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ciullo.eugenio
24-01-2014, 20:34
Guys but on power units, the sw can you? change maybe putting one another?
for example... on my Big Point (or crying is not understood well) I have a Marelli Hardware Number: IAW5SFHW300
Marelli Software Number: 0813L45 and I would like to put the software of the IAW5SFHW300 with software 2103L65...
With what and how you read the ste units?
With mpps v12 you can? at least write the obd?
I've read that are sent in the recovery, but ... are sent in recovery and after connected drive and read from the obd? or all over-the-counter type with the fgtech v53 or similar? give me clarification about?...
Thank you in advance...
these operations via the obd does not make
on some ecu can you? also change the sw through a complete rewrite in the bdm , but you must first be sure that the software is compatible with your hardware.
since this information is not so? spread ? a good rule that in every electronic control unit will re-introduce the original sw.
there are lists in the house of the builders where ? indicated for a certain hw hw control unit such as the sw it can? host continuing to operate.
in general, it is necessary to consider that the sw is used to switch the motor but also to control the hw of the same unit, then ? it is linked in an indissoluble way.
changing the sw usually do not do damage, only the control unit does not work on the pi? as you would expect.
you restore everything by reprogramming the sw original, complete.
ciullo.eugenio
24-01-2014, 21:12
having a file ori of this unit, and by remapping all through ecm titanium:
1) can I write the file processed with mpps v12 via obd??
p.s. mpps v12 allows me (I've seen it in men?) go to options read and c'? a voice where it appears complete(kline):
2) for the absurd, I could use this programmer to read to tour?
if you read with mpps, you have to write with mpps
if you read in the bdm and you want to write with mpps need to split the file based on the car type, the multijet read in bdm, the file you get from 2 mb if you want to write with mpps need to cut it from 1 mb
mpps law a part of the flash
bdm reads the entire
carlo abarth
24-01-2014, 21:45
zullo is talking about a gasoline!!!!!
carlo abarth
24-01-2014, 21:47
I and my ecu do I do with the piasini!!! so I go to god!!!
ciullo.eugenio
24-01-2014, 21:53
zullo has said very well, he was just using the example of carlo ;)
I in this case, I can't read, why? my interface does not allow me to read this ecu, maybe I should put the resistor to get it to the recovery/modeb ? I have not tried, but before doing so I would like a pattern, a guide... someone who tells me how I have to do and if you can? do... only cos? to talk about it, I can not figure out how to do it,
then I would like to understand understand if I find a file ori from 448kb can I change it from the ecm, and write it in the following with mpps? what? the procedure?
I like the instrumentation, I have only mpps v12... on these ecu with mpps v12 c'? chance? to move in any way, at least in writing?...
I thought I was the multijet carlo sorry :confused:
carlo abarth
24-01-2014, 22:02
I only bench with piasini putting in the boot with the strength|!!!expect someone if made in the serial!!
zullo has said very well, he was just using the example of carlo ;)
I in this case, I can't read, why? my interface does not allow me to read this ecu, maybe I should put the resistor to get it to the recovery/modeb ? I have not tried, but before doing so I would like a pattern, a guide... someone who tells me how I have to do and if you can? do... only cos? to talk about it, I can not figure out how to do it,
then I would like to understand understand if I find a file ori from 448kb can I change it from the ecm, and write it in the following with mpps? what? the procedure?
I like the instrumentation, I have only mpps v12... on these ecu with mpps v12 c'? chance? to move in any way, at least in writing?...
ciullo.eugenio
24-01-2014, 22:04
no zullo ahahahah :D miii confunsione ahahahha :D ? grande punto 1.2 petrol 65 hp with:
Fiat Hardware Number: 51780240
Marelli Hardware Number: IAW5SFHW300
Marelli Software Number: 0813L45
Fiat Identifacation Number: 5SF3M1
Fiat Iso Code: 0D07D504C2
in short... what we all know as 5sf3.m1 hw300 :) I would like to map it but I am having difficulty? not for mapping but for reading and writing... :)
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 08:36
I can confirm if mpps v12 you can at least write it?
cinqueturbo
25-01-2014, 11:20
I can confirm if mpps v12 you can at least write it?
You Mpps writes it, but you can't write another SW..
Mpps writes only a portion of the file not the entire...
Then after writing see the flashing engine failure, normal,
do warm up the engine, and make three lunges at limiter and spegnei...
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 11:33
??? sorry... I did not understand :(
in what sense is it off? x?D I did not understand if it was ironic, I'm sorry xD
if you follow it to the letter, after this procedure the engine is switched on? not ? that fund?
cinqueturbo
25-01-2014, 11:42
??? sorry... I did not understand :(
in what sense is it off? x?D I did not understand if it was ironic, I'm sorry xD
if you follow it to the letter, after this procedure the engine is switched on? not ? that fund?
Wait a minute you have to work on a IAW5SFHW300, I was convinced that it was a IAW59F..
I can confirm if mpps v12 you can at least write it?
But you have failed to read from serial port?
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 11:46
you ? a 5SF3.M1... then I did not understand one other thing, the program asks me to calculate the checksum <- you give me insights about it?
cinqueturbo
25-01-2014, 11:49
you ? a 5SF3.M1... then I did not understand one other thing, the program asks me to calculate the checksum <- you give me insights about it?
you're running too.. better explained in that phase? in the process of writing?
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 11:50
no, I was not able to read it in no way possess only mpps v12, and I do not read apparently
so maybe even if I can find a file ori, I would like to know if once mapped (using ecm titanium) if I can at least write it with this interface since you don't want to know, read...
another question, if I send in the boot is the control unit, connected drive, and connecting mpps on the obd can be read?
to write can I write it so? quietly or do I have to send in the boot? by obd you can do these 5SF3 say to you, at least write them...???
motorsport
25-01-2014, 11:52
Be careful on the screen of the sw indicates whether cks calculates it automatically or not,if it calculates it automatically you are affixed, or do you must do to part with another program!!
cinqueturbo
25-01-2014, 11:59
no, I was not able to read it in no way possess only mpps v12, and I do not read apparently
so maybe even if I can find a file ori, I would like to know if once mapped (using ecm titanium) if I can at least write it with this interface since you don't want to know, read...
another question, if I send in the boot is the control unit, connected drive, and connecting mpps on the obd can be read?
to write can I write it so? quietly or do I have to send in the boot? by obd you can do these 5SF3 say to you, at least write them...???
you're going out of the way..
then put in the boot this ECU you have to solder the resistors to the internal and feed the ECU on the bench not on the car,
with mpps can be read in boot but however, you have to connect to the pins of the ECU and food both.
it is not difficult but you just have to ingeniare all on the bench with power supply and connections on the ECU...
carlo abarth
25-01-2014, 12:01
do not lay hands on it if not inkiodi!!! buy piasini and dedicated to the ecu..with cock-v48-51-53 I failed ..with piasini go quiet, you can do all the tests that you want a time that you read..!!!!
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 12:30
the procedure ? this physically: I take mpps I connect it to the obd of the vehicle, connect the usb to the pc and start the program by selecting the vehicle model and the version of the ecu
if I try to read I f? not even press the read button why? appears grey
if I try to write tells me to correct the checksum before starting the procedure, and sends me to take a dll file that I have not...
I tried to calcolarmi the checksum using ecm titanium, taking a gold of a other 5sf3.m1 with sw is different, I know how to calculate the checksum, but not s? how to create the dll that is compatible with the sw of the mpps
to get it to boot I can use the same scheme used for the cock?
from the tour as mpps has taken obd2 interface I have to take the obd and put a wire to kline and send it on to the unit and, of course, share the gnd and 12v??
edit. to make it to the tour... as a power supply can I use a power supply for pc 12v 19A?
msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2014, 16:56
without offense, we are here to share opinions and help those who know less, in the limits of the possible, but if one does not understand electricity and tap a wire current, what happens? in your case you started the post asking for information, but the machine in question does not have virtually nothing written, and then slowly we got now are you still mixing 3000 thousand things to me you're making too much of the confusion that you speak of read-modify-write a file to a machine gasoline sucked that no one reads and writes in the traditional way which does not change in a simple way that does not take nearly anything done by a professional, think a beginner as if nothing had happened,also, remember that a hole in a piston on a gasoline-it is very simple and planting the ecu not to say burn it, and even more simple then my best advice is:
why do not you entrust to a professional?
ciullo.eugenio
27-01-2014, 17:32
if I were to go to a professional, surely I was not here to ask for information and help, especially...
if you do not understand, but I think I was clear in the writing, I have written all the data of the controller, and since here it is st? speaking of professionalism, you should know that the ecu in question is the only fit petrol engines of fiat, including the 1.2 and 1.4 petrol grande punto, stilo, 1.6, and cos? ... the hw300 m1 only fits great point... so it was not difficult to understand, then I'm not mixing 3000 things, since I have currently only one interface at this time and ? the mpps, I just wanted to know if ? can read it via this interface, even on the bench, even putting it in the boot I do not f? worry, just that I give the certainty I do I do not have problems, but at least a guide, not only for me but also for the other at least one base in a way that someone can support...
This ? a beautiful world, but no one on the internet wants to share their knowledge... pistons with holes in them, and other problems that are not there... I did 6 years in the workshop should removing, maybe in 6 years, a little something I made...
Having said this my intention ? to eliminate the holes of this mapping is the ecu, the car ? pretty much dead, has a provision very bad non-linear with a hole on 2000rpm 3500rpm and 4500rpm, when in theory at 4500 rpm is makkina should fly xk has the maximum torque them... and then I decided to read IS the map of this unit, modify it and write it... but since ? the first time I make a 5sf3 and I never put a ecu in the boot, also perk? on the golf fiesta and other cars that I did read, I'd adjust and I wrote and everything was fine... now on this I can not read it, but only scriverlaa, and as I have found online file ori of the same unit but with different software (and in spite of us? the mapping was identical and confirmed the holes that I have found) my curiosity? you ? aquita... so I posted the question, but siccomee has had a negative outcome, I made another: you can? read in boot via mpps? I ? was said to you... but the schema to put it in the boot where can I find it?... for ovviet? both for read and for write it I have to send her to always boot right? mpps asks me the correction of the checksum, I my s? gi? that of cks this unit has D9EA but the program mpps at the time of writing I require the fix, and I f? search for a file checksum.dll <- where, I take it? the calculation on ecm c'?... the f?... but the file as I create it?
I repeat I do not want to rely on a professional, otherwise I wouldn't be here asking for help and information, and then you... you are not a professional?
msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2014, 23:42
if I were to go to a professional, surely I was not here to ask for information and help, especially...
if you do not understand, but I think I was clear in the writing, I have written all the data of the controller, and since here it is st? speaking of professionalism, you should know that the ecu in question is the only fit petrol engines of fiat, including the 1.2 and 1.4 petrol grande punto, stilo, 1.6, and cos? ... the hw300 m1 only fits great point... so it was not difficult to understand, then I'm not mixing 3000 things, since I have currently only one interface at this time and ? the mpps, I just wanted to know if ? can read it via this interface, even on the bench, even putting it in the boot I do not f? worry, just that I give the certainty I do I do not have problems, but at least a guide, not only for me but also for the other at least one base in a way that someone can support...
some just put a row of numbers and I need to know a few car,make,model,engine displacement,horsepower,year of construction corresponds so I am a professional right?
msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2014, 23:46
This ? a beautiful world, but no one on the internet wants to share their knowledge... pistons with holes in them, and other problems that are not there... I did 6 years in the workshop should removing, maybe in 6 years, a little something I made...
of course no one wants to share on a forum like this people like yourself who do not even know what it was, a mpps now speak, read and write a file in bootmode'll probably have dreamed of the night and the morning after you know what and how to do it,for the pistons bored you know how many I have felt as you do, and then when things happen mourn?well, of course you have 6 years of the workshop, then what is the problem.
msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2014, 23:51
I repeat I do not want to rely on a professional, otherwise I wouldn't be here asking for help and information, and then you... you are not a professional?
rely on a professional means to pay for the work that you did and didn't do the presumptuous as to make you,you know what? the pros for me, the first rule below, and' humility' what you sconosci completely then I wish you good luck in your venture and I will close here.
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 02:01
My advice ? to always make sure of the number, hw and sw of the controller that you want to edit and use only the original software in order to avoid harms to lock the ecu and then having to intervene in tour mode? bdm
ciullo.eugenio
28-01-2014, 07:36
msport I don't know if you guessed my message, but I say that so that they are cocky and humble I have entrusted to this forum before doing damage... then see you to understand what you want...
eobdexpression I checked physically 2103L65 with the 0813L45 and are pretty much the same... I was curious to know if it was the other saw that the 2103L65 I have a gold and instead of 0813L45 I have almost nothing... it was what I wanted to know anyway thanks...
I'm entrusting to you... why? not to help me?
edit. I was referring to the msport if x courtesy to help me...
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 17:03
I think that msport you have left to talk about, and have closed the discussion a few posts prior to this he will not answer you already? the answer you the date
ciullo.eugenio
28-01-2014, 19:52
the purpose of the forum ? to help to?... anyway... that's okay...
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