Problem reading/writing fiat doblo 1.3 mjet 75hp 6f3

[tidus1985]

Hello all, I am writing to try to solve this problem

Today I had a customer with a doblo 1.3 multijet 75hp 6f3, 3456D471 51843352

I'm going to read the file with my FGtech V53 clone, reading time employee 75minutes, 95% jumps to 100% and the reading is complete, check the file is 0kb, I'm looking for the file on the internet and find the file ori attachment, which I don't know neahce if it is correct, although the ecm recognizes him, I try to write with magpro because I go sure that I have already written other with this but I am missing the file to the micro that I can not find, of course, are unable to read bdm because the customer does not want to.

I read the flash and eprom separated with fgtech using as a driver, the old driver of the 70cv and reads me a flash file of 64 km and a file eeprom 4 kb

I told him that I ritornoare since the fgtech gave me the possibility to write by obd the file ori amended without the file micro but I was sure that it was correct.

I ask you for help if someone can give me a hand to find a reading in the bdm port of the ecu in question complete file micro mcp

Thanks in advance

[ugoboss]

hi tidus, the file you found, including micro, I believe that you could write even so, with the cock, but before the test I would do a backup (if the customer does not want to amen) otherwise extract the micro from a file and write with magpro.

[carlo abarth]

sorry maybe you're not good at soldering or don't have the template..you have a 53 do you tour and you take out the thought..I suggest you to go to the bdm port with the ecu many times in serial mode takes c** fiski!!!
Hello all, I am writing to try to solve this problem

Today I had a customer with a doblo 1.3 multijet 75hp 6f3, 3456D471 51843352

I'm going to read the file with my FGtech V53 clone, reading time employee 75minutes, 95% jumps to 100% and the reading is complete, check the file is 0kb, I'm looking for the file on the internet and find the file ori attachment, which I don't know neahce if it is correct, although the ecm recognizes him, I try to write with magpro because I go sure that I have already written other with this but I am missing the file to the micro that I can not find, of course, are unable to read bdm because the customer does not want to.

I read the flash and eprom separated with fgtech using as a driver, the old driver of the 70cv and reads me a flash file of 64 km and a file eeprom 4 kb

I told him that I ritornoare since the fgtech gave me the possibility to write by obd the file ori amended without the file micro but I was sure that it was correct.

I ask you for help if someone can give me a hand to find a reading in the bdm port of the ecu in question complete file micro mcp

Thanks in advance

[tidus1985]

In fact, I wanted to make it in the bdm, but the clie you did not want to open it up to the ECU. I have, but Schedoni spring and all. A question that I have never done that, that way with ECM estrapol? the file micro from the reading ?

[ugoboss]

this should go well, if everything is ok I have to have a drink.

[fuorigiri12000]

The board bdm and go siccuro.

[motorsport]

Tidus go in bdm,if something happens I have to open ? best nn risk!!

[Alfa159 q4]

In fact, I wanted to make it in the bdm, but the clie you did not want to open it up to the ECU. I have, but Schedoni spring and all. A question that I have never done that, that way with ECM estrapol? the file micro from the reading ?

On these marelli if done well there remains no sign of tampering on the frame, reseal with silicone and you are affixed.
The eye does not see the heart does not grieve!

P. s. the file is 0kb in size ? a known problem on many 53-54 on v48 I never had any of these problems (tested on dobl?, idea and musa 2.5 mb)

[tidus1985]

Meanwhile, I thank ugoboss, now I try to convince the client to work in the bdm, with sti v53 there a way to read these ECU by obd?

[passion engines]

Hello Tidus, I a few days f? I have read and riscritt from the serial with the v53 a dobl? 6f3, reading time is quite long, I can't remember exactly but I read a file 2,560 Kb.
Are you sure of the choice of the protocol that you used ???

[tidus1985]

sure, if I read with the protocol of the 70 reads me only 2 files, and there are only those two protocols, then c'? 8jf, but what ? another thing, maybe ? a bug of mine, also a normal 70cv not have had read to me, they'll love the marelli serial

[crteam]

I ? happened to me once and now only in the bdm.when the avr? the new gallo consigliatomi from a user here on the forum prover? serial and will see? as v

[tidus1985]

but it seems that even the v54 have these problems in the serial ste marelli, the majority of the v53 and v54, because my v53 does everything for the rest reads and writes in can

[fabio1207]

I'm a fiat 1.3 mjet 70 hp I read with cock v53 clone? read 64 kb I had not set the full-scale reading for? it has not given me any problem .

[crteam]

I'm a fiat 1.3 mjet 70 hp I read with cock v53 clone? read 64 kb I had not set the full-scale reading for? it has not given me any problem .

the reading never gives problems

[tidus1985]

With full read the read well?

[fabio1207]

[QUOTE=tidus1985;78300]read the full the has well read?[/QUOTE. S? Well read

[crteam]

but to complete what you mean always or serial bdm?

[QUOTE=tidus1985;78300]read the full the has well read?[/QUOTE. S? Well read

[147q2]

go bdm and 6 safe

[fabio1207]

but to complete what you mean always or serial bdm?
[QUOTE=fabio1207;78302]

no no always the serial bdm I never tried

[todos]

I recommend the reading of the bdm port on this unit, the serial problem.....

[cinqueturbo]

How, then, already? said again and again,
with a 70cv or 85cv wanting to waste time "45min" read, can you? also do serial with a certainty of success of 99%
with 75-90-105 the success is considerably lower, and calculating the reading time is not convenient to ir?..
go BDM!.. do it before and no problems....
and s? the BDM100 are you still doing the first of the good rooster v2..

[147q2]

with the bdm 100 as already suggested you do it safely

[sa80libero]

well one controls the protocol and if you don't want to take any risks go bdm, the owner must understand that it is more reliable in the bdm in the serial....

[pabloescobar]

With the kess would have no problem in serial, in fact, he writes in both the mico the flash

[carlo abarth]

a friend stuck today with a mpps be careful ...so you shoot ever!!

[crteam]

mpps go well with 6jf, and evil with 6f3

[motorsport]

azz I'm lucky then, or made thousands never locked!!

[147q2]

that goes wrong then the resume.

[crteam]

At this point for? better to lose half an hour before ke after 3 hours

[tidus1985]

here we are again, I mounted an add-on module
the cock shall not have had read to me in the bdm,
food ecu from the connector as a guide, remove resistor from the kit, use the adapter, cmd, without power, in the frattemtpo on the burning power of the gasslo, I put a new one stabilized, I connect all I'm going to press connect: error, not supported by the bdm, and try again several times, first with the jig and schedijni spring then with studs welded on the slopes, but nothing goes, and then try to read in the serial, 75min, and as usual, a 0 byte file, and yet he was a wingnut tested in bdm, or the bdm does not go on I'm v53, or the ecu had some problem, do you have any advice? control on the cock to see if the bdm works? type of measurements or anything else?

[cinqueturbo]

But other ECU BDM lai never read?

[crteam]

The bdm has nothing to do with the serial port. Even if it works well. Or a problem of the rooster, or in sw

[tidus1985]

no this would be the first, I took a month ago I'm v53

[cinqueturbo]

no this would be the first, I took a month ago I'm v53

Aaaa that is..
and how do we help you s? can be a variety of the causes of the failure of reading?
not to any ECU that you can do other tests?

[tidus1985]

I have my edc16c39, week, shot down and I try to read it, but I've never heard of a v53 which should not be the bdm, was wondering if someone had the measurements to be done to see if the bdm is missing some signal or power

I have a edc 17 truyck but nn is in the bdm, but you already tried reading odb via can kline and boot mode on edc17

[ugoboss]

in order to remove every doubt you have to try to read your own, then if it goes well you can' think' the problem on the marelli.

[tidus1985]

the marelli ? gone now, I have put a tbox, and I was annoyed

[carlo abarth]

sin I not I would have given up!!!

[tidus1985]

checking the pinouts known that where there shall be 3.3 to pin 9 there are 0.8 volts constant also when I press connect, that this is the problemas does not feed from the bdm ecu

[cinqueturbo]

Not or never measured anything on my cock,
but I can check..
tell me the Pin I have to check,
Pin9 and 3-5 right?
with the power supply plugged naturally?

[tidus1985]

and in the moment that you press connect, if you then make a measurement of all pins in the stop status to see the various voltages on all the pins would be great

[carlo abarth]

watch for the 53 and as the 48 that has the points of the flat marked saying the lag and cmd on the e xxx intermediate ..the one with the led's ...you will have to find you the right position!!! try doing the test on a amarelli because if you try on bosch could make out..if you don't go in a hurry tomorrow I go in the shop and I'll give you a picture of the e xxx is in the proper position !!!
I have my edc16c39, week, shot down and I try to read it, but I've never heard of a v53 which should not be the bdm, was wondering if someone had the measurements to be done to see if the bdm is missing some signal or power

I have a edc 17 truyck but nn is in the bdm, but you already tried reading odb via can kline and boot mode on edc17

[tidus1985]

maybe nessina in a hurry, anyway, I collegatoi flat on the e xxx ntermedio as shown in the figure on the manual, the one straight on the cock and the long one on the ecu

[cinqueturbo]

maybe nessina in a hurry, anyway, I collegatoi flat on the e xxx ntermedio as shown in the figure on the manual, the one straight on the cock and the long one on the ecu

The First Error...
The Long Side On The Rooster And The Short Side On E Xxx...

Another thing..
to tour all the operations you do is, however, fed the Cock, and I repeat Any..
maybe tera escaped..

[carlo abarth]

but you can also go to incontarrio could you make a photo and indicate the cdm to schedule and the lag for the cock with the paint!! so we ****!!! I have the 53 and I repeat all of the discussions that are inherent to that blessed cock make me laugh and think at the same way..because with my (if you have ****) I did a lot of mj8df in serial, and jtag-pcr2.1-edc17-marelli both in normal and bdm in serial-yesterday, I wrote even a mercedes b-class in serial c*c*ndomi but not too much because I read bdm ..I don't think that there are so many problems with this atrezzo but on the contrary bless you!!!
ps: I, too, had had your stessoprobelma but I had put the flet on the contrary, I think ..well as you did this!!!


The First Error...
The Long Side On The Rooster And The Short Side On E Xxx...

e-mail photos l error and them'!!!!

[tidus1985]

for a moment, then, as shown in the figure on the rail, the connector is perpendicular to the e xxx the cock and the connector is parallel to the e xxx on the ecu ( on the e xxx of the ecu ) of course, my ? all green fcon connectors black e xxx

[carlo abarth]

tidus nn I need to see is pictures, but I have to do the photos of your e xxx with the flat attacked!!!!!

[cinqueturbo]

e-mail photos l error and them'!!!!

Sorry charles, but maybe you're addressing the wrong person..
what problems am I not but tidus1985..

[carlo abarth]

the photos of the manuals I slam.. because on these clones have the attributes swollen....on bdm100 just came out losai how many troubles have been made by colleagues because they did not know that the falt were all incontario then armed with patience and can't understand why I'm the cock not the law ..and you diko will be the first cock 53 that is not the law in bdm even though I doubt it!!!


Sorry charles, but maybe you're addressing the wrong person..
what problems am I not but tidus1985..

forgive me for the knife!!!

[tidus1985]

here's how I have it connected to the lat are the same only that one ? longer

here is the image

[carlo abarth]

give the cio a photo of a reading bdm with a galletto v53 a sid ..we see s eno I need to open up the workshop!!!

[cinqueturbo]

here is the image

In the facts and under the above...


give the cio a photo of a reading bdm with a galletto v53 a sid ..we see s eno I need to open up the workshop!!!

Here is how it goes, and placed...
and you know what pisses me? that you do not even what it says in the manual..
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[tidus1985]

it seems to me connected as the one in the picture, because long cable and a short cable, differ as pedinatura to the connectors?

in the meantime, thanks really great to all of you who have been helping, thanks a lot to all guys

[cinqueturbo]

it seems to me connected as the one in the picture, because long cable and a short cable, differ as pedinatura to the connectors?

It seems to me not that they have the same position?
I understand that my photos and poor quality but you capiscariche the sense of the flat..
6866
6865

Or seen your cock a led is red and one is white, and the side near the power supply?

[tidus1985]

yes, red led, but the seller has sold several and they all go, in fact I went quiet, but I do not understand, then the only thing that differiche from the photo my your ? that my has flat short-and long-reversed with respect to your family? change the pin on the connectors in the 2 flat? because the direction of the red mark ? the same

[cinqueturbo]

To me the flat short square in the bottom of your to the ins?..

it seems normal that the e xxx must watch ins??

[carlo abarth]

give me 5 minutes I fell in the workshop and will clear all your doubts!!!

azz!!!!!!!!! the e xxx issued well there another problem ....!!!!see my example!!

but if I was not the e xxx in the center of the you have to put only if you use needles to spring cmd!!! if you need to read you need to use flat and the tool e xxx that you have at the end!!!!have you tried without the e xxx central!!!

[tidus1985]

with spring I tried with and without, with e xxx pin welded only with cmd

[carlo abarth]

tidus l flat are good ..the speech led counts for nothing, and only a question of material that assemblers have on the ground ..example I, the red led on the sky side and I have the green and blue...now I doubt there is a why are parre that that gallo law ....but the resistance l have waived the right one!!! if a offense, forgive me!!!

[tidus1985]

Absolutely no offense sxherZi, yes the one from the schema when you have a pc with all the photos I made while trying to read

[carlo abarth]

tidus could prevail l the assumption that I'm the cock not the law .... if you want to remove the doubts mandamelo that you try!!!

here is my toy-be-working bdm!!!look at the flat!!!( posting this photo it reminds me of an ex-friend, colleague, which face goes with the picture when I read the ecu..peace to his soul)
tidus could prevail l the assumption that I'm the cock not the law .... if you want to remove the doubts mandamelo that you try!!!

[zullo]

here is my toy-be-working bdm!!!look at the flat!!!( posting this photo it reminds me of an ex-friend, colleague, which face goes with the picture when I read the ecu..peace to his soul)

but why? and dead ? this your colleague?

[carlo abarth]

is zullo!!anyway, let's not go ot, we remain in the theme!!!!waiting for the colleague who is able to read this blessed unit m****!!!!

[motorsport]

but why? and dead ? this your colleague?

I'm sorry zullo to me and a dead friend was patient is already dead and buried...

[ugoboss]

to see from the photos the adapter, as he puts it tidus goes well, flat or short lun ghi are the same then nothing changes where you put them, the problem is definitely somewhere else.

[cinqueturbo]

Well I my he said,
and or shown the position of the flat that I use and it works (as in the manual)
now what should our friend who is unable to read a simple Nevertheless, 6f3?

[carlo abarth]

in fact, ugo je said already, the only thing that remains if he has not made false steps, and ke, the cock should not be in the bdm !!!
to see from the photos the adapter, as he puts it tidus goes well, flat or short lun ghi are the same then nothing changes where you put them, the problem is definitely somewhere else.

[crteam]

Tries to make us a detailed video of the whole procedure that you do maybe we can see things clearly if you make mistakes or not

[tidus1985]

Carlo I have it connected exactly like you in the picture, you enter if you don't mind cos? try it, even why? I don't have ir? the 6f3. You in the picture avevibusato adapter for clegare the imentazioni, I suppose, in the desire to say anything.

[tidus1985]

here are the photos in the zip that I made while I was trying to upload, sorry for the mess but after 4 hours of tests to write, I pulled fuorimezza workshop :D

[cinqueturbo]

here are the photos in the zip that I made while I was trying to upload, sorry for the mess but after 4 hours of tests to write, I pulled fuorimezza workshop :D

The e xxx spring-on the contrary.. all? turned to in the behind because

[tidus1985]

here is a video that I had made while he was not going

you I was wrong at the beginning, then I correct the position, I didn't know how to go

[cinqueturbo]

The e xxx spring-on the contrary.. all? turned to the back, why??

I food the ECU with the outlet Ori found by demoman
Pin 50 +
Pin 23 +
Pin 1 -
manual BDM100
6875

But how do you think to turn the video and make photo while you work?
however, to me it always seems to me that the flat and on the contrary...

[carlo abarth]

I don't see anything strange with the exception of the e xxx spring to the contrary then you turned...
for the villager of the pictures you take because maybe you have no friends that you break(break) **** and ask you how to read the ecu that have never made it work..also for the next one!!!(many times, my come to the house to have them when I read them..don't know if you are in a workshop or you are at a wedding))hahahahah!!!they are also in a suit and tie!!!!

[tidus1985]

I had made to see it all to the seller of the cock, that's why :D

now I have no other ecu to try, but if all goes well as links definitely the problem ? the 3.3 or 5v that comes from the bpd, in fact by measuring at the press of the connect button remained 0.8 v and not 3.3 or 5v

[carlo abarth]

he send me only the cock that you can text..my and tired!!!!;)at least you remove all doubt!!!
now I have no other ecu to try, but if all goes well as links definitely the problem ? the 3.3 or 5v that comes from the bpd, in fact by measuring at the press of the connect button remained 0.8 v and not 3.3 or 5v

[crteam]

this video is not seen nothing*****and, says charles, you should send it to someone trusted who can? test and you ? offertyo volunteer.six of dv?

[carlo abarth]

it's the only solution if no here we do a wedding with preview and baptism!!just missing the piano bar, and we are set!!!

[tidus1985]

If you give me your address if you can I send it!!

[tidus1985]

I'm umbro

[carlo abarth]

decide for yourself !!!!for me no problem if I want to send I data address ****!!!
I'm umbro

[tidus1985]

Enter to Charles crteam no offence but it was offered for the first, anyway guys too kind

[ugoboss]

as has already been said, from the pictures you can see that you put the e xxx, countdown and without the adapter, then you pay (we hope that all of the pins did contact) and you have to put the adapter with its flat for me, and rightly so, for me there are supplies in the hotel and you can see if the ones that you need we are, in the end the message that you and the classic when there is not power.

p.s. no offense but the video makes me seasick :-)

[tidus1985]

hahaha no offence ugo!! god forbid!! indeed, I was a bit agitated when I did it I was super active, fain realized that it was afternoon and it was from 10 in the morning cghe I was trying to write it!! now I send it to charles so let's see if ? everything is ok

[crteam]

But I figured no problem

[leandro89]

we try to respect the rules, if we are to be constructive, let's do it in public, insert personal contacts on these discussions, remember that ? prohibited

[ugoboss]

we try to respect the rules, if we are to be constructive, let's do it in public, insert personal contacts on these discussions, remember that ? prohibited

[crteam]

In fact. ..I apologize

[carlo abarth]

I would like to join!!! the colleague needs help, how can we help in this case!!!

[crteam]

I would like to join!!! the colleague needs help, how can we help in this case!!!
ditto I join in

[leandro89]

test a rooster I think is not a very difficult thing, if you explain to the user how to do it, I believe that for you to succeed. Pu? rise to a constructive discussion

[carlo abarth]

leandro but have you read the thread??? there was to get it to work...made mistakes and I we reported ..but does not work at this point, how do you understand and he or the cock???

[tidus1985]

guys thank you very much you are very kind, leandro, I apologize for the data in the public, but the guys try to help me, maybe all forums were like this!
however, the interface match today, the same interface from a friend of mine tested and working perfectly on the first shot from bdm, charles I sent you the e xxx comd and the e xxx marelli, maybe they were the problem!

[carlo abarth]

moral of the story: the 53 that I got works great ...and it was placed under the work!!!!!;)
guys thank you very much you are very kind, leandro, I apologize for the data in the public, but the guys try to help me, maybe all forums were like this!
however, the interface match today, the same interface from a friend of mine tested and working perfectly on the first shot from bdm, charles I sent you the e xxx comd and the e xxx marelli, maybe they were the problem!

[tidus1985]

Excellent carlo thank you very much, Monday? are to take

[carlo abarth]

if you can help it helps!!!!!
Excellent carlo thank you very much, Monday? are to take

[cinqueturbo]

if you can help it helps!!!!!

Carlo then what was the problem?
just to see...

[carlo abarth]

or the link ..... and tremm hand!!!(the tremaa the hand)hahaha

maybe the ecu ..or worse he!!!!

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[leandro89]

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do the same questions in a different post does not increase the number of responses