Exclusion EGR and warm start Leon TDI [Archive]

cawadany

04-09-2012, 14:53

Good morning to all.
Should I close the EGR and solve the problem of hot start on a Leon 2.0 TDI 140.
I am attaching the original file and the modified one, made with carsoft. Can someone tell me the pu? take a look if ? everything ok?
Thanks a lot in advance.

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msport (exil77grande)

04-09-2012, 15:10

from my point of view is not good, the exclusion egr, the warm start,the starter cald and it was done in an exaggerated fashion, and in the points where it is not necessary,and it also was touched also the cold start that you do not need to touch,for the egr and the two cakes to exclude it, you will find a little bit before,we have the screen with the guides to do both things,of course, I suggest you read the rules and regulations so avoid doing unnecessary questions.

magi1984

04-09-2012, 15:28

for the egr according to me would try...in fact, the two cakes are first, to? a test with the change of carsoft it would do :)
for the warm start quoto msport

cawadany

04-09-2012, 16:03

It was only to understand if there you can? trust this sw, but from what I understand no.:(

magi1984

04-09-2012, 16:16

as in all things...it depends on....
I've used it to exclude the egr on a brera 2.4 jtdm from 200cv and, in spite of a change different from the one that I have recommended on the forum, the egr ? excluded properly.
ditto for my bmw 120d 163cv edc16c35, egr excluded correctly with carsoft
then I used it also for some scodifiche...

cawadany

04-09-2012, 17:44

I got to work and I have tried except for the EGR. Try to give a look if it's better. :)

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cawadany

04-09-2012, 18:45

Fixed (hopefully) the warm start. If you can give me a look and let me know if ? ok.:)

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msport (exil77grande)

04-09-2012, 19:51

Fixed (hopefully) the warm start. If you can give me a look and let me know if ? ok.:)

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ok,now the egr is excluded correctly and the resumption of heat seems to be made well and the cold-start and is still the original,you have to do is test avv. hot and in case if you are still struggling a bit by some other little thing-always the way it's made,how ever if you were able to get them you asked for an opinion with the above files made with the carsoft? you did the file or towel they did this last?

cawadany

04-09-2012, 20:21

Why? informing me a moment, I ? come some doubt on the effectiveness of the carsoft, and, in fact, me ? also confirmed here that the file was not really the best. I had never edited a file, and I tried with this. I can assure you that I did.

cawadany

05-09-2012, 14:57

Amazing how carsoft had touched the curves of the start-up! :mad: I believe that starting the car chugged black!

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gorimotors

05-09-2012, 15:23

Just copy the values of the third bend and paste it on the first 2.
The map of cold start (the second), can you? also keep the original, otherwise as soon as you put? bike is avr? always sbuffata black

cawadany

05-09-2012, 15:30

Exact, I have now done so? and short is the feeling of the car.
Also the EGR was not closed correctly, I know, carsoft has touched the curves that I really do not know what's the use of.....

gorimotors

05-09-2012, 15:34

The control of these ecu 2, and in some cases, depending on the hw version 4 or 6!
And to be lowered all...
The bit that touches Carsoftware has nothing to do..

cawadany

05-09-2012, 15:41

So essentially with the change of carsoft the EGR remains com'? from the original? Damage does not?

gorimotors

05-09-2012, 15:43

Honestly I have never tried it why? I don't trust you, but I think of you..

alfajtd

05-09-2012, 15:52

it remains functional

cawadany

05-09-2012, 16:00

The addresses are 0D6072-0D60A6 and 0D60D8-0D610C

In substance, that change has done, cos? for curiosity??

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dvdtuning

05-09-2012, 16:22

That he did not know, but I think it is confused with the edc16 c8 (for shape) and c39 ( for the number of curves) that are similar enough to the egr.

cawadany

05-09-2012, 16:24

That he did not know, but I think it is confused with the edc16 c8 (for shape) and c39 ( for the number of curves) that are similar enough to the egr.

gorimotors

05-09-2012, 16:42

Not s? what are those 2 curves, surely? they have nothing to do with the egr since it remains open

cawadany

05-09-2012, 16:46

Ok, thanks guys! :)

cawadany

12-09-2012, 23:30

I have uploaded the file. ? correct that the duty cycle remains fixed to 96.4%?

cawadany

13-09-2012, 08:17

I am from the PC. I explain better: I made a log with the VAG from the channel 003 and the last value ? the duty cycle of the EGR. The VAG also tells me that the minimum should be between 20 and 70%, while at full load it should stay between 90 and 100%. If I'm not mistaken, at full load, in the original configuration, the EGR should be closed, right? If ? cos?, it means that a duty cycle of 96% is used to indicate the EGR closed.

cawadany

13-09-2012, 22:16

None???

msport (exil77grande)

13-09-2012, 22:18

on the tdi, I never looked in the diagnosis after excluding the egr but on the mjet I remember that it remains a % fisa type 4%.

cawadany

13-09-2012, 22:22

Mmmm, in fact I was expecting a percentage of the genre....

tecnoracing

13-09-2012, 23:03

exact but you should realize on the mass air

cawadany

13-09-2012, 23:07

exact but you should realize on the mass air

The Cio? sorry what do you mean?

tecnoracing

13-09-2012, 23:18

you should have a value of mass air higher if the egr and closed

cawadany

13-09-2012, 23:29

you should have a value of mass air higher if the egr and closed

The one s? given that not allowed? pi? take air from the egr, and then must take everything you need from the intake, with a consequent increase of the given air mass is read from the mass air flow sensor. For? I don't have references with the egr open...

cawadany

14-09-2012, 08:42

The labels of the VAG shows cos? for the duty cycle:

003,4,Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle,Specification (Idle): 20.0...70.0 %\nSpecification (Full Load): 90.0...100.0 %

Then he said that at a minimum must remain between 20% and 70%, and at full load between 90 and 100%. As far as I know the EGR at full load should remain closed, in all the cars. So it means that, with the percentage around 100% the EGR is actually closed.... Or am I wrong?

tecnoracing

14-09-2012, 18:26

absolutely right you have not said that, and remained at approximately 96% fixed would mean that closed !!!

cawadany

14-09-2012, 18:31

absolutely right you have not said that, and remained at approximately 96% fixed would mean that closed !!!

msport (exil77grande)

14-09-2012, 18:52

just recently, I have been able to verify on a golf v 2.0 tdi diagnosis of what he said, and the % egr after having excluded the map, in fact it is at 97% so I would say that it is closed.

cawadany

14-09-2012, 19:05

just recently, I have been able to verify on a golf v 2.0 tdi diagnosis of what he said, and the % egr after having excluded the map, in fact it is at 97% so I would say that it is closed.

Say good! Thanks a lot to all of you!

cawadany

27-09-2012, 09:00

Yesterday evening I saw my friend, the owner of Leon in question, and told me that with this new map that is not part of the pi? well as before, even in cold conditions. Had the mod done with carsoft, which also touches on the curves of the cold start. Maybe carsoft tap and also in order to overcome this drawback????
I saw that time by a little bit of increase on that cold, but it is pi? low compared to carsoft. I took a file that I had with only the egr excluded by me manually, and I applied the mod to start with time. I'm attaching ori and mod. How about if we try this?

msport (exil77grande)

27-09-2012, 09:43

Yesterday evening I saw my friend, the owner of Leon in question, and told me that with this new map that is not part of the pi? well as before, even in cold conditions. Had the mod done with carsoft, which also touches on the curves of the cold start. Maybe carsoft tap and also in order to overcome this drawback????

If she was better before I return it as it was but if we must do the correct things, you are in our system as explained in the guide.

cawadany

27-09-2012, 10:11

If she was better before I return it as it was, however, if we are to make the correct, you are in our system as explained in the guide.

As of now, has the file with the proper start-up as a guide. Maybe he has the starter a bit sluggish and fails to reach a certain no. of the rpm threshold.

msport (exil77grande)

27-09-2012, 13:44

or you simply have to increase other 2-300 points, the same area that now is changed always in the top 3 of the curve.

cawadany

27-09-2012, 13:50

or you simply have to increase other 2-300 points, the same area that now is changed always in the top 3 of the curve.

The question ? that told me that is hard to start even in cold weather. Carsoft had touched the curve of a cold start, and started well, even if sfumacchiava.
Almost as if I try the file is done with the time that I have attached above......

msport (exil77grande)

27-09-2012, 14:18

The question ? that told me that is hard to start even in cold weather. Carsoft had touched the curve of a cold start, and started well, even if sfumacchiava.
Almost as if I try the file is done with the time that I have attached above......

and why not,if you get the chance you should test it, so we well as your experience in the matter,let us know hello.

cawadany

27-09-2012, 14:27

and why not,if you get the chance you should test it, so we well as your experience in the matter,let us know hello.

Prover? what, ? did ir? or less with the style of the carsoft, but being pi? calm with the increments. Maybe some good and not sfumacchia.....

mattycar

27-09-2012, 15:44

if the starter motor works fine and the battery has the cue-optimal,it is also good changing the only map to hot,I do it by hand why? carsoft and time change with too many steps, and at the start it smokes a bit much

cawadany

27-09-2012, 16:01

The battery ? new, probably the starter motor ? a little lackluster. Now I see if it starts better with this new mod with time, however, less increases in map cold, while the hot is the same change of carsoft.

mattycar

27-09-2012, 16:11

when you wait too get out and fix the problem many of the sap to the starter motor or the battery.

cawadany

27-09-2012, 16:15

when you wait too get out and fix the problem many of the sap to the starter motor or the battery.

Very good, have centered in the middle. My friend has just taken used this car. The phenomenon that I had before I don't know how he go around that way. To warm especially departed in a manner which is obscene. And cos? he threw to the ground the battery, the starter, and for me it has damaged a little bit the flywheel.

mattycar

27-09-2012, 17:01

you don't feel intimidated by the fact that(an example of a friend of mine)the audi is asking 400euro for the motor and battery why? according to them the problem ? them.

cawadany

23-11-2012, 16:25

The car in question with the current mod (which I enclose) to a good hot, but cold, some times is hard. From the diagnosis it is not nothing of anomalous. Do you think you can? try to raise a little diesel fuel in the cold start? I would not like to have the starter motor a bit sluggish and maybe helping it a little bit from map to solve the problem.

Ross

23-11-2012, 19:43

If the cold badly, the causes may be different, starting from a drain of the power plant.

rocalci

05-01-2013, 12:09

try to replace the gasket of the fuel filter many times ? she sucks air.....

Team electronics

08-01-2013, 13:51

I believe that the starter motor centers, however, little

Team electronics

08-01-2013, 13:51

maybe you would check the battery in the cold!!!

fabioefra44

16-01-2013, 13:26

cawadany

16-01-2013, 13:45

Update: the car is now okay, and not ? made any changes. It was probably a bit of diesel to the dirt.

Team electronics

27-01-2013, 16:08

unfortunately, I don't really trust much of this soft

lukemon79

13-06-2013, 10:01

Guys, maybe I'm repetitive (in case it means that I understand the thing: -)),?, since they are neophyte and so I have no access to the files on the forum, I'm looking for where are the maps of the warm start. Tell me if I have done bingo, please!
Seat leon 2.0 tdi 140 cv bkd - Sept. 2006 - should be edc16u31.
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lukemon79

13-06-2013, 14:30

Here are the changes that I would like to do on my leon bkd (2006 2.0 tdi 140 hp injector pump)
Warm start:4464
Exclusion EGR:4465
Va bene cos??
P.S.: when I try to save the modified file, the program asks me the file name to save to, and click on the button "register". For? then do not save it. Am I forgetting something or ? the fault of titanium, "not much" original?
I have to do something with the checksum, or by writing with galletto clone 1250 me automatically determines in writing? Thanks for the helpfulness

cawadany

26-07-2013, 09:21

The maps are those. The EGR ? ok, the warm start for? no. You have to raise the first two curves.
Then close the 2d window and him you ask? if you want to save the changes. The from the confirmation and then click on export file (s) modified. And he'll save the file.

lukemon79

26-07-2013, 12:56

cawadany

30-07-2013, 10:54

It's normal, I noticed I this thing.

andrew64

30-07-2013, 13:49

you are closing the egr hear that annoying whistle

cinqueturbo

30-07-2013, 21:42

you are closing the egr hear that annoying whistle

Many times, as well as a problem of geometry dirty...

lukemon79

31-07-2013, 08:55

And to clean up the geometry variable, you have to force unmount the device, right? Or a specific cleaning in the intake system can? help?

lukemon79

31-07-2013, 10:53

On another forum I read the contrary: if the geometry works well, blows the whistle already? by a few laps more than the minimum, and vice versa no. I ask the admin if ? can you post the link to the forum thread the outside.

admin

01-08-2013, 10:51

marcogti

01-08-2013, 12:00

hello, I also encountered the issue of the whistle, even after several tests. I have excluded the water heat exchanger physically.

marcogti

01-08-2013, 12:02