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ducati83
21-01-2014, 22:25
Hello guys I was searching the net a bit of information regarding dtc, how to intervene and how to find them: then the thing that I understand ? that er see them just mark the number of the error with the diagnosis and then scroll through the file in hex and you should find the error number in the table...? I would like to understand how to see the file in hex? you can? do with titanium?
of course the avr? wrote a lot of inaccuracies, but if someone wants to....
thanks in advance.
ah, if the moderators allow it on the net I found some document regarding ecu siemens.....
With titanium you can? see the ecu in hexadecimal, next to the icon of the 2d c'? a key "hex edit", or by clicking on the men? at the top click edit, and then click hex. I don't know if it was what you were talking about. However, I tried to view unamappa in hexadecimal, and we sincerely I understood very little. The discourse ? interesting, but for which the application could be useful?
ducati83
21-01-2014, 23:27
yes, I saw it with titanium but I have the screen where you see different...not in a binary....
? interesting why? I give you an example:if the engine has a problem, for example, a component such as the egr that goes in and out the light you can turn off fixing the map the dtc....
for? ? more to understand that as a utility? if....some programs make the correction dtc but I don't understand the way
yes, I saw it with titanium but I have the screen where you see different...not in a binary....
? interesting why? I give you an example:if the engine has a problem, for example, a component such as the egr that goes in and out the light you can turn off fixing the map the dtc....
for? ? more to understand that as a utility? if....some programs make the correction dtc but I don't understand the way
So it might be useful as for the example you made, given that the egr it excludes almost always, for? if it was broken even by excluding you put on the light. In this way, turn off your the segnlazione. Also I have given a look to the values in the esa and are binary, in the pi? I don't even understand how to interpret them. So I guess you were talking to a different way of view, not what I said. Let's hope for a clarification of the pi? expert.
franco75
22-01-2014, 00:27
I'm studying, I have almost figured out how to work the edc16c8, I need to find out some things about the types of error report
as a hex editor, I'm fine with "hex workshop"
I'm studying, I have almost figured out how to work the edc16c8, I need to find out some things about the types of error report
as a hex editor, I'm fine with "hex workshop"
But the process would be like? As soon as you have the failure, read the map and open it with an editor?
So it might be useful as for the example you made, given that the egr it excludes almost always, for? if it was broken even by excluding you put on the light. In this way, turn off your the segnlazione. Also I have given a look to the values in the esa and are binary, in the pi? I don't even understand how to interpret them. So I guess you were talking to a different way of view, not what I said. Let's hope for a clarification of the pi? expert.
No, even if the EGR the exclude from the ecu, you can't turn off his control, why? each time the ecu is always the check of the components, and then if he feels that the electrical part does not work, you still the error even if I run out just from the table of the dtc...
franco75
22-01-2014, 10:06
the failure you only need the error code, the circles in the ecu, and you can set the type of error, and then decide whether or not to turn on the MIL.
If you agree, we may choose a file of a edc16 to work together.
the failure you only need the error code, the circles in the ecu, and you can set the type of error, and then decide whether or not to turn on the MIL.
If you agree, we may choose a file of a edc16 to work together.
According to me ? a great idea with a practical example we can definitely get some concrete results. The only problem ? I can't yet scarcare attachments for? a couple of file ori edc16 got them, so if we choose one of those in my possession, I can give I a look.
Certainly I have:
883.726 GT
580.629 Bravo
291.777 Croma
there is a special program
franco75
22-01-2014, 11:56
the program does not take them on edc16 but it's only some edc15 and some siemens 803/4
*Gpoint choose a file of a car where you can simulate an error, so I that managers are similar
the program does not take them on edc16 but it's only some edc15 and some siemens 803/4
*Gpoint choose a file of a car where you can simulate an error, so I that managers are similar
Can I do it directly on my. Tell me what I can unplug:
Plug the egr
Mass air flow sensor
rail
It could be enough? What do I do them disconnected and I turn on the machine?
ducati83
22-01-2014, 13:12
that's nice....if you want I can also test it on my car....put a file ori or segnalatene one from the database and start working....
for? I wanted someone to explain how to find the area dtc, regardless of the file type...then maybe we would be moved on to examine a case-by-case with different files....
Alfa159 q4
22-01-2014, 14:49
No, even if the EGR the exclude from the ecu, you can't turn off his control, why? each time the ecu is always the check of the components, and then if he feels that the electrical part does not work, you still the error even if I run out just from the table of the dtc...
No, if you take away the dtc in the map you will not have any error in memory, mil light on.
the program does not take them on edc16 but it's only some edc15 and some siemens 803/4
*Gpoint choose a file of a car where you can simulate an error, so I that managers are similar
The program dtc remover official and up-to-date works on many types of ecu, also edc16, marelli, etc...maybe you talk version crack but ? old.
franco75
22-01-2014, 15:01
you are right, I have a old version free not cracked. now I've just seen that ? surcharge
surely with the ori have anke l assistance
franco75
22-01-2014, 16:04
Can I do it directly on my. Tell me what I can unplug:
Plug the egr
Mass air flow sensor
rail
It could be enough? What do I do them disconnected and I turn on the machine?
I would say plug the egr, the file ? one of the GT?
the nice indeed would be studying each other on from the exeditor I have tried it with a 1.9 with immo total and lit to remove the dtc but x now without result, but I'm studying over time lost
I would say plug the egr, the file ? one of the GT?
Today I failed, I did a p? late to work, tomorrow, surely, the load. Then out only the egr and with the error this I reread the ecu.
the failure you only need the error code, the circles in the ecu, and you can set the type of error, and then decide whether or not to turn on the MIL.
If you agree, we may choose a file of a edc16 to work together.
So you mean to say that if I go into diagnosis, and I find the error p1400(approximate number) I map examination you should be searching for actually. The num of the error, or c'? a conversion from
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franco75
22-01-2014, 22:21
Today I failed, I did a p? late to work, tomorrow, surely, the load. Then out only the egr and with the error this I reread the ecu.
no, you don't have to re-read, the file does not change. deadlifts l egr and read the error code with a diagnosis. modify the file so that the unit does not turn on the light and try.
no, you don't have to re-read, the file does not change. deadlifts l egr and read the error code with a diagnosis. modify the file so that the unit does not turn on the light and try.
Ok, then the procedure ? much more? simple, tomorrow I do the operation. The file ori sar? the GT 883.726
ducati83
22-01-2014, 23:19
sorry guys but I don't think that this is the way to go....my intent was to understand, first of all the dtc as are expressed in the map, then figure out how and where to find them and then eventually try on some file....I think that it is better to know how to look for them that make them directly, and copy the map...not that your initiative is wrong indeed....you have made many steps aside some small explanation...of course, always that someone wants to do it...
sorry guys but I don't think that this is the way to go....my intent was to understand, first of all the dtc as are expressed in the map, then figure out how and where to find them and then eventually try on some file....I think that it is better to know how to look for them that make them directly, and copy the map...not that your initiative is wrong indeed....you have made many steps aside some small explanation...of course, always that someone wants to do it...
Pi? what else is working in this way can? serve to find some reference in the map that you enlighten us with a p? pi?, just to understand something.
Tonight I did the test, I disconnected the connector for the egr, and I started the machine. Light engine turned on, written on the body in the failure of the system to control the engine, or something like that. I connected the MES and the code indicated it was P0403 - EGR-Valve, in the details, there was written: Status fault - Open Circuit.
I usually on the bosch turned the error, for example, P0403 from hex to decimal (1027) then I can see the 2d map in the format in which to display maps and do a search for value, 1027, between the various areas that the software is usually c'? also the area of dtc, the problem after ? do the operation right to turn it off.
Some time ago I tried to turn on a edc15 vw tour, and a p? at the time I was able to do so despite the fact that there was no sensor and the actuator connected in the memory does not record any error.
ducati83
24-01-2014, 00:35
here ? this is what I meant.....now we need to figure out how to get the transformation....
grain surgery is very constructive, thank you...if you want to give more information, we are all ears....
dvdtuning
24-01-2014, 00:36
Guys online there was a document that explained how to do it through a series of calculations and steps...should find and study a bit on that,on the contrary I think I've seen it right here on the forum.
ducati83
24-01-2014, 12:17
let us look and see what we find...
in the meantime, take a look at these examples, I have taken an ecu vw edc15 of a 101 hp the powered tour with diagnosis connected I have taken note of the errors both in the code P-VW (five digits) I have searched in the 2d (16-bit intel in this case), and I took it to zero those areas one at a time until the memory errors appeared not pi? nothing, the only thing I have connected an external light for the light failure.from the tests I have done if the error results in recovery it is difficult to exclude the one over the light.
ducati83
24-01-2014, 17:15
ok the dar? take a look and help? know.
in the meantime, thanks
ok, I've had a look but the problem ? the usual one:we have an error code, figure out how to transform it, and then find in the map....unfortunately cos? at least I only see the bits that have numbers but nothing more?....
if you look closely at the bits reset to 0 there are also error codes in 5 digit vw and if I remember correctly, also the Pxxxx, then the best system as I said ? have an ecu on the bench, or even better, a machine on which cause the error and then do the various tests.
ducati83
25-01-2014, 13:18
ok but do you have a table of codes vw?
megamind
25-01-2014, 14:36
Guys online there was a document that explained how to do it through a series of calculations and steps...should find and study a bit on that,on the contrary I think I've seen it right here on the forum.
I found this I don't know if you were talking about the same thing:
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?3242-EDC16-Elimiazione-DTC-Formula-vera-o-falsa&highlight=eliminare
ducati83
25-01-2014, 15:17
hmmm the thing ? interesting.....but the fact remains that it should be true of the known data to be able to intervene....
if you look closely at the bits reset to 0 there are also error codes in 5 digit vw and if I remember correctly, also the Pxxxx, then the best system as I said ? have an ecu on the bench, or even better, a machine on which cause the error and then do the various tests.
no I don't follow: then I address 0528CC in the upper right find myself under the table Dec. 19561,0000 then this number corresponds to an error vw, which then in turn corresponds to a code error Pxxxx?
chicco
26-01-2014 12:00 pm
exactly, if you are looking for the error code veg 19561 in the network, you'll see that it corresponds to some sensor that was not connected when I turned on the ecu tour type tair th2o or pressure coll, etc..
ducati83
26-01-2014, 17:16
ok with winols I open up the search in hex 16-bit and I look for the error code without the p, but I do not corresponds to the hexadecimal number of the error vag as ever?
simply because? the error in P is written in a point (display in hexadecimal), and the error vag ? written in another place and see it in decimal, not ? that by converting the error in P from hex to decimal return to you the error vag, are in two blocks distiniti.
if you look closely at where you can find the value 19561 the next value ? in hex 3105 that would be P3105, pi? forward, you see the error 17564 and the value next bed in hex ? 1156 (P1156), I hope to be a p? pi? clearly, in order to intervene and eliminate the errors you have to make a p? of tests, sometimes you succeed and sometimes not.
ducati83
26-01-2014, 22:42
so if I find an error in the ecu, for example, P061b, you'll find? with a search in the hex a bit in the map that must be brought to zero.....but if ce n'? more than one with that value?
then I would like to be clarified: but the dtc ? a bit, or has a structure?in this second case should be constants detected in each error....or am I wrong?
thanks again.....
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 02:11
so if I find an error in the ecu, for example, P061b, you'll find? with a search in the hex a bit in the map that must be brought to zero.....but if ce n'? more than one with that value?
then I would like to be clarified: but the dtc ? a bit, or has a structure?in this second case should be constants detected in each error....or am I wrong?
thanks again.....
Hello dtcs are any of the lights of errors that may appear on the body computer and in the instrument panel that is usually detect as well as on the framework in the diagnosis, therefore, many smart to avoid that the customer do the work, not being able to fix a fault eliminated through the elimination of the dtc by masking and then the problem that a car as a result of a modification made evil or a malfunction could have, but sometimes you have to reset the dtc on some ecu specifications that while doing a perfect job on some ecu you have to delete it the same. You have to see in which situations and the ecu and the reasons why sometimes you have to tap the dtc
ducati83
28-01-2014, 02:16
I give you an example:if I edit on the map, the limiter of the mm3 iniettatti but I do it with criterion coming out from the parameters that are eligible for the ecu as I reset the dtc that give me? a general failure of the ecu?
as mentioned above?
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 02:22
I give you an example:if I edit on the map, the limiter of the mm3 iniettatti but I do it with criterion coming out from the parameters that are eligible for the ecu as I reset the dtc that give me? a general failure of the ecu?
as mentioned above?
If you move the limiters ip policy and adapt advances the pedal torque etc do you give? the recovery why? the control unit recognizes that the limit to which you have increased flow rate of the diesel fuel, therefore the ninth, I see the reason to reset the dtc I for example on my alfa I made the map with limiter iq in mm3 increased but it's not giving me any recovery, therefore, not c'? the state need to intervene on the dtc
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