anticipated a bit even at low engine speeds and correct the one that suggested sergiot. Correct me if I'm wrong. :rolleyes:

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[fabiovts88]

who has controlled my last mod? I wanted to know .. this thing to give values to the opposite applies only to the bosch me? cm do I know when and or not so?

[Driver]

I know that the rule applies to all of the bosch family M, ME, MD, MED, MEV, etc...

[fabiovts88]

ook good to know.. you have given a look at my map?

[Driver]

Unfortunately, I am in your situation and I still can't download the attachments!!! :(

[fabiovts88]

sin ... we are looking for opinions then :) :) let's see if we nailed it

[giannimini]

calm, you are doing take the "frenzy modificandi" bad disease that causes us to make changes where they are not needed.

attention that I do not answer to you using your tools (I think ecm) that I have.
when I give you the names of mappings and functions describe what they really are, I don't use those fancy names that use ecm ( but at least 20% of the righteous), and I don't know which axes ve presents them

and also always remember that the units and the mappings need to work well the engines, and not as it seems to understand " the motors serve to justify what ? written in the mappings"



in the case of this c2 we are talking about
advances: increasing the points you increase the advance
carburetion: " in the maps that you are modifying" to fatten you decrease the points.

Advance carburation? Not ? ignition advance spark plug one of the tables?

[sergiot]

I know that the rule applies to all of the bosch family M, ME, MD, MED, MEV, etc...
no, only valid for the me3!!!!!


Advance carburation? Not ? ignition advance spark plug one of the tables?

sorry missed the point after advance.
carburetion: ? another topic

[fabiovts88]

no, only valid for the me3!!!!!

therefore, only for this unit is the speech mentioned before !

sergiot you ... took a look at my last map? can you give me some info if this goes well?

[giannimini]

Just have the pc control willingly
Then the eye to increase the gain values in the map injection
? relax in the map advances the ignition

Correct if I'm wrong

However, bench? he has excellent conoscebze motor
With the ecu you have to be careful

If you don't have an afr, you can't ever see if you gain fat or smagrisci, to ear and difficult to see it

Eye to vary little at a time, especially the advances in and try and try again the continuous

[fabiovts88]

I am not a afr and not the law, not even in the diagnosis, how can I? it should be on the 14?

[giannimini]

Or put a obd Bluetooth that works with torque for android
Or wifi for the iPhone but the apps are paid
Or get a multimeter and read the voltage of the first lambda
Or a good diagnosis

Or an afr gauge that you buy on ebay to 60!euro

There are also the professional who will read from their lambda probes

The economic reading from the lambda to the low-voltage oroignalo but are not on a large scale, also called wideband

Do you ;-) with a multimeter ? the via ir? ecobomica seems to me that a high voltage is fat, lower lean

Talk about it with a preparatory search on the forum, you can find all

Your probe if I am not mistaken it works in 2 or 3 vols of the professional ones. At voltages more? high but read directly the value, not the voltage.

[fabiovts88]

[sergiot]

sergiot you ... took a look at my last map? can you give me some info if this goes well?

I answered you yesterday evening with the post no 7 to page 1


Here are? my modified map. In this case, I think I've greased hair and anticipated a bit even at low engine speeds and correct the one that suggested sergiot. Correct me if I'm wrong. :rolleyes:

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I saw your edit step2. you have received good suggestions, on how much time you could do something more? in areas that are not being changed.
for the fuel mixture, which counts have returned to the original, the one that you left him changed you don't need it, doesn't work.
maps the pedal in the right direction, but with attention to the maximum values of the map. you should never exceed the value of pi? high gi? written in the map ori. you are at risk of failure. the maximum value of the map corresponds to 100% of pi? just makes a mess and makes no sense.

[Driver]

OK, perfect then I do one more step!!! Thanks, thanks, thanks epr the advice!!! :)



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[sergiot]

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ok cos? pu? good to go. the effect on the guide will not be? striking but the changes are all in the right direction

[Driver]

[giannimini]

smagrendo and anticipating should be to beat the pi? in the head

[Driver]

On the turbo petrol I know that the advances and better not to touch them, and so I did. As for the injection, in theory, I removed and then greased but I don't know if it's the address of this ecu... the fact is that now is not beating more... bhooo better not to go too Off Topic to the maximum we talk about in the discussion that I lincato before!

[fabiovts88]

but if I give more gas to high rpm ... I feel a little sluggish on the rpm high.. again I have not uploaded my map posted here but I have one made by a preparer and the feel sluggish on a high rpm.. how do I do x to fix it? if one day I were to mount the cam, what should I move it ? advances and injection?

[giannimini]

at high rpm I think it is lackluster for the speech mixture, in fact, from 6000 to 7000 smagrisce if you notice in the map injection values must be decreasing, starting from the 123 coming to 106 and then to 6000 again becomes 128 and then smagrisce up to 7000-... you may try to put 105 as the value in such a way that it is homogeneous like the rest of the other... do you feel sluggish after 6000 poer case? if ? so ? why? missing fuel...

advances instead go up constants

advance correction at 5500 change value then enter in the normality? to 6000...

[fabiovts88]

thank you gianni , my car doesn't ? original meccanicalmente mount manifold 4-1 sporting central group n with kat 200 , the original terminal , filter, bmc cda with a front panel socket.and candles to the platinum

I have a doubt on the other control units advances give you 1 point = 1 degree of advance or is there some formula? for example, this 1punto = 0.75 degrees engine

[giannimini]

ok cos? pu? good to go. the effect on the guide will not be? striking but the changes are all in the right direction

sergio, in this way, fattened and relaxed advances. do you agree with me?

could have migliramenti you gaining weight provided that the moment is lean, but also anticipating don't you think?

[fabiovts88]

but I did not understand a thing which injection you have to touch? partial or full load?

[giannimini]

thank you gianni , my car doesn't ? original meccanicalmente mount manifold 4-1 sporting central group n with kat 200 , the original terminal , filter, bmc cda with a front panel socket.and candles to the platinum

I have a doubt on the other control units advances give you 1 point = 1 degree of advance or is there some formula? for example, this 1punto = 0.75 degrees engine

hi fabio, the speech of the advances do not know to tell you exactly, but if you don't deviate to much from the ones that you have in the map, you should not say you should not have problems.

for example, if at 6000 rpm, put a advance that you have to 5000 rpm, not sgasci the engine but you will have more? ready... for? if it advances too pu? perhaps the walls and you find yourself with the opposite effect... why? high-speed to have an engine with an easy-going advances helps to keep the pi? cool as temperatures and relaxed...

type if you put the limiter at 8000 to force things you will need to turn in advance with the pi? relaxed senn? mureresti before and there arriveresti never... or without a piston

I think so then gistamente to hear the opinions of someone else does not harm, but so far have seen that you do not hear anyone, maybe we are going for the right path... even why? ? almost obvious as thing :-)

anyway thanks nothing for me ? a pleasure to chat with voii, and to exchange opinions

[fabiovts88]

thank you gianni xke up to now you are the only one in the many forums that you have helped me to understand a lot of things on the maps petrol .. but now I would like to see what l injection should be touched only the partial or full load? because sergio has said that one does not need to touch it xke not working..

then I adjusted the pedal and given a few more to anticipate (+ = anticipate right) ??
injection, I have touched only the full load should be the right one.. so you tell me now

[sergiot]

sergio, in this way, fattened and relaxed advances. do you agree with me?

could have migliramenti you gaining weight provided that the moment is lean, but also anticipating don't you think?

sar? that I'm old, but I guess I'm still an engineer, what it means to "relax" the advance??????
with regard to grease the answer you date you with " if it is lean"!!!!!!!


at high rpm I think it is lackluster for the speech mixture, in fact, from 6000 to 7000 smagrisce if you notice in the map injection values must be decreasing, starting from the 123 coming to 106 and then to 6000 again becomes 128 and then smagrisce up to 7000-... you may try to put 105 as the value in such a way that it is homogeneous like the rest of the other... do you feel sluggish after 6000 poer case? if ? so ? why? missing fuel...

advances instead go up constants

advance correction at 5500 change value then enter in the normality? to 6000...

usually when a engine ? weak at a certain speed? ? why? lacking air , lacking gasoline.
you must always start from the concept that those who worked before you do the mapping wasn't stupid, and he had all the tools to check his work, that ye have not.
I repeat that the carburation of the original ? good, even if it bears small changes, doable for the purpose of study or practice.

in the maps beforehand, which changed not c'? no correction of advance ? an invention of your driver.
the map that changed are not corrections, are used as such.

regarding the leaning to 7000 today there about, then I will reply you?.


thank you gianni xke up to now you are the only one in the many forums that you have helped me to understand a lot of things on the maps petrol .. but now I would like to see what l injection should be touched only the partial or full load? because sergio has said that one does not need to touch it xke not working..

then I adjusted the pedal and given a few more to anticipate (+ = anticipate right) ??
injection, I have touched only the full load should be the right one.. so you tell me now

the fuel mixture ? defined by a single map, both at full load and in split. in the sense that with a single map define everything from the minimum rpm and load at maximum rpm and load.
the map zoned ? an invention of the ecm , in fact? need to another.
fabiovts88 the maps that you touched on are the right ones and in the right direction


at high rpm I think it is lackluster for the speech mixture, in fact, from 6000 to 7000 smagrisce if you notice in the map injection values must be decreasing, starting from the 123 coming to 106 and then to 6000 again becomes 128 and then smagrisce up to 7000-... you may try to put 105 as the value in such a way that it is homogeneous like the rest of the other... do you feel sluggish after 6000 poer case? if ? so ? why? missing fuel...

advances instead go up constants

advance correction at 5500 change value then enter in the normality? to 6000...

I think that you're watching another thing, the map of the fuel mixture (the real one, not the anomaly that you describe)

[giannimini]

Relax the advance means to me to delay it. ? a way of saying.
To have more? performance you must anticipate, therefore, to place a lower value.
If you put values in excess of the advance of the relax, delays sorry

At full load and zoned I'll say the same Word, it changes both the tables ;-)

The tables of the injection by reducing the values fattening and raising them smagrisci.

I can't see the map, but it will change the values on the basis of how it goes in the machine

;-)

[Driver]

the fuel mixture ? defined by a single map, both at full load and in split. in the sense that with a single map define everything from the minimum rpm and load at maximum rpm and load.
the map zoned ? an invention of the ecm , in fact? need to another.



At full load and zoned I'll say the same Word, it changes both the tables ;-)
;-)

[sergiot]

? exactly this is my indication

[giannimini]

Has ok ok, then change only injection at full load and the split that it serves another left for xom'? for now

However, I in my small way I try to help him, even why? sucuramente helps you say to each other, one thing you a another

Can you map the network drive and have there? that czechs without making a mess

Ecm does not ? to the top but unfortunately those who do not have other proganni have to settle

[fabiovts88]

so guys if I have not misunderstood the true map for the fuel mixture ? the full load right?

guys looking at the map is made by my mapper, I emaciated to a high rpm, what does that mean that the car should be less on high rpm? has emaciated 1 point I cn this map I have the problem that exceeded 6500 rpm seems to go what should I make you fat or lean more?

guys I put the maps
fabio rp ? one of the mapper
the other ? the one I made give me a tip

[giannimini]

If you feel like the jacket you might try to put on weight. The Cio? if you notice that up to 5000 you of the values and then to 6000 change drastically try to change the values to 6000 as they are up to 5000

If from 1000 to 5000 map tallow continues to put on weight even at 6000 what is the meaning of lean?

Even why? the values that you have 6000, you will find yourself up to the limiter, so that lean, you should grease

As soon as they are on the pc, I open the map that you posted and a look

[fabiovts88]

let me know gianni I know that smagrendo you have the best performance

[Driver]

let me know gianni I know that smagrendo you have the best performance

[fabiovts88]

in fact, in one of the mapper ? was smagrita of a point on the high rpm 6.000

[giannimini]

In fact, already? the original should be very lean and pull of advances

For best performance, you have the mixture right

Too lean is bad the machine on the bike 2t if you remember when toglievi the air filter it was empty, absurd, and changed the main jet to remember?

Also good on the car ? cos?, too fat and too skinny, bad performance
Carburation good, verging a bit on the skinny (and I mean a little) performance and fuel consumption and the best

If you don't read the lambda, you can't see it ever

You could see the candles but not ? a scooter, usually if they are white you're skinny, hazelnut ok and dark brown grease.

But to try you should turn off the machine at the maximum speed almost see that you seem dull, if you feel the test I would not do that ever.

With the Vespone I do this but with the car not me I would risk never haha

Good luck ;-)

Consider that if the power off at the minimum read the idle mixture. Cos? via

[fabiovts88]

I do not know the car is fine but I think that, because of the original terminal caps a little on the high regimes can be?

[sergiot]

guys I put the maps
fabio rp ? one of the mapper
the other ? the one I made give me a tip

the map step 3 yesterday it was made better. the step 2 that you entered today contains the inaccuracies that yesterday you were taken away.
the map fabio rp contains inaccuracies on the map the pedal, as advance ? gone already? heavy with the changes to +8 points!!!, has done less than you in the maps of the pair, nothing on the fuel mixture
question: the map fabio.rp the you are already? put in the car? you do not have of the shells ???

[fabiovts88]

is the map rp ? already on no it seems not but I think that I have a wall past the 6200 rpm it seems not to have the most shooting! why? for down payments? as carburation, I have noticed that he has emaciated to a point towards the end

I nontato I also ? went down heavy with the advances.. I would not like for that!

[sergiot]

from here, you can't? say, but the change does work desperate to control detonation, that takes advance and you may also have the opposite effect to the desired.
the control detonation pu? also remove 12? of advance if you do piss off. you have to go there delicate.

this car ? sucked .?? what are the engine rpm to be the maximum power? see the real documents.

[fabiovts88]

you ? sucked in and assemble manifolds, sports 4-1 central with 200 cells in the original terminal, and the filter is a bmc cda and spark plugs are platinum.. maximum power it seems to me the original maybe 6500

if I to that map down with all the advances 5 maximum points to have a higher yield?

[sergiot]

put the step3 of yesterday

[fabiovts88]

then I have done so with the advances in the lowest ... according to you, as it will? with the one I have on are at risk of mechanical failure?

I have now read your mex ... say that it's better to step 3 yesterday that this is made by the mapper? how do you see the one you just made with advances more bass? and that of the mapper can be me cause breakage?

[Driver]

I have now read your mex ... say that it's better to step 3 yesterday that this is made by the mapper? how do you see the one you just made with advances more bass? and that of the mapper can be me cause breakage?

[fabiovts88]

not that I don't feel beats weird, but no I would what if ? too early will not go as it should go, embedding so at high rpm , my concern ? avoid breakages with these advances.. what do you say?

[sergiot]

? even better the step 3

[fabiovts88]

then with my step 3 will be definitely better than the one made by the mapper?

[sergiot]

are you pi? safe and pu? be that go even better.
but as I said yesterday, don't expect miracles

[fabiovts88]

I would like to split that cn cho on now.. you can't put it on the welcome to the program of my friend and me responding in writing

[Driver]

[fabiovts88]

my friend is with the cock, v48 ke v52 we write locked via obd x now the only one that is successful, and with the kess v2 original

[Driver]

[cinqueturbo]

my friend is with the cock, v48 ke v52 we write locked via obd x now the only one that is successful, and with the kess v2 original

Do you know s? it was in the Can-Bus or K-Line?

[fabiovts88]

I figured this is my experience then I have heard of others that with the clone of the cock, the write-in obd and successful.

[cinqueturbo]

A read in Boot Mode and is always recommended ST10F275 s? I'm not wrong..

[fabiovts88]

I know that l have read on the can bus and tried to write in the can then I don't know xke?

[fabiovts88]

the fact ? that the write successfully, but then once you go to turn it on not most and not makes you more rewrite the original file

[cinqueturbo]

the fact ? that the write successfully, but then once you go to turn it on not most and not makes you more rewrite the original file

It seems to me, and I say (it seems) a checksum problem from the symptoms to me is this doubt..

[fabiovts88]

me have told in so many pero who gave me the map made for three times was a well-known trainer is finished also on the process.. the car when you turned the key, made a noise of type tac tac that seemed to be coming from the throttle

guys I made another taking a cue from that of matthew smagrendola a while where I thought it should be
so you tell me

another thing to calculate the degrees of the ecu the correct calculation ? 0.75x1punto in the table? if this were the case in the map of my mapper, I will find myself with 6 degrees of advance at 6000 rpm

I did also test via obd with the torque and tells me ke the butterfly opens up to 75%, and this means that in the table the ecm to the load of the advances would be the opening of the butterfly? if it was so I would have at 7,400 rpm, about 5.25 degrees of advance and pear in table injection I would have the fuel mixture golds for the way that my mapper to correct 83 load in then.. tell me if I'm wrong

[sergiot]

another thing to calculate the degrees of the ecu the correct calculation ? 0.75x1punto in the table? if this were the case in the map of my mapper, I will find myself with 6 degrees of advance at 6000 rpm
reading the mapping of the original 27? of advance, that of the trainer 33? in advance.
objectively, it seems to me too much.
and then it seems like a different error: the map ? been written to 16 bit instead of 8 bit

[sergiot]

guys I made another taking a cue from that of matthew smagrendola a while where I thought it should be
so you tell me

this one ? good, only some inaccuracy on the fuel mixture, but a little thing. be careful when you move the mouse on the screen.

[fabiovts88]

sergio, but the calculation of advance payments and the one written on 0.75 x 1 point table? then I would like to know the story of the butterfly in the obd opens up to 75% this cs means that in the table, load the part over 75 nn serves? I can not understand

[sergiot]

sergio, but the calculation of advance payments and the one written on 0.75 x 1 point table? then I would like to know the story of the butterfly in the obd opens up to 75% this cs means that in the table, load the part over 75 nn serves? I can not understand

the calculation of the advance ? done with that formula of 0.75? x the point
the speech of the butterfly I don't understand what you mean. butterfly in the obd????? table load????

[fabiovts88]

[sergiot]

it means that some part of c'? a limiter of the butterfly.
I have gi? asked how many horsepower the car has, and how many laps

[fabiovts88]

the original 122 at 6500 rpm

[sergiot]

no and that power can not be a limiter of the butterfly.
you must also wonder about the bont? of the measure.

[fabiovts88]

but my opinion on the table of the ecm that more than 75% did not make sense to change ? right?

the maximum value here ? 64481 can this be the limiter of a butterfly? modifying it reaches max to 65550

[sergiot]

when you edit, you use the whole table, that 75% ? only indicative, technically ? another thing.
are the problems generated by the driver with approximate denitions, which sometimes induce a culture that is wrong in those who use them without being an expert.


the maximum value here ? 64481 can this be the limiter of a butterfly? modifying it reaches max to 65550

I don't understand what ? this table. the mandala as a graphic with the address

[fabiovts88]

it was just to see if it corresponded to the throttle opening 75% of the load.. but not ? so


I don't understand what ? this table. the mandala as a graphic with the address
I don't know how to get it to the chart , that I do the screen in 2d?

address 00429e to 0042a8

[sergiot]

quiet has nothing to do with

[fabiovts88]

ok thanks-so my problem is now that the high rpm seems to be hiding a bit may be because of the original terminal? seen that from the map ? was smagrita a little ...

[leandro89]

I would like to bring to your notice that there is a function in the forum, which is called multi-quotes to use ? simple, this thread was 11 pages, and now ? been reduced to 9 why? I combined all the messages, I also found two and three messages of the same user-written every few seconds, for anyone who reads ? a total chaos, then when we write we put a bit more effort. thanks

[fabiovts88]

guys I have a little problem , after scannata well , I stopped ? l I left it a little at a minimum ? I have noticed that it is about 1.000 rpm until I give it a colpettino gas and it settles at 800/850 rpm, what can be sucking in air somewhere?

[Driver]

But if after that the shots quite a bit, and then stay to the minimum ? normal for a minute can spin a bit more? high rpm but then has to go back already? after a little bit. Not ? that you had the weather turned on?

[fabiovts88]

no climate on .. after a while we go back down by itself.. if not I do one or two strokes of a gas and riassesta..may be that is sucking in air from somewhere ?

[Driver]

Mmm no nn I think. If you just after the shots ? normal, or after a use schemes medium to high when the ports to a minimum, turn a bit more? high then returns to normal. But you changed the map and have you noticed this problem or has it always done this??

[fabiovts88]

I can't change the map xke I don't have the tools x to do it. this ? the map of the mapper

[Driver]

Then she always did? Or you got it just now?:confused:

[fabiovts88]

if I remember correctly, l I have is when I put on the map.. but I would not like to be wrong

[sergiot]

if I remember correctly, l I have is when I put on the map.. but I would not like to be wrong

as there is something objectionable in the map, there are no changes that will cause this problem.
you should not worry, ? quite normal and can? depend on the temperatures of the oil are high after a pull.
but ? a natural thing, you don't have to look for failures.

[Driver]

as there is something objectionable in the map, there are no changes that will cause this problem.
you should not worry, ? quite normal and can? depend on the temperatures of the oil are high after a pull.
but ? a natural thing, you don't have to look for failures.

[fabiovts88]

ok thanks guys :)

guys I have a question to ask you!
if I were to mount the cam sports with the road surface up how should I behave with the advances in the map? seen that already have been changed?

[sergiot]

you may want to consider some changes to the fuel mixture, but on the advance not to make other changes

[fabiovts88]

then l advance I would leave it as is ? now? cm carburation how should I behave smagrisco or fattening?

[sergiot]

grease or decrease depends on the new cams that you want to mount, and their timing.
easy that in an area you will need to lean on another you'll need to gain weight. but without information you can not? predict the where and the how.

[fabiovts88]

do you want to know the lift and the original degrees and of those sports?

[sergiot]

why? promise you there? that you can? do??
if you have this information comunicale.
need to know:
raised, the amplitude in degrees and setting the valve timing on both cams, the original and the new one.
also the car has the mass air flow sensor or pressure sensor?

[fabiovts88]

I didn't understand the first part of your message what I promised? anyway, after all the parameters of the cams cmq has the pressure sensor

hello I would like to know a piece of information with the airbox with panel bmc carburation I have to grease or lean? who can give me a hand?

no one knows how to help me?

[sergiot]

carburation is not to be touched.

[fabiovts88]

Hello I would like to know since maybe effettuero this change.. if trasmormo my car from naturally aspirated to turbo how do I deal with the last quest with the electronics?without mounting a fully reprogrammable?

[sergiot]

if the car original ? sucked, can't handle a turbo with an electronic system that does not provide for. in the ecu, the functions do not exist.
in these cases, the turbo you can? put but is controlled by the old way with the mechanical adjustments fixed.
the alternative ? the one that you already have? indicated, a new and dedicated. only a matter of costs.....

[fabiovts88]

As I thought, thanks sergiot

[fabiovts88]

I made another map for my c2 vts how do you think?

[fabiovts88]

Can anyone tell me if and done well? as abticipi I gave him a little at high rpm if no walls and nn ... what do you think