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Hello to all. This ? the map ori of my car was a Peugeot 207 1.6 THP 156 Hp ECU MED 17.4.5
The car already? from the original has always had the defect that with the engine under stress (1.500 - 2000) rpm and high gear (4 or 5 or 6), when I press it all the throttle and hits you in the head. I know that this engine ? enough subject to such flaws.
I wanted, for what I could learn, to make a small change, and for now, I have to say that the defect ? vanished. I propose to you my file to give me your opinion and advice.
Thanks.
file ori deleted
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leandro89
19-01-2014, 22:56
by regulation, the files should be placed in the bank if there are gi?, in the discussion it must be pasted the link with the number of posts, if by some reading in some discussion you realize how it should be done. thanks
Sorry I did not know, and perhaps I ? ran away, but I have not read this in the regulation. I added it in the database file ori. The link qu? why? I do not pi? change the message. I hope it goes well.
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?547-207&p=77765&viewfull=1#post77765
giannimini
02-03-2014, 23:49
injection at full load your map by putting values fattening and removing smagrisci thou hast taken away then I think you will have emaciated... why? the values are increasing in the map. you have emaciated 6% to full load and from 1600 rpm up on this map (assuming that it is really a map injection)
in the map-injection at full load you have added values, and map values are decreasing to increasing rpm and load, then I think you will have emaciated even 5% supercgi?
so I don't understand how did you not pi? the beat in the head... ? strange :-)
tralaltro have also increased the turbo 200 points which is fine but ? strange that you don't have ir? the beat in the head.
have you measured with a afratio? or you went to the ear, those engines have problems with the belt tensioner, pu? be that maybe you both disappeared that problem, why? the machine warms up before girnado mpi? lean and not the well-known pi??
My in theory it should already more have the problem to the chain tensioner!!! For the rest you should really understand the ecm what he means in his descriptions for the maps! Unfortunately, from the diagnosis I can not see the afr value! As soon as I can buy an instrument! To the ear it seems to turn more full, but you can not say with certainty!
fabiovts88
03-03-2014, 00:39
the driver can receive your files in pm I'm curious to see the gains ... in the other thread ? been said that the values here give you in the right direction, not like in the control unit of the bosch me
giannimini
03-03-2014, 00:54
My in theory it should already more have the problem to the chain tensioner!!! For the rest you should really understand the ecm what he means in his descriptions for the maps! Unfortunately, from the diagnosis I can not see the afr value! As soon as I can buy an instrument! To the ear it seems to turn more full, but you can not say with certainty!
and the fact is, however, from what I interpreted I the map it seems that you are emaciated, the fact ? that who knows is not here to tell you why? rightly perhaps ? jealous of his knowledge :-)
fabiovts88
03-03-2014, 00:56
according to me to get to a conclusion we must arm ourselves with sensor afr and check everything so we understand :)
giannimini
03-03-2014, 01:08
according to me to get to a conclusion we must arm ourselves with sensor afr and check everything so we understand :)
in fact it would be the best thing, but gi? with a tester placed in the first lambda and reading the voltages already? you should start to understand something.
if you read a p? on the internet understand what the various voltages and how much you're af/ratio
if I'm not mistaken I read that the probe reads the values with a voltage that is higher quand'? lean and lower quand'? fat...
for this there are also sensors exhaust gas temperature to see the carburation
fabiovts88
03-03-2014, 01:10
ahhh, behold, I didn't understand what was the value for the type of carburation ... great nn you never stop learning
leandro89
03-03-2014, 04:13
the driver can receive your files in pm I'm curious to see the gains ... in the other thread ? been said that the values here give you in the right direction, not like in the control unit of the bosch me
in the respect of the forum and the users that participate in such a request does not ? appropriate, careful to arrive at the threshold that allows you to download. you also wrote in the other discussion, I hope that you have understood the message
Hello to all. This ? the map ori of my car was a Peugeot 207 1.6 THP 156 Hp ECU MED 17.4.5
The car already? from the original has always had the defect that with the engine under stress (1.500 - 2000) rpm and high gear (4 or 5 or 6), when I press it all the throttle and hits you in the head. I know that this engine ? enough subject to such flaws.
I wanted, for what I could learn, to make a small change, and for now, I have to say that the defect ? vanished. I propose to you my file to give me your opinion and advice.
Thanks.
file ori deleted
6790
we can only say with that logic you changed?
:confused:
why? ? wrong
fabiovts88
03-03-2014, 15:34
hello guys I have made a tell me how
we can only say with that logic you changed?
:confused:
why? ? wrong
Unfortunately, they are the inizzi and from what I ? been taught, I have done accordingly. The only thing that using the ECM, I can't find good maps. In the sense that I'm not sure that they match what it says in the ECM. For this I asked for your advice and opinion. My intent was to grease a little injection trying to lower the temperature in the room, saw me ? was told that the problem with my heartbeat in my head, this was due to a lean fuel mixture.
:(
giannimini
03-03-2014, 20:15
Hello I am also in the beginning
Who do you rebuke the to why? he wants you to best
As I played I the map it seems that you have emaciated, at least for as are the values in the table, and how I interpreted them myself.
For example, for now we are doing a mini s volume and the met? the maps are out of the driver of the ecm.
Try to change values again, gaining weight and see if the knock persists
To be sure that the grease you put a tester in the first lambda and see what voltages you
Values high carb fat low carb lean
See what voltage it works your lambda, and draw your own conclusions from that
Good job
I found this conversion table may be good?
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giannimini
03-03-2014, 20:41
In that table I don't see voltages, devibtrovartebebuna voltages,
The attacks on the voltages of the output of the lambda and see if the values are ok.
Search the internet for optimal lambda voltage or something like that
X are now with the cell and I is difficult to give you a hand
In that table I don't see voltages, devibtrovartebebuna voltages,
The attacks on the voltages of the output of the lambda and see if the values are ok.
Search the internet for optimal lambda voltage or something like that
X are now with the cell and I is difficult to give you a hand
I thought that the values in the column lambda type 1.0, 1.1, etc corresponded to the volt. :confused:
yannsaba
03-03-2014, 21:14
lambda=1 volt (stoichiometric ratio for an ideal gas, i.e. of 14.7:1
lambda<1 rich mixture
lambda>1 lean mixture
an ideal ratio for maximum power should be around 13-12,5 but qu? we talk about the theoretical values then ? relative to other parameters, such as combustion temperatures etc
In any case take it with the pliers values that return the lambda probes narrow, doesn't it ? never a correct method to map a petrol, even if an indication you return it.
fabiovts88
03-03-2014, 21:22
thanks for the info yannsaba
yannsaba
03-03-2014, 21:29
I make a little summary table:
0,70 10,3
0,75 11,0
0,80 11,8
0,85 12,5
0,90 13,2
0,96 14,0
1,00 14,7
1,05 15,4
1,10 16,2
1,15 16,9
1,20 17,6
1,25 18,4
1,30 19,1
1,35 19,8
1,40 20,6
1,45 21,3
1,50 22,1
1,55 22,8
1,60 23,5
On the left, the values in volts to the right afr....
fabiovts88
04-03-2014, 00:15
you know that I don't know!! I'm at the point I think that it should be so, and I think that if it was so there is also a formula x to calculate everything and have an optimum fuel... I think...
fabiovts88
04-03-2014, 20:32
maybe you are right ke is as you say xke I known that the value of 128, compared to the other more low.. so I infer that ? very lean at those points and then go to put on weight ? from the table, if it was so it would be 1.25 = 18.4 so lean I think it is so
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