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Hello all as a result of numerous tests that have made the finding that on my body computer output that enables the voltage to the arrow right back on (connector PIN 3) do not throw out the voltage of the driving randomly on the error I'm going to touch a test lamp on (connector And pin 2) and known lampaggiare the lamp that I would have had to wait on (connector PIN 3) which diagram should not have any function enabled, in fact, also on the plug there is no wired no wire .
Now my question is should I be able to try to tour the body computer, providing a fixed voltage (12V) on the F-connector putting to ground (PIN 10 on the connector (C) and (PIN 8 of the connector (D) and simulating the operation of the arrow to the right and then putting on mass (30 PIN connector (B) for more infinite certainty?
if so is it possible to have the circuit of the body computer and found where I divert the voltage on PIN 2?alternatively, do you have any other solutions?
Backgroop
09-01-2014, 20:22
The test bench I see a p? hard you might try, if in the instrument do not have any damage you can connect to a branch arrows on the side or front separating the lines cn appropriate diodes.. have you tried to open the body to check the continuity? of the slopes and if there is some contact, labile to be redone??
The test bench I see a p? hard you might try, if in the instrument do not have any damage you can connect to a branch arrows on the side or front separating the lines cn appropriate diodes.. have you tried to open the body to check the continuity? of the slopes and if there is some contact, labile to be redone??
the body is in front of me already open with the lens I'm looking around to see if I find something damaged, but to follow the circuit and' crazy without the schema . and you can find it somewhere?
Backgroop
09-01-2014, 20:39
The internal schema and difficult to find.. that goes wrong, make a bridge from pin2 to pin3 internally
but the arrows do you know it ??I see two relays but I don't know which of the two is the one that flashes the arrow.
Backgroop
09-01-2014, 21:15
but the arrows do you know it ??I see two relays but I don't know which of the two is the one that flashes the arrow.
the rel? they are both one for the right side and one for the left side it is if I remember correctly, two rel? omron
the rel? they are both one for the right side and one for the left side it is if I remember correctly, two rel? omron
are nec among other things, of different shape close to the F-connector
itama, you should resume of welding I get back to the rel?,most of these defects are solder...
here are the photos of the two relay 6705
itama, you should resume of welding I get back to the rel?,most of these defects are solder...
but the problem is that the other of the right and then the right side, and the right front work and the wiring of the arrow back and tested
the strange thing is that it is the tension of the find on the pin 2, there is nothing between the other
Test cos?! damage don't do it.
Put all the supplies and ground, as in the diagram, to switch on the body. You connect to the diagnostic socket and make diagnosis of the body. If you go into a diagnosis, go to activation and activate the arrow that interests you, and you can see if c'? some rel? that is not v
the relay should I repeat is not only the right rear . the side-works-PIN A22 as the front PIN A39 diagnosis does not detect anything already tried it with the body in lieu of the speech and the printed board and stopped somewhere for sure and not knowing the internal circuit and' how to go truffle hunting without a dog.
but the problem is that the other of the right and then the right side, and the right front work and the wiring of the arrow back and tested
the strange thing is that it is the tension of the find on the pin 2, there is nothing between the other
I'm sorry, but the thread right rear is on pin # 3?
you wire MZ going to F31 ( rear)
in fact, when in doubt, I tried three elearn and all the damage to them .
it is also, for you?
I'm sorry, but the thread right rear is on pin # 3?
here is part of the schema6706
have you tried to give attention to the thread of the arrow to the right rear and see the lights?
have you tried to give attention to the thread of the arrow to the right rear and see the lights?
you already" done but, again missing the output from pin three tested with connector unplugged and the test lamp directly from the output of the body.
but there are no diagrams of these body?
here is part of the schema6706
I'm sorry, itama attachments I can see them but tomorrow you do? know better because I have a body of 147 open...
I'm sorry, itama attachments I can see them but tomorrow you do? know better because I have a body of 147 open...
tomorrow I also do the test at the tour food the ecu, and put it to ground the PIN B30, as in the diagram ( simulating the actuation of the arrow to the right ) should fire one of those two relays flashers and better control pin 3 after the twentieth time :confused: , if you have any news let me know
if you give me the number of body can I check if I have something used.. if I had you I send it.. so do the test if it acts a.. do you know
it is a motorola mc912dg128acpb
check well I managed to fix it on a panda there was a component within burned changed and it works perfectly
check well I managed to fix it on a panda there was a component within burned changed and it works perfectly
I'm putting up with the lens seems to be all intact, the sign of the burn and' perceived?
6707
that stain salmon color has a meaning?
guys to tour found nothing, I find this voltage on pin 2 . someone of you knows how to repair this body ?
giuseppe1374
10-01-2014, 21:43
I'm sorry, but if ? the body replace it do it before
I'm sorry, but if ? the body replace it do it before
replace it in the sense you spend 500 euros ??
advice?
replace it in the sense you spend 500 euros ??
advice?
hello itama,or saw the body ch? I and or given a look, you have to make some welds on the tab of the body on the side sinitro there are components that are easy to ch? you disaldano near there are 2 small rel?......
giuseppe1374
11-01-2014, 16:20
replace in the sense that you take it to collapse for 50 euro and then throw the contents of the e2p micro
motorsport
11-01-2014, 17:20
replace in the sense that you take it to collapse for 50 euro and then throw the contents of the e2p micro
the exact and the best solution!!!!!
the exact and the best solution!!!!!
is the solution to lower the price and that ,always crossing our fingers that the body is in good condition .
aH, one thing just to have inside the chip motorola of my body, or should I watch it?
move the content you intend to unsolder the chip from motorola of my body and put it on the one retrieved from total collapse?
is the solution to lower the price and that ,always crossing our fingers that the body is in good condition .
aH, one thing just to have inside the chip motorola of my body, or should I watch it?
move the content you intend to unsolder the chip from motorola of my body and put it on the one retrieved from total collapse?
itama, you can make a copy I disaldare the eprom and put it on another body.....
what equipment it takes to make the copy?
the desoldering and soldering or hot air????? if you decide to move the chip to
motorsport
11-01-2014, 20:49
upa/x-prog + station with hot air!!:)
upa/x-prog + station with hot air!!:)
then if I move the only motorola just the station hot air right without resorting to
The UPA ?
but the body recovered from the collapse, just to have on my motorola cowboy way, or you have to look for another one?
someone has written that in the zone relay is highlighted in blue can I find something unsoldered but I see everything is ok-controlled lens as you can see, it would seem everything is welded as I understand it, it all seems fixed
SEE ANNEX
6723
then if I move the only motorola just the station hot air right without resorting to
The UPA ?
but the body recovered from the collapse, just to have on my motorola cowboy way, or you have to look for another one?
someone has written that in the zone relay is highlighted in blue can I find something unsoldered but I see everything is ok-controlled lens as you can see, it would seem everything is welded as I understand it, it all seems fixed
SEE ANNEX
6723
you hot air, and a saldtore with the tip of the fina..
giuseppe1374
11-01-2014, 21:31
all depends on your degree of preparation, if you are familiar with soldering, you can switch the micro, but if not, l've never done it yourself, I recommend you do the damage, then the choice is up to you, who shall judge on the basis of your familiarity, what about the reading and writing I see it as a thing feasible, even if not l've never done it with a little help from colleagues in the forum would you be able certainly, the body must be diesel as your and about is also the year of manufacture, if you see it with your own code, go safe, at the end you only have to pass the e2p of the micro-code or keys always depends on what you want to do, I hope this information was useful, in regards to your problem you already have? tried to activate with the diagnosis?
all depends on your degree of preparation, if you are familiar with soldering, you can switch the micro, but if not, l've never done it yourself, I recommend you do the damage, then the choice is up to you, who shall judge on the basis of your familiarity, what about the reading and writing I see it as a thing feasible, even if not l've never done it with a little help from colleagues in the forum would you be able certainly, the body must be diesel as your and about is also the year of manufacture, if you see it with your own code, go safe, at the end you only have to pass the e2p of the micro-code or keys always depends on what you want to do, I hope this information was useful, in regards to your problem you already have? tried to activate with the diagnosis?
About the diagnosis
Made and cares about it all because I the voltage lampeggiantecla found? on the two pin unused
My same code body as it is? Where I identify there are different names is made with the numbers
but this e2p would be another eprom that has nothing to do with the chip motorola oe' the same thing??
also in this e2p what content and how do I read it???.... with the upa??
giuseppe1374
12-01-2014, 11:11
rileggiti my surgery you will find all the answers, it seems to me it is clear that the e2p ? contained in the micro!
the software number ? written out in the body just take the code and you do a search!
last thing I have not told you to make a diagnosis! I told you to turn on the arrow with the diagnosis! maybe if you read carefully what you write
it revenues something.
rileggiti my surgery you will find all the answers, it seems to me it is clear that the e2p ? contained in the micro!
the software number ? written out in the body just take the code and you do a search!
last thing I have not told you to make a diagnosis! I told you to turn on the arrow with the diagnosis! maybe if you read carefully what you write
it revenues something.
hello joseph, the command from the diagnosis I had already? fact, and no error when I run the test switch on the side and the front but the rear no
I repeat, I find the voltage flashing on pin 2 not used directly tested on the body with the connector unplugged when you wrote me this morning, I had already mounted the body on the car from the diagnosis I go to this software.
so I'm going to collapse and I'm looking for a body the same version software 09861010049 and I go quiet?(sorry, once I've written the code body now software.
can you give me the confirmation?
Number drawing FIAT: 51711429000
Number Hardware: 01861080079
Hardware Version: 00
Number Software: 09861010049
Software Version: 0306
Number approval: 000033
Date of planning: 12/02/2002
giuseppe1374
12-01-2014, 22:30
well I said the code body that it goes well and after or said software code for greater compatibility? I hope that this clarification is only for your pi? precise research and not for any sort of clarification, as a rule it's ok to just the hardware code to match 100% with the software, but I've also fitted with hardware and different software and machines are affixed, as the basis, take the body from the breakdown and try it as is ? we must all work except of course, remote control key and the immo and you flash the framework via the proxy, but at least you can test if everything works after that you can go to the next step that you choose according to your need and suitability.
no quiet Joseph ? that are novice enough to go in confusion .
I wanted to ask you since I'm also studying to remap the UPA also does this for the case?
if it is compatible with ecm titanium?
giuseppe1374
12-01-2014, 22:50
the upa does not go for this job as your microprocessor and with safety, you want to xprog or move the micro to the ecm ? a mapping software, and has nothing to do with your problem
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pabloescobar
24-01-2014, 14:26
Would it not be more? easy to put two wires that go on the arrow to the front and side working, and pass them to the rear?
leandro89
24-01-2014, 15:27
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Thanks
it seems the discussion of the right to make this demand? we talk about the alfa 147 and non-fiat grande punto
I apologize, talking about body computer.. Open the discussion in part
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