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Hello all, I also own an mpps v13-v12 I don't remember well, that, from what I have read is used to read the whole of the marelli control unit of my bike.
As a first step, if at all ? possible, and does not require a lot of knowledge, I would like to learn how to change the welcome message which is displayed on the instrument panel. This message I believe that it is connected to the ECU, why? when upgraded exhaust Termignoni, which have supplied the ECU, the message on the picture ? changed. In this regard, I wanted to understand qualkosina in pi?.
If c'? any help or good document I can read to start to understand something, reading, writing, cutting files, that would be great!
Thanks a lot in advance to all.
Good job.
? you can read the map and find the welcome message that you have now.
Greetings
Thank you, sar? the first thing you do?, the cio? read my detailed Ducati Performance and share it with you!
While starting to read, I was looking for any map for hyper to try to understand something, type the sectors in which it resides, the written...
But at the moment I do not have the permission to download it from the forum and in turn I have found.
? you can read the map and find the welcome message that you have now.
Greetings
maximumwarp
26-02-2014, 17:01
While starting to read, I was looking for any map for hyper to try to understand something, type the sectors in which it resides, the written...
Whereas, I am not an expert, to search for and edit the writing, I know that you can use a hex editor to open and explore the original file (type HxD)? if you go to edit you have to be careful to make sure that the new file has the same size as the original (should be 320 KB), and also, you should be careful about the checksum!
Thanks, I wanted to say, how well does the mpps for the writing and the checksum, I read on the net that at least for the ECU ducati should not be a problem, but I would like your opinions!
I hope over the weekend to be able to read my ECU DP and start spulciarla to see where is this written!
Whereas, I am not an expert, to search for and edit the writing, I know that you can use a hex editor to open and explore the original file (type HxD)? if you go to edit you have to be careful to make sure that the new file has the same size as the original (should be 320 KB), and also, you should be careful about the checksum!
maurof650
27-02-2014, 09:06
If you only read, and then want to rewrite the map does not need to do any checksum. The sw below, you say? to do so, but there are problems.
In the meantime, read the file, but be careful because? it takes about more than 15 minutes, to make the tour or, if you read it on the bike, make sure to have sufficient autonomy of stability? and charge the battery.
Damage not can do if during the process of reading the map, if you are pressing the voltage in the middle of the reading, the writing, however, if they can not do)? not ? pleasant and ? always better to avoid.
For the writing, with files from 320Kb read with MPPS, looking around at the address 4C130. Maximum 15 digits... I am the checksum on the Marelli/Ducati do I fix this, and no I have never had any problems. We do not even try to do without, not to risk even to try!!!
M999
maurof650
28-02-2014, 17:09
Obviously make the cks all the times that you edit a map? I said that ? need to do the cks in the cases in which you read a map by a control unit, and then write on another unit.
maximumwarp
28-02-2014, 18:38
For the writing, with files from 320Kb read with MPPS, looking around at the address 4C130. Maximum 15 digits... I am the checksum on the Marelli/Ducati do I fix this, and no I have never had any problems. We do not even try to do without, not to risk even to try!!!
M999
As you need to do to check and fix the checksum?
Obviously make the cks all the times that you edit a map? I said that ? need to do the cks in the cases in which you read a map by a control unit, and then write on another unit.
Clearly, if I read and write a particular file is not needed, if I change fix the checksum.
M999
Thanks to all for your answers! So if I understand correctly, to the modification that for now I want to take the steps are:
1) I Read the ecu with MPPS, son-in-law a file from 320kb that avr? bin file extension or ori?
2) with an editor type HxD or do I have to use titanium?, I'm looking for the address 4C130 and I can change the maximum 15cifre, save the modified file, without worrying about the size? Or will stay? of 320?
3) the mark with MPPS doing to correct the soft, if necessary, the checksum?
A question: I read that the files 320 are to be cut, at 304, for what reason? Also I have to cut to offset 0x3fff
They are definitely confused!!!
Thanks
ducati83
01-03-2014, 14:10
the cuts to 304kb to do so, to identify the titanium but then to be able to flash it you have to bring back to 320kb....
Unfortunately, I still haven't read the ecu of my ducati to understand how to proceed in changing the welcome message.
As soon as I had half a day of time, I am dedicated to the reading test, but I encountered a problem exposed in the post (https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?5983-Prima-Lettura-Errore-%28tipo-improprio-upload%29) of this section.
Now I wanted to ask you, to tell me about this project a p? the study, hoping to solve with the error of the MPPS, if I find a file for the ducati hypermotard, I start to open it to figure out where to go to change with your help! What do you think, can we do it?
Thanks a lot!!
There remains the problem of checksum of which we have spoken before. With instrumentation/SW drivers there are problems with trinkets chinese or SW c---i I could not tell you.
M999
I was able to read my Ecu, as suggested in the other post from m999, I got a file from 320kb, Now the cutting for it to become readable by ecm titanium, after which? I have to go hunting for the welcome message!
I have written the above where to find it, with a player hexadecimal you will notice immediately: ? written in clear and readable.
M999
Right, for the mess welcome nn c'? you need to cut the file! I read the file 320 with hxd and I found the mess to the address that I have suggested! I would like to be sure of the positions on which you can write the new message, up to a Max of 15 digits!
If ? necessary I can post the file to check it with you?
Then I would cut it to understand how it works ecm titaniun.
Thanks again!
I think I've found the 15 positions for the welcome message, I don't know if they are valid for all the ecu ducati with this function, in my cas oper the Hypermotard positions are 4C133 to 4C141.
For editing I just use the simple HxD?
After editing the message, how do I proceed to write, and the control of the cecksum?
For testing I have also made the cut of the file and tried to read with ecm titanium, which recognizes, I think, why? he saw the driver of the motorcycle in the auto.
I would be pi? sure if an expert can take a look at the file that is read by 320kb, cos? to be sure that there were no problems in reading or another.
Thanks again
If not put the file difficult that we can have a look, how did you read it (post it in a special section dedicated to the original files) ;)
For writing, you can proceed directly to the MPPS, once the correct checksum. For the correction of the latter, if you don't have the instrumentation/SW original you I have already? that said... someone says that for Ducati it does not serve to correct that, I repeat, I do not even try to risk it. Maybe I'm wrong and I make a step too, but the thing is not a burden to me n? cost me nothing :cool:
M999
File posted File Ducati Hypermotard 1100 ECU DP 2-2 (https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?6003-Ducati-Hypermotard-1100-ECU-Ducati-Performance-Scarico-2-2&p=86939#post86939)
I like the equipment I the only mpps v12, and I remember the soft told me to correct the cecksum in the case of writing to the ecu, but I still have not aprestato to writing after the mod of the welcome message.
From what I read above, if I read and write the same file would not be necessary to correct the cks, but after the mod of the welcome message?
In practice, when you rewrite the file to the mpps I ask? check the cecksum and must? give confirmation?
I await your confirmation on the integrity? file.
Thanks a lot
If not put the file difficult that we can have a look, how did you read it (post it in a special section dedicated to the original files) ;)
For writing, you can proceed directly to the MPPS, once the correct checksum. For the correction of the latter, if you don't have the instrumentation/SW original you I have already? that said... someone says that for Ducati it does not serve to correct that, I repeat, I do not even try to risk it. Maybe I'm wrong and I make a step too, but the thing is not a burden to me n? cost me nothing :cool:
M999
maurof650
19-03-2014, 14:49
Copy the modified file and the experience alone was recalculated the cks.
That goes wrong, if the bike does not re-enter the initial file and everything is back as before.
Thanks Mauro, sar? the same mpps to ask me to correct the the cks or do I have to click on the button checksum before writing?
Copy the modified file and the experience alone was recalculated the cks.
That goes wrong, if the bike does not re-enter the initial file and everything is back as before.
maurof650
19-03-2014, 15:46
Thanks Mauro, sar? the same mpps to ask me to correct the the cks or do I have to click on the button checksum before writing?
do "write", then select the map file 320 kb (careful not to make mistakes with the map 304) and the "Ok".
The works cks on the bike, with the MPPS, it does not work then don't pay any attention to the message of MPPS.
That goes wrong, if the bike will not start, we rewrite the file that you had read before this change, and everything is back as before.
Thanks again, I try to the pi? soon and I will keep you updated!
Have you given a look to the fie, which I read with mpps? I wanted to be sure that the file origianle it had been read correctly.
do "write", then select the map file 320 kb (careful not to make mistakes with the map 304) and the "Ok".
The works cks on the bike, with the MPPS, it does not work then don't pay any attention to the message of MPPS.
That goes wrong, if the bike will not start, we rewrite the file that you had read before this change, and everything is back as before.
ducati83
19-03-2014, 16:17
you should not have any problems with the chk, but do not despair try with this...
I still have no permission to upload!
At the time I didn't have problems, why? I still have not come across in the writing.
But if it were possible, I would like to be able to try this concealer checksum!
you should not have any problems with the chk, but do not despair try with this...
ducati83
19-03-2014, 17:11
unfortunately, the wait to download...
maurof650
19-03-2014, 17:26
Dirdan, now that we have come to the 28th? message on the subject ? now is the time to write the map that you have modified without cks recalculated.
Let us know :)
The map that you have read, anyway ? OK.
M999
Perfect! Thanks a lot, now proceder? with pi? security!!!
The map that you have read, anyway ? OK.
M999
ducati83
20-03-2014, 12:00
if you have problems email the file and let us help you with chk!
After the message edit with HxD, I carried out the reduction of the file 304kb to try it with the ECM, as I did for the original one which was recognized automatically with the appropriate driver from ECM Titanium, the mod is not recognized automatically, the what ? normal? Or in the modification of the message, I made mistakes?
if you have problems email the file and let us help you with chk!
legendaryslave
20-03-2014, 19:56
After the message edit with HxD, I carried out the reduction of the file 304kb to try it with the ECM, as I did for the original one which was recognized automatically with the appropriate driver from ECM Titanium, the mod is not recognized automatically, the what ? normal? Or in the modification of the message, I made mistakes?
? normal as you move a bit is not more recognized by the tita
Then after editing it I have to load the driver manually? Can I load the same driver that Titanium has read automatically on the original file?
Thanks
legendaryslave
20-03-2014, 23:48
Then after editing it I have to load the driver manually? Can I load the same driver that Titanium has read automatically on the original file?
Thanks
yes and yes to both questions
Will update on the success of the programming of the welcome message!
After the mod, as explained in the discussion, I am writing leaving all of the sw with the default settings, and gave me an error, and there is a voice to check the chk before writing, I've made the control of chk by mpps and corrected a sector, after which? I raised again the writing and voil? 20sec about made the cancellation and rewrite it correctly!
Again, I thank you for the help given! I hope to continue to learn new things! Especially on the editing of the map!
maurof650
24-03-2014, 18:58
I don't understand how did you correct the cks with the MMPS; at least for the MPPS (made in china) I have not found that to correct the cks of the Ducati motorcycle.
ducati83
24-03-2014, 19:47
After the message edit with HxD, I carried out the reduction of the file 304kb to try it with the ECM, as I did for the original one which was recognized automatically with the appropriate driver from ECM Titanium, the mod is not recognized automatically, the what ? normal? Or in the modification of the message, I made mistakes?
I meant the modified file, the ori do not c'? need to fix the chk....anyway with mpps I have not,at least I have a chance? to correct it....
When the mpps returned me an error, I clicked on fix the checksum, I asked for the original file and then the amended and reported me that ? been corrected in 1 area. After which? I repeated the flash, by selecting the file that was just generated by the mpps ? match the phase of writing, time 20-25sec the process ? finished! I turn off the picture, that took me back three lines "---", then on again, and the mess of welcome was changed, the bike ? the game regularly!
Mauro, according to you, this mpps should not just generami the correct file?
I don't understand how did you correct the cks with the MMPS; at least for the MPPS (made in china) I have not found that to correct the cks of the Ducati motorcycle.
Can I his MPPS have a SW maybe more? up-to-date... well!! I would say that you can't certainly complain of the thing ;) !!
M999
If the sw that I use pu? serve to carry out tests of the functioning I can share with you, a forum allowing!
Can I his MPPS have a SW maybe more? up-to-date... well!! I would say that you can't certainly complain of the thing ;) !!
M999
maurof650
25-03-2014, 09:19
Mauro, according to you, this mpps should not just generami the correct file?
I struggle to understand what you mean and what you have done. Try to be more? clear.
- my MPPS reads and writes correctly, but it is not the cks; your the ago?
- you have to read the file with MPPS then you have changed the startup message; and with what sw;
- have you written to the map file with MPPS, but it gave you an error; as you correct?
hello
I'm sorry if I was not clear! I try to describe all of the steps taken.
Having the files to 320kb just read, I changed the welcome message from the hex with the HxD, and save.
Ready for programming, I connect mpps to the bike, launch the soft and with all the default settings and the bike selected as read, I do first IDECU, which is read, and then Write. At this point, the mpps, before starting the erase, and then write, I issue an error and invites me always to contact via **** support.
I will make an attempt to reciprocate the model of the bike and I, this time, the hyper 1100 (the cio? my role model), re-writing and re-error.
At this point, before I disconnect everything and ask you the question, I put the bike on a hypermotard 1100S, and I clicked on the key chk of the mpps, the software asked me before the original file, and I loaded the bed, and then he asked me the modified file, and I loaded the one that is saved with the HxD with the welcome message changed. The mpps generated me a new file, I assume with the modified checksum, cos? I repeated the scripture with this last file, and ? come to a good end without any error, time 20-25sec and the ecu ? been rescheduled!
I hope I was clear in all my steps, now I would like to know from you how it behaves when you click on the button chk of mpps? Not asking you for ori and mod to correct the checksum?
Proof of what has been done:
Original message: HYPER RACING
http://youtu.be/-LB7hOkEsIU
Message MODIFIED: DIRDAN HYPER
http://youtu.be/qfpwwBLxFmQ
maurof650
25-03-2014, 19:30
Very clear; this procedure I had heard it only in one occasion, but I haven't ever given very much the case just because? ? was an isolated case.
If you attach the two files that you used (the ori and the modified first of the cks) I try with one of my ECU "guinea pig) and I'll tell you what happens.
The I enclose in this discussion?
maurof650
25-03-2014, 20:41
The original one, which ? been verified and you have already? posted in the other thread, then do not attach; and the modified one with the HxD (without cks), as a file "tutorial", and by correct, I think that it is better to attach it here, unless other directions of the moderators.
Here is the modified file with HxD:
7458
Mauro how would you try, just for curiosity?, in serial with the mpps or at the bench with the other equipment?
Very clear; this procedure I had heard it only in one occasion, but I haven't ever given very much the case just because? ? was an isolated case.
If you attach the two files that you used (the ori and the modified first of the cks) I try with one of my ECU "guinea pig) and I'll tell you what happens.
The original one, which ? been verified and you have already? posted in the other thread, then do not attach; and the modified one with the HxD (without cks), as a file "tutorial", and by correct, I think that it is better to attach it here, unless other directions of the moderators.
I will add that I noticed that by making the correction of the checksum of the modified file with HxD, via chk corrector and comparing it with the one generatomi from mpps, are the same. So I think that the mpps something correct!
maurof650
26-03-2014, 13:28
I try with mpps12 with a link to the tour.
Let me know what result you get!
Above all, I would like to understand how to connect the ECU via mpps to the tour and how do you test it?
Thanks
To connect it to the tour, or go to the wires connected to the pins of the control unit (positive, positive, key, K-line and mass), or use an old ecu connector eradicated and adapted...
M999
Mauro, you're able to do the bench test to verify if the mpps corrects the checksum?
I try with mpps12 with a link to the tour.
ducati83
28-03-2015, 18:44
riesumo this post to ask the people that are informed, but the message on the multistrada 1000 you can? also change? I tried the file but I have not found anything
thanks
On the multistrada c'? the welcome message as for the hyper? Maybe they'll change their addresses for the message!
ducati83
29-03-2015, 18:52
I do not know if ? a true ? your message, but turn it on and exit the written 1000 in a big way,for the 620, obviously, exit 620, and under the message the mts eu, wrote the first case and the second in upper case, I believe that this is the message.
I tried to do a search on the file of a multi 1000 but nada I have not found it written on the mts, in the 1000......someone has info? are in the ecu or directly in the framework? for 749-999 how and where they are?
I searched the net a file mts1000 to look at the addresses, but not being sure of their trustworthiness? I retraced the same route that they took to the hyper, the cio? use TunerPro with the XDF file relative to the bike. Through TunerPro you ? the possibility? to see the maps as ECM, but also has the management of the Dashboard Text.
Opening the XDF for the MTS1000 I have not found this to be a possibility, so I think that the message resides in the dashboard.
maurof650
27-05-2015, 23:05
Mauro, you're able to do the bench test to verify if the mpps corrects the checksum?
I'm sorry if I answer only now but I had missed the question...........*****o no, I have not tried.
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