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dreamc85
14-12-2013, 01:00
hi all, I open this thread to ask for advice on which are the starting points to learn how to remap an ecu, the software and the necessary cables to the purpose and the procedures to follow, thanks!
Backgroop
14-12-2013, 09:05
Hello if you have no experience I recommend starting gradually, he began to work with a trainer, bought equipment that you cover the magiorparte of the machines working, please contact any tuner that offers an online service, and facts to develop the maps and aid, then slowly things will be the sun
dreamc85
14-12-2013, 13:26
hello backgroop I don't think that you will find many preparatory in my area, especially if you need help, then with respect to the equipment, according to you, what could I take?
the kwp 2000 plus, and the bdm100? do you think that can go well to cover most of the cars in circulation?
Backgroop
14-12-2013, 13:32
As a programmer, I recommend you the Fgtech v53 or v54 do both Bdm that the obd ? other.. or an equipment officer, where you have full support and software updates
dreamc85
14-12-2013, 18:23
and the cost?
159sportwagon
14-12-2013, 22:26
The cock v54 euro clone to the true and perfect for the beginning . The costs here are not high comparing a programmer official
dreamc85
14-12-2013, 23:17
I have seen that is about 180 euros on the cock, but in your opinion has some limitation? or can you do it all?
and if I want to maybe start to try the software for remapping to start doing some experiment, spending less, what would you recommend? the bdm100 and kwp2000 are very limited in comparison?
infinityecu
14-12-2013, 23:26
and if I want to maybe start to try the software for remapping to start doing some experiment, spending less, what would you recommend? the bdm100 and kwp2000 are very limited in comparison?
Buy a good cock v2 v53 and you are affixed go quiet
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 00:03
what are the main changes from the v54?
159sportwagon
15-12-2013, 00:07
It seems to me , the protocols
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 00:19
what are the main changes from the v54?
nothing changes the v 53, and only the clone v54 original and it is enough to buy it and go quiet a v53 of the good ones here in the forum if you go to the section fgtech you can see all the users that have purchased the various programmers, including I me the other day ? here and there I do all the work in serial to tour safely
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 00:28
this programmer involves removing the eprom from the control unit to be able to remap or you can create a copy of the eprom on the pc to work with it and then load it later?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 00:50
this programmer involves removing the eprom from the control unit to be able to remap or you can create a copy of the eprom on the pc to work with it and then load it later?
The rooster v2 ? a programmer that allows you to work through a serial port or via a cable to the obd and then in the package you will find a set of cables that allow you to be able to use bdm boot mode, jtag according to the type of ecu you have to do, and possibly the mode? you want to use to be able to work, and in the folder of the programmer fgtech find a set of patterns with photos on how to work and on the connections to be made for many different types of ecu for? I can also say that a serial port or cable takes a lot of drive and has a car park very large including the new ecus talking about the version v53 clone and what is important for? ? being able to find the right version that really works why? in the network there are many sellers who sell but also true of many who sell poor quality I for example, I was lucky and I found the version that works perfectly in everything but if you go to the forum in the section fgtech you accorerai that I have also posted a photo with the inside and the chips of my cock, and I can tell you that it really works as what the user has sportknight to me you have to think that in just 3 days I ? arrived ;-)
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 01:08
but how much did it cost?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 01:12
but how much did it cost?
I am here in Italy, he bought 250 euro including shipments shipment from a chinese and I can tell you that I have found, as I said, very well
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 01:28
it seems to me spending a p? excessive if I just want to try to try to remap, especially the perch? ? the first time that I try to do these things, you who say to me?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 01:34
it seems to me spending a p? excessive if I just want to try to try to remap, especially the perch? ? the first time that I try to do these things, you who say to me?
On the contrary, I can say that the expenditure ? absolutely low indeed starting to work with a good tool and professional that allows you to do everything in most of the cases, and in the pi? you risk a lot less inferiuori than a tool of a few money in addition to make you risk blocking the ecu or to the pi? the money that you have to spend out of pocket to the customer then you will be forced again to redo the expenditure of a good programmer and not worth, in my opinion, worth spending twice their money for the same thing and then still a lot of work on the pi? quiet with a good tool for this ? the first thing that matters
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 01:44
I was opting for the kwp 2000 due to the fact that I find for a 25 euro... you tell me that ? to throw money unnecessarily?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 01:52
I was opting for the kwp 2000 due to the fact that I find for a 25 euro... you tell me that ? to throw money unnecessarily?
But this has nothing to do with the rooster v2 if you need to work I have given you my advice, take the cock v2, then do as you want but the difference there is, and how
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 01:58
I was opting for the kwp 2000 due to the fact that I find for a 25 euro... you tell me that ? to throw money unnecessarily?
Apart from the fact that with the kwp 2000 can't do nothing in comparison to the gallo v2
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 02:05
understood, however I was not able to find the section of the forum, of which I you were talking about, can you tell me exactly where should I look for? if you tell me that the kwp 2000 plus ? crap I trust...
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 02:09
understood, however I was not able to find the section of the forum, of which I you were talking about, can you tell me exactly where should I look for? if you tell me that the kwp 2000 plus ? crap I trust...
You calculate that the rooster v2 in addition to the writing of the file does not makes you lose even the encoding to the injectors, as in many cars such as ford, citroen, peugeot, opel, pegeout, as happens with mpps in addition to the block of units I in the end, you should do the council, however, the section is called the Cock here is the link https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/forumdisplay.php?21-Galletto
dreamc85
15-12-2013, 02:13
ok the section I had already? found, but the discussion where you posted the pictures of your no...
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 02:31
ok the section I had already? found, but the discussion where you posted the pictures of your no...
here is post no 153 https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?4488-controllare-galletto-v53/page16
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 02:38
ok the section I had already? found, but the discussion where you posted the pictures of your no...
For? if you look on the market buy sell on site you will find a listing of my of a gallo v 2 v 51 unlike the v3 is any machine less? ? excellent as well with great components and funzionnate and I'm selling it new at 200 euro here is the link to the post n' 5 c'? also my address ***** eventualemnte I would be interested
Beppe_SC
15-12-2013, 12:46
Apart from the fgtech, programs?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 14:02
Apart from the fgtech, programs?
In that sense, the programmes would say the software that is used to remap?
Beppe_SC
15-12-2013, 15:02
In that sense, the programmes would say the software that is used to remap?
Yes, I wanted to say this, I saw the two well-known, ecm and winols, but I understand that they have the structures and ways of working completely different, so ... on as an orientation
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 15:10
Yes, I wanted to say this, I saw the two well-known, ecm and winols, but I understand that they have the structures and ways of working completely different, so ... on as an orientation
I to start I would recommend the ecm even why? winols ? too difficele for a beginner it works with the damos but first you need to understand the ways of increase that you can give in a map, and after the experience with the maps, maybe using the right program
Beppe_SC
15-12-2013, 15:28
I to start I would recommend the ecm even why? winols ? too difficele for a beginner it works with the damos but first you need to understand the ways of increase that you can give in a map, and after the experience with the maps, maybe using the right program
I have tried to give a look here:
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?4580-MARELLI-MJET-impariamola!
I have a great point and I ? family this type of control unit, for? I am not with any graph using ecm.. ? version 1.61, pu? be dated?
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 15:43
I have tried to give a look here:
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?4580-MARELLI-MJET-impariamola!
I have a great point and I ? family this type of control unit, for? I am not with any graph using ecm.. ? version 1.61, pu? be dated?
I understood better explained
megamind
15-12-2013, 16:35
I have tried to give a look here:
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?4580-MARELLI-MJET-impariamola!
I have a great point and I ? family this type of control unit, for? I am not with any graph using ecm.. ? version 1.61, pu? be dated?
Perhaps you have not uploaded the driver here is why? don't you f? see the tables or you're uploading a sw. amended and ecm will not load the driver automatically.
Beppe_SC
15-12-2013, 17:23
I understood better explained
Perhaps you have not uploaded the driver here is why? don't you f? see the tables or you're uploading a sw. amended and ecm will not load the driver automatically.
infinityecu
15-12-2013, 17:42
But you talk to see the map in 2d anxich? in the grid? That software you have to edit the map?
my name is Giuseppe,
any of you had problems with the galleto V53 why? to me I do not read in bdm,
as soon as I press the screen bdm gives me error and closes the page I read here and there and program the Ftdi, Boo!
Tuningmotor88
17-12-2013, 00:23
my name is Giuseppe,
any of you had problems with the galleto V53 why? to me I do not read in bdm,
as soon as I press the screen bdm gives me error and closes the page I read here and there and program the Ftdi, Boo!
Hi peppino, I think that you should do this discussion in the area of the cock of the forum here you go the link where you can find a solution to your problem https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/forumdisplay.php?21-Galletto
What is the difference ? between the cock v84 and the v52 or 53... 54 instead ? pure fantasy?
Hello rockerx85 the differences are to the internal components of the card are made and the types of ecu that I can read and write both in serial and to tour in different mode? between the v51 and the v 53 or 54 how will you call it does not exists, the v84 ne v 52 ma v48 v51 and 53 :-)
ank I thought that there was this v84 then I found it on sale there match the software of the 2012, and then also the v52... in fact confuse a p? ideas... boh
Well written, you can find what you want, but really and as I say v 84 stands for the version of the software and not the hardware
sportknight
17-12-2013, 08:28
v84 ? always v48 cos? as the v50 v51 and v52...
Thanks tunningmotor88, I try but for me the forums are tabu, I do not know to move, thanks
Tuningmotor88
17-12-2013, 12:02
Thanks tunningmotor88, I try but for me the forums are tabu, I do not know to move, thanks
I'm sorry, in what sense is for you, the forums are tabu, however, I have simply told you what I do know, however, if you want to be on the safe side acqusita a rooster v2 v 53 up to date with car park and ample job iin serial and tour and go quiet
as I had already? said the galletto 2 V53 I c'? I gi? from time to time , but anyway thank you the same why? I fixed it,
I installed it on a desktop and has funzioanto perfectly in place on the laptop was not working , had reason the chinese, the pc must be of a certain power.
I say tabu why? I lose myself to respond in speech that is not related, was not a response subjective.
Tuningmotor88
18-12-2013, 14:42
as I had already? said the galletto 2 V53 I c'? I gi? from time to time , but anyway thank you the same why? I fixed it,
I installed it on a desktop and has funzioanto perfectly in place on the laptop was not working , had reason the chinese, the pc must be of a certain power.
I, until today, I installed it, however, I have many pc's and never have problems
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