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Omt
28-12-2013, 02:33
Hi guys, I do not know if ? correct to post this question in this area of the forum...anyway I ask those maybe ? tune info on revision power steering-electric.
I would like to expand my shop with this service, but I have no idea where to start. C'? someone who can? give advice? Just replace the torque sensors, and adjust them with the right-angle holder?
I apologize to the moderators if ? the wrong section.
Greetings

Already
28-12-2013, 11:46
Just replace the torque sensors, and adjust them with the bush?


Here I would have something to say. How ? can that many people at the mountain sti benedetti torque sensors without the right-angle holder ( I say that c'? a method) and goes to good?

I have not ever put to replace the sti sensors why? I knew that it was necessary for the bush, but talking with colleagues, I discovered that all of them replace, and 10, only 1 has a right-angle holder. Then I s? who doesn't ? just cos? need!

dvdtuning
28-12-2013, 13:19
Exact, in the workshop that followed, I saw many times to change the torque sensor on the fiat group without the use of the holder device.

motorsport
28-12-2013, 13:31
in fact, you can? change without bush,can you? do the tour I have on the car,you just need to know the correct procedure!!

yannsaba
28-12-2013, 23:44
For sensor steering angle following the procedure that applies, among other things, pretty trivial, it does so without the centralizing, doing alignment after the diagnosis. The centralizing leaves a p? the time it is seen that c'? also the card holder to mount it...

legendaryslave
29-12-2013, 00:00
when the mountains are always out of focus, it just centragli with the diagnosis, made the procedure more times I never had problems only on an opel I had to repeat 3-4 times and then took it, and' the dignosi that tells you where it is zero,

Omt
29-12-2013, 00:23
My brain bee, and delphi does not... will be? now rottamarle?.? You use the texa?

carlo abarth
29-12-2013, 00:45
bosch makes them'!!

blackwolf76
29-12-2013, 01:34
I have had many a fiat punto and the panda the only sensor. Just have to mount it with the lock, and then center with a diagnosis once assembled it all. Use bosch and I have never had any problem, if not some of the time that you just put into motion the steering wheel turns at the end of the race only; it is enough that someone holds it and in the meantime you reset with the diagnosis.

Omt
29-12-2013, 09:50
Great advice... Good to know! Thanks to all

cinqueturbo
29-12-2013, 11:11
I have had many a fiat punto and the panda the only sensor. Just have to mount it with the lock, and then center with a diagnosis once assembled it all. Use bosch and I have never had any problem, if not some of the time that you just put into motion the steering wheel turns at the end of the race only; it is enough that someone holds it and in the meantime you reset with the diagnosis.

that someone who should maintain the steering wheel to the need of two beautiful arms ;)
attentive to the arts...
I would not like to put his hand in the middle of the steering wheel, when does that flaw...

motorsport
29-12-2013, 11:27
My brain bee, and delphi does not... will be? now rottamarle?.? You use the texa?

Texa and autocom is fine....

explode82
29-12-2013, 13:13
I did this with autocom on a great point with the 2013 version if puoesserti help

Tinturia
29-12-2013, 13:13
Quoto diagnosis without bush. Sometimes, for?, for example me ? happened on Paragraph 188, ? the starter motor and just replace the rel

Already
29-12-2013, 14:26
Let me know!. In diagnosis, read the steering angle or the pair?

159sportwagon
29-12-2013, 14:42
I after you have mounted the power to do it with multiecuscan or Alfa Obd without problems. Once only, or had a problem with a great point . After the diagnosis I ? lit the lamp for the esp and not to take away more?. I do not know why

legendaryslave
29-12-2013, 14:52
Let me know!. In diagnosis, read the steering angle or the pair?

you certainly read ache other values and you have the chance? make adjustments

motorsport
29-12-2013, 16:40
Anyway, with autocom 2013.3 do it all...

Omt
29-12-2013, 21:13
Sorry guys but autocom chinese that is to much for a few euros in the network??

explode82
29-12-2013, 22:38
exact that

SlimPickens
29-12-2013, 22:58
I've read that the Punto evo and the like, the torque sensors have a flat cable and are not replaceable... ? true?

rts
29-12-2013, 23:04
I have always made problems with st? centering of the tooth bottom, which must be 0, but how do you adjust it when ? mounted? Then not always ? the sensor copy but the rel? and them who supplies them???

blackwolf76
29-12-2013, 23:29
The problem you see it from the diagnosis. The sensors are also found on ebay. On a paragraph 188 of the first series I had to turn the steering column to enable us to enter the sensor classic, but they always worked. During assembly, the centering is not drve to be fine... We think the diagnosis to fine tune the position.

rts
30-12-2013, 00:00
Yes, I know that the sensors are out there and here by me sell them the spare parts at very competitive prices for? the fear of having problems has led me to make them regenerate specialized firms, and that in the end, perhaps they replaced only the sens and just

Omt
30-12-2013, 01:46
Think of you!! I paid 900 euro to refresh the brain bee and does not!! To think that I have had problems also x reset do the service for a giulietta 2.0 mjt!!! I have had to reset cm myth!

Reset entering as the alfa mito. Sorry but I write with the phone... the Fault of the t9....

motorsport
01-01-2014, 22:38
think today with 4 money get a diagnosis type multiecuscan is all about alfa, fiat and lancia!!

Omt
02-01-2014, 00:04
The one I have, the problem is that I did the activation on a pc that I use the most? and I can't move the license to the one you use in the workshop! As rosico!!

rts
02-01-2014, 00:15
But if you take autocom I know that you do...well as the reset service of the giulietta

Omt
02-01-2014, 00:42
Do you know a safe site where you can find this diagnosis? Or on the forum you can not enter this information?

blackwolf76
02-01-2014, 10:39
On the forum you can insert external links and anyway, if you look carefully you will find the system to let go of the multiecuscan on the new pc.

biondo83
02-01-2014, 12:29
Use as a search engine ****** and the right keywords in the search.

Omt
02-01-2014, 17:54
Ok, thanks and sorry.

progress
10-01-2014, 22:50
the traditional ones with the cable can also be fitted without the right-angle holder (except grande punto ? it is advisable to use the bush because of the lack of activation by means of the diagnosis of the position,otherwise, go****) so then with the diagnosis from the 0 position.
While on the ones with the flat serves the bush just as the speech of the great point but here is not enough**** serves the the centralizing assembly must be accurate to 0 with max 1/2 of tolerance and hand are not able to come there is no calibration of the sensor on those with flat.
Add that to the review of a steering column is not only the replacement of a torque sensor, but also of the motor,the coupling,bushes,etc., therefore, a good bench review columns if you want to do well serving

Omt
11-01-2014, 07:48
Guys on the citroen c3 old that cn the starter motor on the box the address is equal to the fiat group?

GPoint
17-01-2014, 20:56
I state that I am in the industry and I do not repair if not for personal use. On the Y of my companion, who complained of often the error on the torque sensor, I was able to replace it easily enough. I had read that it was necessary to use a specific tool, but the sensor was blocked with a clip that I removed only after the installation is complete. In the end I only had to do the centering with MES that the coast is a no brainer. Surely there are auto ir? complex that require special tools.

legendaryslave
18-01-2014, 01:39
Done its work today on a point on the sensor is always decentralized when the mountains just tell him where to ?. In the centre there are no particular difficulty,work fully feasible

gcmotor
18-01-2014, 19:21
Quoto with friends on the mountain without the right-angle holder. C' ? the latch to be removed only after you have positioned the sensor... and then close everything. Then if c'? need centering in diagnosis.
On the Big Point for me ? happened to pi? some time for the control unit to the steering I did run the motor. you know me-the fault within the ecu ?

crteam
22-01-2014, 09:19
I feel ke brain bee doesn't do the calibration and I can confermafre that instead of the brian bell is the sensor calibration torque motor position.autocom delphi or wow does not do it,do it on the big point,do position sensor,go to camniare, and the steering from side to side goes heavy and a side light. member and marelli do the work.the mounting and is very important to follow a procedure and in many cases it resolves with the diagnosis.where st? I have designed a tool for all types of elettroguida also the ones with the flat and you can change.for those interested in the clsa pu? ask.an innovation made in italy

sorry for the writing, but is the keyboard sucks

159sportwagon
22-01-2014, 14:49
I do everything with multiecuscan or alfa obd . It works fine . There? also instructions how to do it to the point 188 and the grande punto. For? are in German with pictures