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I must include in the workshop a new good problem to airbag ecu, I made a diagnosis this morning and gave me the ecu fails, someone has already? put your hands on these units or can you? ripistinare with usual file ripristino.........
strange...
that recovery file you mean?
let's say file recovery after crasch or outbreak drivers I'm afraid that is a fault internal to the ecu and you need to replace it....
ok fine... but if I didn't crash or anything difficult that you ruin...
you to know that you have welded on the machine? etc?
perhaps the solution pi? fast and to take it to collapse and restores the e2p in case you fossino open the drivers...
exactly what I thought it was me for? let's see if someone has already? done something similar....
write down the codes in the ecu and see if around you can find a dump virgin
just to double check...
ok the codes the ecu are 54827585 continental
blackwolf76
05-09-2012, 23:50
That I know should not be necessary to replace the airbag control unit in the event of an accident in that car. Look at the case I have one in for repair in the workshop and that I assemble the next week, so before then I can not test since I got a kit airbab complete and I should advance the control unit if the old one ? still good and I do not create errors in diagnosis. You spend the dump, for? I know that I have adequate equipment for the operation.
That I know should not be necessary to replace the airbag control unit in the event of an accident in that car. Look at the case I have one in for repair in the workshop and that I assemble the next week, so before then I can not test since I got a kit airbab complete and I should advance the control unit if the old one ? still good and I do not create errors in diagnosis. You spend the dump, for? I know that I have adequate equipment for the operation.
The code of my controller is ok ? this Fiat Bravo - 51827585 Siemens 5WK43641 should mount a 95320 you should read that and then write a dump ...
but are you sure that you need the clear , read e2prom and email the file
I'm looking for a ecu used but I can't find anything can anyone tell me if ? compatible with other codes......
I found a 51827584 always good but - Siemens -
blackwolf76
06-09-2012, 23:24
The mine should be continental if I'm not mistaken...
Today I had a moment of time to study the thing.
tomorrow if you have time, try to throw an eye on if you are the mountains a new one take away I need I would highly recommend let me know since now I can't find anything......
blackwolf76
07-09-2012, 09:01
51873889 ? one, the other ? 51877617, the first ? siemens while the second ? continental, and have the same connectors.
IF it can? fit one of the two I can't just give you this, once the work is finished.
now I control but your I know that ? diesel mine ? gasoline I think that you have checked the number of the pins are the same then you know that after them you have to make alignment of the body you will blink km....
I checked that with 51873889 ? compatible let me know....
blackwolf76
07-09-2012, 11:05
I checked that with 51873889 ? compatible let me know....
The alignment should not be a problem, I connect the kts and I should solve. My Bravo ? diesel, so the unit that you need ? the one that mounts in the source, if it goes well the other one that I have I will send it to you, but if not ? compatible tap to find a different solution. Wait until next week and as soon as I have tested that the machine works with one of the two you sent the other without problems.
The alignment should not be a problem, I connect the kts and I should solve. My Bravo ? diesel, so the unit that you need ? the one that mounts in the source, if it goes well the other one that I have I will send it to you, but if not ? compatible tap to find a different solution. Wait until next week and as soon as I have tested that the machine works with one of the two you sent the other without problems.
sorry I did not understand can you give me the 51873889 or you still need to see if your okay this to me, I'm sure that goes......
blackwolf76
07-09-2012, 13:24
sorry I did not understand can you give me the 51873889 or you still need to see if your okay this to me, I'm sure that goes......
the 51873889 ? the one that was mounted originally on my bravo and have exploded the drivers, which they say is not ? need to be replaced in the event of an explosion. The other one that I took with the kit airbag has the code different ? continental.... and I'm not sure that will go well. If I work the new you do what you need...
sorry how many drivers are erupted to the machine..... you can reset only with original tester for? if they are broke all the airbags are not the reset pi? let me know how to just do a test...
also the control unit is used you need to work with your orig file , reset via file clear controllers must be of the same brand
blackwolf76
07-09-2012, 21:28
At the car jumped off the front airbags and the seat belt, while I saved the seats and steering columns. Probably Monday or Tuesday complete the installation and then I'll let you know.
But you have already? asked fiat to reset after a crash you have said that the reset or you want to mount that they gave you with the kit drivers......
I think the problem is the sw if it does all that ? in the list you are comfortable that you can not find it so? easily on the net... I've tried various versions but all of them have something I have one for which I have passed the key of the recording cana also......
blackwolf76
12-09-2012, 01:10
I have tried both and I have problems with both.
That crashed not makes me reset and erase mistakes with the diagnosis, while the other is fine but I noted a couple of missing parts that I need to figure out how to resolve it, even if I have already? a half-idea of how to intervene.
ok can you give me that crascata cos? shelter my........What problems do you have with the second maybe I can help.....
blackwolf76
12-09-2012, 10:36
In the diagnosis with the kts bosch gives me error on the sensors of the impact side of the right and left, using the new ecu... while the old me, I couldn't do anything being that ? crash. Now I don't know if the sti benedetti sensors does not see them why? ? incompatible with, or maybe if there is some other problem.
PS: but the sti sensors where they are mounted??
ok I ? gi? happened to me with a fusion I had to go get the sensors bump to the side where I had taken the material and mounted its solved the problem try to see where you bought the kit you will see that will surely solve the mystery of...
blackwolf76
12-09-2012, 11:39
ok I ? gi? happened to me with a fusion I had to go get the sensors bump to the side where I had taken the material and mounted its solved the problem try to see where you bought the kit you will see that will surely solve the mystery of...
the fact ? that I do not know the sensors where they are located and ******** not ? that help me so much...
PS: but to be in error, why? are damaged or not compatible??
The sensors do not break out ever are not compatible with the ecu....... Generally they are fixed to the sill of the front door but towards the inside where you see plastic protection ? fastened with a screw in the center....
test to see if these screen you can help.... Sorry, but I checked just now on the fiat of the shock sensors are fixed on the front and maybe one on the central part of the tunnel
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Hello, I try to read here
http://forum.stiloclub.it/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=30471
Perhaps we......
blackwolf76
13-09-2012, 11:16
The sensors should be mounted in the steering column of the port, but at this point I always have the problem of the flashing odometer even change the sensor and put the new ecu.
Also if crashed, I also flashes with the old ecu.
if you buy a new ecu, you always have to go to fiat to initialize it why? should be done with the original instrument, from what I understand you only have kts, and this does nothing to us? then in fiat auto will align the odometer. Now you have to decide you to do even why? I think that the tests you have done enough now......
blackwolf76
13-09-2012, 12:21
if you buy a new ecu, you always have to go to fiat to initialize it why? should be done with the original instrument, from what I understand you only have kts, and this does nothing to us? then in fiat auto will align the odometer. Now you have to decide you to do even why? I think that the tests you have done enough now......
I probably would have a chance? to retrieve the sensors? in the case I would always have the problem with the odometer, if I should fix. I have to propvare if I can put the old ecu...
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 13:05
I did restore the old ecu and I fixed all the rest, now? I ? remained on the odometer flashing. As I understand tap go to fiat with the official tool??
but you have not said that you have the kts with what you should do alignment system, or for new bravo does not have the item if you are in a hurry, next week I have to do then if I can I'll explain the steps......
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 15:39
I tried... but it makes me the kts.
I'm going to do crash recovery and gives me error. clear all the errors but the odometer remains flashing.
alt but what does reset errors data crash with flashing odometer...............
Then ? them where mistakes today I did a diagnosis to a new bravo and I saw that the kts ago........
go to the screen where you sign in to the diagnosis select with an x central electronic you two appear written to a central electronic with the handle, the other alignment config with the point, click on that and you do? alignment then if really? lha did what it says on the odometer flashes ir? test and let me know before I go in fiat waiting for......
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 22:11
Really? I tried to do that step, but I don't go to the place. Maybe I have missed something and tomorrow you try again, you never know that I know impappinato on some step..
Data crashes are the only thing that the kts does not ? managed to resettarmi. I keep you informed...
for this reason I said if it does why? some times you say alignment is ok then nothing if you have time, also try with other versions of the car, I manage not to odometers, also of very different models used as proof.....
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 22:55
Tomorrow, I say to you...
I doubt that I will remain on even for the fact that they are not out yet to try it in the street, and maybe to the fact that esp still does not ? calibrated me from that problem, even if it may not be centered nothing.
no flashing has nothing to do you should turn off by itself has begun to blink when you shot the picture without airbag control unit attached to it or one that was not his own, even if you forgive her does not stop blinking....
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 23:24
no flashing has nothing to do you should turn off by itself has begun to blink when you shot the picture without airbag control unit attached to it or one that was not his own, even if you forgive her does not stop blinking....
Casino co ste new machines... they are always to complicate the lives of all the bullshit.
Lately, I have arranged the drivers to 3/4 cars less recent ? enough to assemble all the components, almost always used and recovered from demolition, to make it work everything.
It is true the free ride is coming to an end but will stay? work for those that are cutting-edge and, above all, work in a good sar? the end of the bunglers and diy.......do not take evil, not referring to you..... I think you did...
blackwolf76
28-09-2012, 23:42
It is true the free ride is coming to an end but will stay? work for those that are cutting-edge and, above all, work in a good sar? the end of the bunglers and diy.......do not take evil, not referring to you..... I think you did...
In fact, the thing I'm not sorry, even why? if we have difficulty? us that we are in it all day the bunglers may not be able to just get their hands on it, at least that will not begin to spend the money for equipment and giochilli not ammortizzeranno ever.
blackwolf76
29-09-2012, 10:49
I have to thank publicly the friend sno74, had it not been for him I would not have solved the problem. In fact, I pointed to him the solution illustrandomi that voice on the KTS that I had ignored, and that has allowed me to solve the problem of the odometer. Even if the cause of the problem was the airbag ecu, bens? the framework for the instrumentation of the air-conditioner which I had replaced because his was slightly worn and was not aligned to the can of the car.
msport (exil77grande)
29-09-2012, 11:31
very good,then thanks to the user sno74
well I'm glad that you're done now, next week it's up to me with a new bravo, let's see how it goes..... I am new good lately and I are rognando bad for luck, have sold a few......
blackwolf76
29-09-2012, 12:48
well I'm glad that you're done now, next week it's up to me with a new bravo, let's see how it goes..... I am new good lately and I are rognando bad for luck, have sold a few......
wow... not bad, not bad they sold a few.
my parts there are na tide...
here are the tide a figure and the new bravo a few.....With regard to the kts ? a good tool even if expensive to maintain as it's legal, we say the problem as all the testers are the support staff is not adequate and always come when you if arranged I now open a experience recently with texa and I took the tester to be used simultaneously to others that I have already? here, however, have given assistance to the two guys are really good and do everything to help you....unfortunately, if we want to continue we should always spend money on systems of diagnosis and then if you continue with the chip tuning this sector ? even more? various....Watch I have a policy I try to have things more? indispensable for my work, then a little time for me to purchase what I need... every repair that I am the the various devices a-gain and I dedicate it to a species of the bottom when I decide to buy other material the peach until now ? always gone then we will see....
blackwolf76
29-09-2012, 17:20
The Tide here, but I'm finished for a life time and are available only in a demolition, and in my humble opinion ? well na machine of poop. With regard to the diagnosis, instead, we could make a treaty, if you say only that the first that I have taken about 10 years ago it was a axone 2000 of texa, a ciofeca awesome.
That gun that I sold it, I did spend a bang, about 6000 euros, including diagnosis, oscilloscope, and various pins, which I never depreciated. Then litigai with the distribuotore because the updates that you paid for and never arrived, if not connecting to the instrumentation at 56k and keep it there for two days hoping that it would crash, and with the line of the tel-occupied. By l? taken the kts 540 (2009) without a subscription, the software, and I removed a lot of satisfaction, without spending a penny of updates. Good or bad I am always able to find the updates in a non-official, now I use the 03/2012...
see depends on the distributor and what do you do for a I the kts are about 7 years old that I use I would not do an exchange with other diagnoses, but I'll tell you what today's regenerations forced almost zero new group vag edc 17 entrii all errors unknown despite fitting bosch configurations body zero today, unfortunately, if you work on the pi? brands need many diagnosis in the workshop then updates certain if you download them for free but when you buy an official tool from bosch and then not do the update if you get a check and see that the kts ? up-to-date son cocks for the workshop now texa update ? via adsl and then a treat the bosch ir? a time update phase is crying then I must re-install everything.........go go baaaa! but the important ? get to the end that you needed kts I was only that you didn't know the exact steps it always comes back to the base we use various meters not knowing the potential?.....
blackwolf76
30-09-2012, 01:06
Let's say that the texa ? + advanced instrumentation and support unlike bosch, for? have a cost so excessive that passes you will?... In addition to the fact that I don't think I give interfaces that you can use on your pc. Of course, there are pros and cons on all of the diagnosis, for? considering also the specific work that I do, I will be fine with the bosch. In my area, with very few exceptions, there is a car park brand new and since I primarily do I mechanical I don't need lots of equipment. Apart from that then I have some colleagues with whom they have good relations, and in the case we exchange the pleasures of the instruments. Then, considering that a lot of people spend money for diagnosis tarocche, and without the updates ? very + convenient to buy a kts, which costs little in the +.
With regard to the update I never had any problems, only once I had the pc that was giving trouble and I planted the bosch, but it was not his fault.
blackwolf76
13-10-2012, 01:22
well I'm glad that you're done now, next week it's up to me with a new bravo, let's see how it goes..... I am new good lately and I are rognando bad for luck, have sold a few......
In the end I managed to fix the car in question, though not without thinking, given that the car was accident-free and in addition to the mechanical damage and the bodywork has pulled out a lot of trouble with the electronics.
For the last I can only tell you that it gave me the error on the angle sensor of the steering column, as had been absent, really? the problem was that having removed the steering wheel and then reassembled it was moved one tooth, and then is damn drive took the error, which then blocked the esp. As for me sar? even a car that goes well, but given the category I see it is too complex and, with time, the whole of st electronics mander? freaked out the owners, to the delight of the mechanics:cool:.
PS: gave error in diagnosis engine on the sensor, coolant, it was making me become a fool, in the end it was the gas of the air-conditioner which was missing.
You ? true the electronics ? the downfall of the car, but these days ? the thing that is making us work more? you need to stay up to date and not to lose heart at the end under a large tribulata there is always a great******* hello and good job....
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