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giannimini
04-01-2014, 21:52
hi guys and good evening to all.
today I was walking around with a very dear friend with a tt 2.0 tfsi petrol engine of 200 horsepower.
chatting about pi? and the less we arrived at the address the car as always, and he told me that he had the car remapped but that has had many problems in this regard, type ticks strange, etc etc... in short, to be mapped to the machine told you that it was worse that the original.

then, I say, but you have the original files and modified? I said yes, of course. and I do give.

load them on my pc and I try to open them with ecm titanium and 2001.

from the outset I said that the map ? was made at a distance, and they also removed the limiter speed.

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load the file on the pc and I try to open it with ecm titanium, is the proper driver and select, then load the modified map always given to me by him, but nothing... in the column to the right of where you should appear pressure advance and injection I do not see anything....

okay, I say to reinstall ecm titanium, in the meantime, try again to open the 2 files with the ecm 2001.

I select the first 2 driver 2.0 tfsi and you open the map of the turbo and the advance.... and to my amazement I see that all the values in the table in 2d were increased by 25 points. 25 percentage points, loves to just 25 points as the number.... I am talking about the turbo.

in the program I see the other map turbo that there are 2, and the values increased to 25.

pressure limiter idem.

I open then the rev-limiter... what ? set to 110... strange thing is speed? set to ir? of 500 km/h... but I say to you... it will be? the wrong driver...

in addition, all the values of the injection I appear high and non-uniform... if I put the map in 3d seems to be a rocky bottom :-) then I think it is the wrong driver... or at least correct for the management of the turbo (maybe), and wrong for the rest...


and I try to open it with another driver...

this time all the values seem to be homogeneous... limiter set to 7000 and speed? set to 220... but it always seems to me strange as what....

however, I'm going to open the turbo and this time in 3d, it all seems very smooth... but if I'm going to see the gains... ? all to 0...

now I wonder... what have changed in this map? pu? be that they have combined a casino? also the checsum seem different... pu? never be?

pity that I can not post the file hindsight we did take a look...

then I open a file I found on the internet on a forum that I sembvra quite as serious as this that does not need to be utentio vip to download the file and I took a file of tt 200 hp or 210 I don't remember... this time titanium me the law. and appear many pi? values of 2001....

the ecu if I'm not mistaken ? read with mpps v5

I hope I illuminiate about it... the mechanic ? my friend who did the ecu but I would like to know if everything is there? ? normal or have I done wrong to caricargli the map wrong or hurt... why? if ? so I go to the eccanico that maybe he considers the preparer in the distance a monster instead ?... or for the less ? a monster of power units of washing machines.

thanks to everyone, for the help I hope to answer many... ps I attach a screen of the map if they bother you, tell me and them remove it immediately ;-)

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ps, I see that the file to me makes them load. if you want to and if I can I would like to post it to make a look. tell me what to do, and in case you spot them before I go to bed... now I'm leaving

ugoboss
04-01-2014, 22:02
if places them there we can take a look, have you tried to watch it in 2d.

carmageddon
04-01-2014, 22:05
to begin to understand the why? the car is worse to be changed ? need to have the modified file to check...the average increase for these engines ? 50-60 hp more? without any problem of the reliability

giannimini
04-01-2014, 22:28
guys here is the files are in the rar. from the original 2mb rar-1.35

give it a look I'm going from him so I read the thread

good evening guys and thanks. :)

carmageddon
04-01-2014, 22:37
mammamia!

return it the original ? a disaster!

not c ? it knowledge and consciousness.

legendaryslave
04-01-2014, 22:43
mammamia!

return it the original ? a disaster!

not c ? it knowledge and consciousness.

my mom that ? he knows stuff I

frantik3
04-01-2014, 22:44
mammamia!

return it the original ? a disaster!

not c ? it knowledge and consciousness.


quoto full and I confirm that these people think they can work on the diesel, but here we are talking about gasoline, but not of them would even put their hands on a diesel from this guy

ugoboss
04-01-2014, 23:00
in my humble opinion, does not make sense, this mapping.

giannimini
04-01-2014, 23:02
but at least the original file, And he or not ?
arrived to this point I have doubts even about this.

with ecm 2001 saw the driver I found, even if the speed? the maximum remains at 220... I could send a little more gas and increase a bit the turbo?

on what parameters would you recommend for me to hack?

my friend gave me the white paper, I would like to do p? practice on this.

I thought I had to increase the values of a 10 x 100 percentage, the values of the injection and the turbo starting at 2500-3000 rpm's go up and change the map in 2d and then open it in 3d and see if the curve ? half-homogeneous...

since this is a map and a disatro and the car still turns on, I don't think I combine damage.

ps; the patter to a minimum can? be that due to the fact that of the 25 points in pi? turbo all the spins contribute to the beating of the machine in the head to a minimum? or nothing to do with it?

ps2 you could send me a modified file to you to test it? I would be really very grateful to you, in pvt, I'm willing to give you the **** and all of them, even if you want to do it.

thanks again for all the responses. I wish you happy holidays
gianni

ps, if you want I send you the file that I found on the internet of the other tt that opens with titanium,,,, pero I don't understand why? the file of my friend I can open it only with the 2001.... can I caricargli this that I found on the internet? you can check the compatibility? if the place?

are in your hands, any advice ? very much appreciated, if you have the desire and the time to advise me I am really grateful to you, for this map my friend has paid if I can make it to half-discrete I would be really very, very happy, and I thank you very, very much.

carmageddon
04-01-2014, 23:09
the original file ? good.

forget about ecm and any other program that does not support the damos for the information you are completely wrong and not out of any logic!

to go with this engine ? required knowledge and not advice on what to change.

the map ? a disaster ? would not even be kept on the pc, if you accept advice return it to the original and in the care of someone of valid and that you know what to do for this engine.

don't miss out on the changes to try and why? if you don't know what to do it takes very little to damage it!

ugoboss
04-01-2014, 23:14
but at least the original file, And he or not ?
arrived to this point I have doubts even about this.

with ecm 2001 saw the driver I found, even if the speed? the maximum remains at 220... I could send a little more gas and increase a bit the turbo?

on what parameters would you recommend for me to hack?

my friend gave me the white paper, I would like to do p? practice on this.

I thought I had to increase the values of a 10 x 100 percentage, the values of the injection and the turbo starting at 2500-3000 rpm's go up and change the map in 2d and then open it in 3d and see if the curve ? half-homogeneous...

since this is a map and a disatro and the car still turns on, I don't think I combine damage.

ps; the patter to a minimum can? be that due to the fact that of the 25 points in pi? turbo all the spins contribute to the beating of the machine in the head to a minimum? or nothing to do with it?

ps2 you could send me a modified file to you to test it? I would be really very grateful to you, in pvt, I'm willing to give you the **** and all of them, even if you want to do it.

thanks again for all the responses. I wish you happy holidays
gianni

follow the advice of carmageddon, not the machine to do experiments here do big damage.

carmageddon
04-01-2014, 23:24
the original file ? good.

forget about ecm and any other program that does not support the damos for the information you are completely wrong and not out of any logic!

to go with this engine ? required knowledge and not advice on what to change.

the map ? a disaster ? would not even be kept on the pc, if you accept advice return it to the original and in the care of someone of valid and that you know what to do for this engine.

don't miss out on the changes to try and why? if you don't know what to do it takes very little to damage it!

I quote from only for spelling errors, help!

the correct sentence ? this : forget about the ecm and any other program that supports the damos why? the information is completely wrong and out of any logic

giannimini
04-01-2014, 23:48
With Winols for example, I may open it is the ecu ?

Program damos what do you mean? You name a few of the software readily available on the net?

In addition, as ever you are speaking evil of ecm titanium, do not use all of this? It makes me open the map and see all the correct values in 2001, if I proceed as I increase the fuel injection and turbo should I not true improvement? Of course I am talking about small changes in percentages exaggerated.

Thanks again, however, you have answered

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 00:08
the damos are informational packets associated with each of the ecu and in which there are all the information and technical data in order to understand how it really works a ecu.
ecm ? the worst and more? needless to existing program to understand how it works a ecu...let him lose.
as I have already? written does not make attempts and entrusted to an expert

motorsport
05-01-2014, 00:20
Quote,if you are not in the knowledge base of this unit and what is the mod with the sw you make us very little!!

giannimini
05-01-2014, 05:30
I realized okay guys, here we are. But then the alientech that sells them to make this software? I think it is a serious company. If it conmercio a software that opens the ecu handles, values, and the tables at the end are true, and allows you to modify the parameters in the... at The end does not do his job? Why? there is, then I'm software, and many here use it as well.

After which? I don't want to put it, or pretending to make out 250 horsepower from the engine of my friend, but maybe try to slightly increase the parameters which can be touched without damage.

I am talking about small differences.

Winols I have the chance? to try it, but I do not know to have to find the damons, there is a guide on the internet?

Ecm instead ? fairly intuitive. If I catch the right driver on ecm 2001 and I try to modify a bit the beginning putting on a 10x100 and thereby increasing the pressure of a 10 or 5 x 100 they do damage?

This I wanted to know. I would like to act as I have said before, from the met? the table and drop down in the lower right. For both tables.

Before loading the file in the machine of course, I would like to publish it here. If you do not tell me to upload it obviously did not load.

But at least the file that I posted ? the original real or not?

Tomorrow I prepare it, if you tell me that there seems to be fairly good and worth to try it, do it, otherwise I give up.

Thanks again for the tips

Gianni

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 09:50
there? that can't you understand ? that ecm, cos? as such, not in the if conversion factors are real why? based on the fantasy of people who have studied with the sole need? to make the change and not with the need? do really understand what you are touching (the names of the maps, conversion factors for values of output, conversion factors for the axes, switches, logic, etc, etc).
if you do not know the control strategy and the reasoning of each ecu that you want to face ? better to rely on experts.

giannimini
05-01-2014, 10:55
Hello carmagheddon and thanks again for responding.

There? that interests me ? change the map precisely. For now, I want to start cos?.

I do not care to go to study 100 books or me courses, I'm starting to passion and purpose to make a buck, then I don't feel the need? going to understand how it works, every bit of the map, I have capto what you mean, but to start, I can't take a cock from 200 euro, and learn giga and giga PDF.



Returning to the speech ecu a guy with Map 2000 and ecm 2001 has changed. For this, I insisted.

Returning to the speech of my friend, if I put the ile that I found on the internet ? compatible or not? Eventually the ecm will that, having regard to that titanium open it up and I appear a lot of values, sure the driver will be? good point, and I could change that file. What do you say?

Os sorry for the spelling errors in the previous post, but I had the keyboard route from the pc from which I wrote :-)

ugoboss
05-01-2014, 11:16
you need to work on the original file, the one you posted together with the amended and the original? if it works that if you really want to try, you say that you are not interested, trying hard 100 books or courses, that you do it for passion, but if you block a control unit or, even worse, take out a piston, then the passion will pass, I repeat, is not the right machine to do experiments, then do what you think.

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 11:46
Hello carmagheddon and thanks again for responding.

There? that interests me ? change the map precisely. For now, I want to start cos?.

I do not care to go to study 100 books or me courses, I'm starting to passion and purpose to make a buck, then I don't feel the need? going to understand how it works, every bit of the map, I have capto what you mean, but to start, I can't take a cock from 200 euro, and learn giga and giga PDF.



Returning to the speech ecu a guy with Map 2000 and ecm 2001 has changed. For this, I insisted.

Returning to the speech of my friend, if I put the ile that I found on the internet ? compatible or not? Eventually the ecm will that, having regard to that titanium open it up and I appear a lot of values, sure the driver will be? good point, and I could change that file. What do you say?

Os sorry for the spelling errors in the previous post, but I had the keyboard route from the pc from which I wrote :-)

for your bad luck parties with the wrong foot, ? how to build a house starting from the roof.
before you want to the foundations, then the load-bearing walls, then the stramezze and all the rest.
for your end ? the same thing and then I'll answer you with a question : do you want a job done ad hoc or do you want to do experiments?
I would look at the good from the experiment with the things of others, better to leave aside the presumption and the desire to do to leave the place with an expert who will do a job with full knowledge of the cause.
the programs used do not text, to make the difference ? only knowledge and experience, you can also use wingal 32 or a hex editor you want, but with the knowledge to make a good and proper job as without knowledge you can also use the bible, but if you have not studied not c ? how to do a correct job!

for the last time : let it go there? that says ecm!

giannimini
05-01-2014, 13:43
ok carmageddon okay. so what do you advise me to do? I told you that I also winols, and I'm also recovering the damos to read the ecu of the tfsi tt...
you on what to agiresti to improve it? advances?turbo pressure? the injectors?

in short, I want to learn, then if you tell me that you want me to map for a fee we can? you also have to be why? you are an expert and this is not doubt it, but capiscimi, I want to learn, and if you are writing here ? precisely for this reason. ? my dream to work with the power units and engines in general, now that I have a friend willing to let me do the tests, I want to experience.

I know it's not ? a multijet it is a turbo diesel , and that those should be even with little knowledge.

but if, perhaps, I will give you some tips in addition to tell me to leave perderem really, I would be very happy.

if not then you should ? another thing, I respect your knowledge and I don't want to sminuirtele absolutely.

for? try to understand me ;-)

thanks again.

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 14:29
reasons in a superficial way, and with the presumption in respect of the editing work and the world of chiptuning, both diesel and petrol gas and another to be faced with the knowledge and dedication, and not with the programs and that's it.

I do these engines change completely the logic of control to get there? the motor I can? give, doesn't it ? only a matter of objective maps, but real logic.

there? you want to learn for this car, as for the other, it goes through the steps of knowledge and experience in concrete and non-transferable in two sentences on the web.

giannimini
05-01-2014, 14:54
How to completely change management are all ears, are not conceited, I just want to learn as I also believe you when you started with this world to call you.

How to proceed? Unknown, the lambda probes work to map fixed? Disable the autoadattivita? In short, how to proceed, what software do you use?

I mean, you can give some tips to me and to anyone who reads on this world? I'm not cocky, I just want to learn, I signed up here for this, senn? I continued to do my job.

A map of a diesel is made in 5 minutes having the programs and the wire to the right, you increase the pressure of the Rail, and ? made. I know that this ? complicated, but as I told myself before I don't want to give him 50 horses, only a bit of power and panache in pi?. If it has not melted on the engine with the map that has on it now I don't think the anchor with one made with a minimum of the criterion in pi?.

After which? I'm sorry that you think that they are cocky, why? not ? cos? ;-) really, perhaps on the basis of how I write pu? seem so but I just want to learn.

If you could describe how to do you work in these units I would like.

So far you've only said that I could but you have not written a line about turbo injection advances, or what else ;-)

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 15:18
I wrote that you ask so presumptuous in the face of this ecu and the work of chiptuner and not that you're presumptuous to 360 degrees...make sense ? explained with the phrase on the diesel, in which you wrote that just a little to make them go into the substance! wrong, even on diesel, as well as all the work is to be done ? required knowledge and experience and not the programs!

for the discussion on how and what to do, I can't write anything ? my work and not disperdo the time of the study employed the money to acquire experience and knowledge...I have already? written that it does not ? the question of objective maps, but real logic!

you do not fossilize to the program you use, you agree to the council and ask for an expert to obtain a satisfactory result, and above all correct...not that crap that they have done!

giannimini
05-01-2014, 16:03
Ok carmagheddon respect your work and I understand that you don't want to write it here.

I impegner? then to find someone serious for the remap.

Today I spoke with a friend that this seems prepared, is a rally car and ? a preparer.

When I have some news? will update.

With regard to this ecu if you have news? and you want to contact me, even for a fee I would be happy that I illustrassi better.

Indeed, his forum c'? a section where I can send the file and mandarmene modified one good?

carmageddon
05-01-2014, 16:26
carmageddon is written without the H

I don't understand, is that news? I should have on this ecu?

you'll if you will be in good hands.

there you can? contact with pm ? forbidden, even if I don't understand why

giannimini
05-01-2014, 16:58
Hello and t9!of the iphone that sometimes mistaken okay without the h.

However, on the turbo petrol if sinaumenta a bit of imiezione of petrol and a bit of turbo already? small improvements, you should have

I am contacting various preparatory serious. Let's see what comes out.

Who it seems to me the most? prepared avr? the work.

Hello to all

giannimini
06-01-2014, 01:06
However, the original file ? what why? I have compared it with that of an Audi A3, and the values are the same. Even if the file of the a3 titanium opens it while 2001 no.

However, you tell me why? does not open titanium?

Then the map of the turbo has values that fall lan hand that opens the value of the load and rpm in the map of the tt to my friend, while if I open the map of the tt outlet on the internet the values go up as it would be right?

? the values in question do you have to change in an inverse manner to obtain pi? turbo pressure or injection? There ? ever happened to you?

I say this only for information purposes, I don't want to change it.
Evil try to open the map with 2001 see it. In regard to you with titanium you open?

ugoboss
06-01-2014, 08:31
my tita your file ori opens and recognizes safely, then you have a problem on your own, you can not compare the maps of two different cars, in and for itself, the map tells you just need to see how the work of the management of that map, for what I told you, that you should always work with his gold, any car or the ecu to talk about.

msport (exil77grande)
06-01-2014, 11:00
carmageddon is written without the H

there you can? contact with pm ? forbidden, even if I don't understand why?

simple,this forum we have created for our passion and not for your best interests, therefore, who wants to write something or to help someone you can do it in public for all the rest, and without any obligation or contact by pm as you are used to the trove, there is the online service of the forum.

carmageddon
06-01-2014, 11:09
I want to clarify that my interest is not them I seek on the forum and sometimes I'm a direct consequence of this, if so? it was not I contacted all the forums in which I participate, with the sole desire to help if I can, asking you to expose you to payment to my advertising? or other ways to enhance my work.
I have always refused to collaborations for a fee/advertising?, my work and trust that my colleagues have towards me, and I in them, ? there? I care more?.

:-)

one other thing, why? I have deleted the message without an explanation it private, and public?

giannimini
06-01-2014, 16:15
Goes well with the titanium map open you from always graphics, turbo and injection that go down? Or to be correct the chart. Why? I have the impression that the driver provided? open the map properly does not give all the values or you can indicate it to us in a different way than they are.

Can you post a acreen of the open map? On the charts injection and turbo?

To start I would like to try your own with those...

Ps: the graph of the A3 2.0 and its open maps with ecm match both in the turbo that in the beginning.

Another thing, opening the map and changing it in various successive steps, a life for the turbo and a fly for the injection they do damage? Why? a driver seems to open the turbo... another injection, limiters, etc...

For carmageddon. The you that you are registered in other forums and it seems that you are prepared and want to help others ;-) then do paid or free, these are none of your business, or search the forum for you to advertising?. However, who would be near me that I could make a good map?

I opened winOls but ? a casino,(maybe it only works with xp), while map3d can't find it.

carmageddon
06-01-2014, 16:24
there are employees that I may be considered valid and connoisseurs of this ecu, copy all from those doing development...I have no advice to give you on contacts in sicily.

if you wanted to get me advertising? on the forum I would like to become a sponsor, my advertising? are my work and the trust I have in people I work with and them in me.

let loose of the objective maps, not ? possible to have a correct logic if you don't know the control strategy, the power comes from the editing complete, and not from the turbo or fuel injection or advance

giannimini
07-01-2014, 13:16
hello guys, the car with the ecu the original one poo, while with the file that you say is not good, it goes to a sliver, and ? been inserted also in other tt engine with dsg and to be a wonder, since you have told me that not ? well done could you point me to the thread and sign what? that's not good in this file? why? the mechanic took me for a madman, considering that we are also good friends, and ? trust, I would like to avoid to have ugly figures with him.

then please tell me kindly what should not be in the file if you want to, why? rightly being new to the industry, I don't know what to say.

thanks again for the helpfulness? look your answer

carmageddon
07-01-2014, 13:24
go to a sliver, as you say, it does not mean that everything is working correctly...on the contrary.
I can assure you that ? crazy who made that edit without sense!

giannimini
07-01-2014, 14:25
okay, tell me what are the problems of that map, and things that should not be.
I don't want to know why? do not go to, but just what are the wrong values.
I want to know only this, if maybe you would be so kind to indicarmelo, what ? to say that it's not okay, another indicate why?.

understanding there raccapeziamo more, if I have to go to my mechanic to make a complaint tralaltro for the car of a friend, the mechanic ? well my friend, I can tell you only that it's not okay, but I have to explain to him the why?.

my mechanic has the transparency to 1000 x 1000, and makes me speak with her trainer without any problems.

I believe in your professionalism but to doubt that of others, you must give me a reason.

do not take it, ? just to make things clear and understand what is wrong in that map, if you tell me only that does not go I will not conclude anything and I can't clarify anything to my mechanic and friend, I am only taken for a fool.

cawadany
07-01-2014, 14:38
In the first post you wrote that to be mapped was worse that the original. Now you write that ? a rocket with the mod file. Mah........

carmageddon
07-01-2014, 14:40
as I have already? written not just 4 lines on a forum to explain the logic of control and to understand us? that does not work, too long.
unfortunately, and without any offense, you do not have mastery of this work and not speaking the same language (technical in this case), I don ? can you clarify what is wrong...especially on the web.
I know that if you start you can? never have the knowledge but I am very limited in the interaction web

giannimini
07-01-2014, 21:47
Has I understand okay carmageddon. You haven't mastered. Ok

However, with regard to the speech map was wrong with the first tests, putting the ile ori. It's bad compared to what it has on it for now.

However, as the machine of a friend if you can help me to fix the thing and you feel ok, after which? bothered me a little receive the same answers. In 4 pages of discussion I Still don't understand what's wrong in this file.

The Cio? how do I tell the mechanic dare not go? If the sputtano the work I want to know dares to speak.

What is wrong with this map then ? lawful to know it or not? Excuse me if I seem nasty but I'm a bit stubborn and I like to understand things

Thank you good evening

carmageddon
07-01-2014, 22:14
read carefully, I wrote that YOU do not have mastery of the craft (no offense)

I'm sorry not to be able to help, if we had been close l would like it...and then you could enjoy cos ? really capable this engine!

giannimini
07-01-2014, 23:39
But in fact I have written that you have no mastery with the website in describing what c'? wrong in the ecu. Even if it seems strange to me since you write that you are the computer. However, I do not care, I understand that you do not want to help me, and the accent easily, it bothers me the fact that you said you have the map ? a sewer and do not want to explain the why?.

If you want to help me send me a modified file to you and if the car goes better com'? for now you page? as you want.

I'm sorry if I answer in this tone, but honestly, I dont like to be offended ;-)

I have put the file on the forum to comment on it and explain what you have that isn't pe do so rubbish at the sight of all, and then I maybe write what should not be in addition to the address that I can not do it.

You said that the ecm is nothing, but in another discussion on another forum I saw that I said I needed, but was only a few map.

You have always said in that discussion that to increase the gasoline by improvements in ir? that increase the turbo, whereas here, you said that even if increases in the gasoline does not, I conclude, nothing, but an excuse then what is a forum?

I wrote that I was not interested to give 50 hp to this engine but just improve it a bit, but since from what I understood here also the counsel must be paid for so I guess that make? my own head, as I have always done, or at least not keep? into consideration there? you wrote why? so far I do not ? served to anything.

Thank you for your helpfulness? anyway.

I apologize with the moderators of the spelling errors but I write with a cell phone, I ask you to please limit yourself if you are not difficult to adhere to, that he wants this discussion, i.e. comment on the file that I posted, not only for me but for all the people that like how they try to learn something.

carmageddon
08-01-2014, 08:39
parts with the wrong foot, you don't have to discredit any work of others ? the question of professionalism? both your vis-à-vis the work of others who have done this work, have you tried the comment and seen this ? my work, I gave my comment...if you feel that the car goes well and best to you no one tells you that you need to change the work, you've seen the difference, and then you have drawn your conclusions, even if I don't understand how you can assess a job, not having the technical knowledge.
if the owner complains of the problems has two alternatives : come back to who has done, and expose his complaints or not to go back there and try another one to see if ? possible to have an ad hoc work....but the problem with that ? of the owner of the car, and not your...even if ? your friend.
I am in charge of developing information on the engine management and diagnosis, and these information are intended to change real files to be part of the trainers so I can show without problems that anyone who has done the job wrong...but not on a forum why? not ? possible.

I close here

alfajtd
08-01-2014, 08:47
all the increases have been in a bad way...
of course, understand the why? were given in addition to the way you have to have a p? of experience and knowledge on that motor and the ecu...

I suggest you put it to use, however, the original...

after which? begins to studiartela... you definitely need to take courses...

alfajtd
08-01-2014, 09:52
but who is it f??
certainly one competent in the area... as a minimum...
if not c'?? that f??
pay any one? and if not then it's okay? certainly not the you can? say take the car and get 1300 km as a minimum...

therefore, or leave it original or since c'? the service of the forum not ch? I think they compaesanei can follow... and definitely the solution arrives...

cawadany
08-01-2014, 10:02
I can only say that on these cars is not to be trifled with. And there are few who know to go as it should.
PS. I have a Golf V GTI that fits the same identical engine of this TT.

carmageddon
08-01-2014, 10:05
but who is it f??
certainly one competent in the area... as a minimum...
if not c'?? that f??
pay any one? and if not then it's okay? certainly not the you can? say take the car and get 1300 km as a minimum...

therefore, or leave it original or since c'? the service of the forum not ch? I think they compaesanei can follow... and definitely the solution arrives...

I was referring to your statement about the revo.
to him I have already? clear what would be the right thing to do but according to my point of view he wants the solution to be advertising?...why? the work of others must always be respected, if you don't like go by someone else...but of course c ? that l car ? of his friend and not his, then in the first instance ? her friend should worry about their own car (even if according to me ? happy with how that goes).
I believe that to gianni, in good faith, it is put in the middle to achieve two purposes : place l car of a friend and have a map ready for use with the logic developed very well and ready to copy paste to other ecus equal to that...but the speech ? (And I SPEAK ONLY OF MYSELF) that I do not gift anything to anyone, as all in their work, files and information, I would go against my co-workers and colleagues, and to us? in the time I built.

carmageddon
08-01-2014, 10:06
I can only say that on these cars is not to be trifled with. And there are few who know to go as it should.
PS. I have a Golf V GTI that fits the same identical engine of this TT.

the speech ? pi? generic, not scherzza with the cars of others, that is a punto 1.2 8v rather than a porsche or a unimog

giannimini
09-01-2014, 01:54
carmagheddon tell me what do you think of this file. I changed me this time. hahaha already? I imagine your face when the open it.
ps open it all and tell me how and if you like ask me anything

and then u else, why? I do not download the attachments as well if I have 55 posts? the limit was 50?

ugoboss
09-01-2014, 07:17
and then u else, why? I do not download the attachments as well if I have 55 posts? the limit was 50?

the limit is 80

I had not seen your map, if you're joking laugh, but if you serious about you, I say leave it alone.

carmageddon
09-01-2014, 08:04
ugo ? a joke surely!

we fly with the comments

gianni, I do understand that you want to do the change but without knowledge does not go anywhere, put your heart in peace, and do I work, who can? do without problems...already? that would be a good base why? there you may study (if done by someone who has knowledge of the facts, of course why? the file did your friend previously that you can't? learn nothing)

no offense

giannimini
09-01-2014, 12:49
hahaha ok carmageddon. then the one posted by me in the post above does not ? good either?
why? I have seen among the various guides in the multijet change the curves of the turbo and the injection that way. from the met? map.
I know that ? your work and don't want to give information about it, but gi? I'm fine if you say that is not to be....
according to you, work in a similar way on a multijet for example can? lead to improvements?

in the dvd that I have recovered, there are different maps ori and mod, and those of the mod, have been designed according to these same principles.

the theory, at least, I think it is right, then it remains questionable, the address increments, and how much to increase as a percentage of the values, but I confirm that increase in the percentage to be met? the map then is correct? or for the less acceptable?

carmageddon
09-01-2014, 13:11
not ? it correct and acceptable!

why? you want to insist on doing something that you are not familiar with the risk of doing damage?

you do not have knowledge of the facts, and if you don't do some expert work you can never even remotely understand what ? need to do.

giannimini
09-01-2014, 16:51
hello carmageddon. you continue to tell me to go to a professional, ok, what can? stay. but if you are not sure of the professionalism? of the work, with what the comparison to the file that they send me? with another slaughter?

the firms range for the abt audi are, and some other Italian I know that ? famous ferraris and shad.... the rest I don't know them.

but as the price for their map ? exorbitant, I can't deal with all these money just to get to know the com'? made a map to duty.

even why? if the corners are out of the driver, I will appear? no increase by opening the map with titanium and 2001. winols does not work for me then? what do I do?

to secure a map as ok on my machine maybe one day I to do?... but since I have to open the ecu to do it so I guess that lascier? lose on my car.

said there? given that nuon you want to answer me to my question, that is ? right to increase the values to be met? map to always climb if the drivers are correct) I gather that it is correct, as I thought, and I impegner? for studying each other on, even why? I opened another post and will try? my answers elsewhere.

indeed, why? not places you a file with slight increases and by the foundation for power work?

oper least indicate the addresses in 2d, which are the maps, for example, fuel injection and turbo... maybe so I'm going to change these curves and give me some tips.

I don't want to make the map, but as a forum to give advice, I think you can do this no?

carmageddon
09-01-2014, 17:11
you don't have to compare anything, you don't have technical knowledge to be able to do that, do you understand that or not?

the trader must ensure that the work technically, but if you don't have technical knowledge to verify what ? been done I do not think that you will understand a lot.

without any presumption, I can tell you that I have no problems to do it with closed eyes the work on this car, but the experience and the service is not free.
my work in this sense ? guaranteed in terms of performance and reliability? (assuming that the car is in perfect condition, of course, what is not verifiable without opening the engine or check the electronics on board, even if it had 0 miles)

the technique of****metro, like the vespa fans used to say, ? valid why? the difference in power delivery and torque ? abysmal...if you're not/you just need to do this, you can choose a test bench and verify.

my advice to you, l I have now written too many times.

cawadany
09-01-2014, 17:19
hello carmageddon. you continue to tell me to go to a professional, ok, what can? stay. but if you are not sure of the professionalism? of the work, with what the comparison to the file that they send me? with another slaughter?

the firms range for the abt audi are, and some other Italian I know that ? famous ferraris and shad.... the rest I don't know them.

but as the price for their map ? exorbitant, I can't deal with all these money just to get to know the com'? made a map to duty.

even why? if the corners are out of the driver, I will appear? no increase by opening the map with titanium and 2001. winols does not work for me then? what do I do?

to secure a map as ok on my machine maybe one day I to do?... but since I have to open the ecu to do it so I guess that lascier? lose on my car.

said there? given that nuon you want to answer me to my question, that is ? right to increase the values to be met? map to always climb if the drivers are correct) I gather that it is correct, as I thought, and I impegner? for studying each other on, even why? I opened another post and will try? my answers elsewhere.

indeed, why? not places you a file with slight increases and by the foundation for power work?

oper least indicate the addresses in 2d, which are the maps, for example, fuel injection and turbo... maybe so I'm going to change these curves and give me some tips.

I don't want to make the map, but as a forum to give advice, I think you can do this no?

I can assure you that you understand the changes to a map made ad hoc on this engine ? almost impossible for a beginner, especially using ecm, given that several changes are out of the driver.
So if you want to see this car go as it should, put your heart at peace and in the care of a trainer seriously. I tell you now, given that we are past too.

msport (exil77grande)
09-01-2014, 23:22
I cleaned up the discussion from several off topic, and I also wanted to mention that in this forum we do not advertise to anyone so we avoid certain spam, in sicily, there are people prepared, just search for them if some are still not convinced of relying only on those who made a name for himself when the machines did not even have the ecu and electronics do not understand a pipe then the discussion changes,on this management, we have made several developments and it is very difficult to understand their operation and then to pay or not to pay is not the point but a rincipiante can not leave this car for 1000 reasons to do experiments, but I can say that with a map made with the right criteria, you can easily reach 35cv as a base.
ps: we are to page no 6 and up to now I have read 30 posts with the same answers, so those who do not want to intervene technically is not obliged, but we try not to use the keyboard only to write who is the most long so we avoid unnecessary interventions.

carmageddon
10-01-2014, 08:05
there are 6 pages of tips go to have it done by a professional and to let go of, but if ? stubborn, does not want to understand, and has little umilt? I don't do anything.
if I'm allowed to write that I can do it with your eyes closed ? just because you? from when I dropped out of these engines I have dedicated important developments for both the electronics and the engine, but without any presumption, l I have written, don't get me wrong please.
I know perfectly who is working with criterion on these engines and who has studied simply because? over the years, the we have made hand in hand.
I don't care who the ec has more? long, but just that you understand the difference between a person of the craft, working with an informed and amateur/non-professional...and especially that you enjoy to do esperiemnti with the things of others just for their own desire to learn, often they do damage.

msport (exil77grande)
10-01-2014, 09:32
ok I will close here.