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hello to all,
I have to bring an application in respect of a Fiesta 1.4 tdci year 2010 of the daughter of a dear friend of mine complaining about problems in the start-up phase in the presence of low temperatures and humidity.
I read a discussion of a type that was said to have solved the problem with an update of the unit is done by the dealer...
Question: this May be a similar problem to the warm start of the drive of the WW group?
To someone ? never happened something like that?
No l warm start vw and very different from this.show that injection mounts if bosch or siemens.and cn fap? Km? The type of engine?
mincio82
27-11-2013, 09:51
Hello, in our family we have the same car and at the moment don't you ? never presented this defect.
Only once, after a stop of about two weeks, the engine ? started 3 cylinder showing an excessive fumosit? exhaust..I solved it simply by turning off the engine and restarting it.
With the occasion of the coupon, I explained the problem to a mechanic and I told him that viewing other specific forum, there was talk of an update to the ecu to perform in the Ford.
He, after checking into the diagnosis of the presence of any errors, he told me that the first fiesta mk7 had a recall, but mine, being dated 05/2013, had already? the software version of the pi? recently.
this ? as of November 2010. Not ? of the first, but not the last.
The dir? go to ford and ask for enlightenment for the update.
Thanks
I have to put an emphasis on the importance of checking the temperature sensor of the cooling liquid.
Non pu? simply be the battery a bit weak and the cold, which accentuates the problem?
check the fuel filter I have had a couple of defective
mincio82
28-11-2013, 09:49
In fact, you should clarify a bit better the question..for difficulty? starter what do you mean exactly?
- The starter motor ? fatigued as if missing the cue from the battery?
- The starter turns fine but you need more? time to put in motion the car?
- The starter turns fine but the code of the key is not recognised?
- The whole system of the starter works well, but you do not hear the fuel pump that part
- etc..etc..
controls the pressure oil with the diagnosis and see, and when you arrive at the start
Are not a novice has tt ? a problem of queues.cmq 280 bar
fabio1207
28-11-2013, 14:40
to me it happened to me a similar thing done by cutting the car had starting problems in cold weather I solved by mounting a fuel filter is new (it was always a bosch for which he was also a good brand) but it was defective but to me, he did immediately after the cutting off of you when it happened?after that was done some work on the car ?
The battery should be good, since? the starter motor turns regularly, but the start-up ? long.
My friend said that during the first year of life, a morning ? stubborn to not start for as they loaded and brought to the workshop where they changed the diesel fuel filter.
Maybe not ? a case that after the last service (change filter) made less than a month ago, the problem, is it ? even accentuated!
Then the administrator could be the fuel filter, but that the defects could have? In fact ? just a bit of folded paper!!!!
mincio82
28-11-2013, 16:48
From the little experience that I did, the diesel fuel filter has 3 functions:
- Filter the fuel from impurities? that could damage the power supply system
- Separate the water from the diesel
- Regulate the pressure of the fuel
Since it has the pressure sensor of diesel ? easy to think that a filter is clogged or damaged, it triggers the alarm to the controller, which denies consent to the starting of the engine.
The problem you described has been going on for a long time, and, hopefully, after the pi? replacement of the fuel filter. at this point I'm worried about the quality? of the fuel used, on the cleaning of the tank and on the classic sensor that is unsettled.
Sorry if I used a language that is not appropriate, but are an enthusiast and not an expert in the field.
From the little experience that I did, the diesel fuel filter has 3 functions:
- Filter the fuel from impurities? that could damage the power supply system
- Separate the water from the diesel
- Regulate the pressure of the fuel
Since it has the pressure sensor of diesel ? easy to think that a filter is clogged or damaged, it triggers the alarm to the controller, which denies consent to the starting of the engine.
The problem you described has been going on for a long time, and, hopefully, after the pi? replacement of the fuel filter. at this point I'm worried about the quality? of the fuel used, on the cleaning of the tank and on the classic sensor that is unsettled.
Sorry if I used a language that is not appropriate, but are an enthusiast and not an expert in the field.
I don't think that it is a problem related to diesel fuel, since? it also has a fiat 16 drinking without problems from the same distributor...
It seems to me you understand, but I need to verify that the fuel filter is installed on these engines TDCI not ? the classic one that is "screw", bens? ? a box with two quick couplings
Since? our friend gero has found two defective ? this type of filter design problems? You could replace it with some kind of pi? functional?
mincio82
28-11-2013, 17:35
Change the type of filter I think that is impossible, you might want to? change the brand of the filter..maybe it could be more? faithful to the original and fit better
fabio1207
28-11-2013, 19:54
The battery should be good, since? the starter motor turns regularly, but the start-up ? long.
My friend said that during the first year of life, a morning ? stubborn to not start for as they loaded and brought to the workshop where they changed the diesel fuel filter.
Maybe not ? a case that after the last service (change filter) made less than a month ago, the problem, is it ? even accentuated!
Then the administrator could be the fuel filter, but that the defects could have? In fact ? just a bit of folded paper!!!!
In the filter or filter holder ,there is a valve that is not to return to the naphtha back, if that valve is not working, the naphtha back and empties the system ,(but time is needed) for this reason, normally (in the default),you have the problem cold,why? you ? given the time to download the plant and the machine, yes ? freddata
In the filter or filter holder ,there is a valve that is not to return to the naphtha back, if that valve is not working, the naphtha back and empties the system ,(but time is needed) for this reason, normally (in the default),you have the problem cold,why? you ? given the time to download the plant and the machine, yes ? freddata
To understand if ? valve, can you? try to park the car in the drop-down, as it is for the golf that is struggling to start in the cold?
fabio1207
29-11-2013, 07:38
Watch should you buy,the blower by hand (for a better understanding ,that of the Renault Clio 1500dci ,the delphi for sure sells it)and put it in ,then see how v
Watch should you buy,the blower by hand (for a better understanding ,that of the Renault Clio 1500dci ,the delphi for sure sells it)and put it in ,then see how v?
if I understand it, this blower ? similar to a rugby ball black' t? a non-return valve (it was also mounted on the marea 105 jtd)...
In the positive case, that the height of the duct where should I mount it between the tank and the filter?
the blower on the marea jtd 105 fusion. I remember that in the tank c'? a pump that comes in at 3 bar
...maybe he meant the hardening...c'? also the return line that breaks at times and is sucking in air if you have replaced the filter and have moved the pipes that pass behind ? easy to suck air
fabio1207
29-11-2013, 14:42
no as said gero the pump should not be installed if the car has the electric pump,as if he had the electric pump, all you need is to turn the ignition 2/3 times for ten seconds to restore the pressure in the circuit
it is between the tank and filter
The air bubbles
in the circuit diesel
pu? be a problem
Sorry, my enter key ? blocked
dear friends, I have reported all of your suggestions to my friend that tomorrow is the porter? the ford (where they did the cutting), and ask? lumi directly to them. For now, thank you all for the interest shown. I promise that you held? updated.
fabio1207
29-11-2013, 23:35
You let us know how he solved
mincio82
03-12-2013, 09:36
It is, in fact, I'm curious too!
By the way, who has the engine, he noticed the noise "strange" a cold?
Mine, for example, emits a kind of howling, which then disappears when it arrives in the temperature
fabio1207
03-12-2013, 14:47
try to remove the walls services and see if you do the same at least exclude accessories
however, to me on a fiesta was the water pump
mincio82
03-12-2013, 15:06
Thanks for the straight, the warranty expired (I still have 6 - 7 months) prover? to do the test, provided always that for you to succeed given that I am a simple enthusiast who delights and not a professional.
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