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oakley1
15-11-2013, 09:20
Hello as the title suggests I write to ask you this question. My 500 ? plagued by this problem and the circle? some pious soul, which resolved without changing all the stove but only repairing the door. Maybe if someone has the exploded view of where is this door, it would be appreciated. Thanks. Oakley

enzopezzano
15-11-2013, 09:29
the paddle of the mixer and the inside of the package of the heater, behind the dashboard. Then sonta ari bag,odometer,radio,heating controls,steering wheel, etc..... remove the whole dashboard after which? after downloading the installation of air conditioning and disengaged, hardware pack, warming up in the engine compartment, the dismount from the vehicle's interior and then you have to open. Good fun. Drew ,if you're a patient let loose and leak, do by another.

oakley1
15-11-2013, 09:55
Hi thanks for the reply...I wanted to know if ? the only solution apart from leave it cos?.... You can't? see the door from below, for example.? Do not even know where ? located near the fan or elsewhere

Backgroop
15-11-2013, 09:55
the problem is in the gears that open and close the door of the mixer, it happens that you are broken and I don't know if you can? access by removing the drawer, door objects, otherwise you should remove the plangia dashboard and verify without having to disassemble the heater which is the door to be defective with an active diagnosis etc

oakley1
15-11-2013, 10:02
I made the diagnosis and I actually percentages strange opening closing... The starter motor works but I think that the door is locked. I just have to figure out which one is it ? if you can access it from the outside, not removing it completely

egs
15-11-2013, 10:14
I'm going a bit by memory now, but the mixer should be mounted from the passenger side, just under the hood on the dashboard, you should get there by disassembling only the panel that covers that part. And ? a defect that they have all those machines. Only that parts of them, not by Fiat, then you should give him a change...

oakley1
15-11-2013, 10:23
Thanks . Cos? I have addressed . Pi? late start? to disassemble the bulkhead passenger side and see a little. Maybe the actions of the door from the diagnosis and I can see exactly where it is located.... And I hope to be able to change and make it work. Here in Sardinia, it's not cold cold, but you never know. You keep up to date

ugoboss
15-11-2013, 10:40
I'm going a bit by memory now, but the mixer should be mounted from the passenger side, just under the hood on the dashboard, you should get there by disassembling only the panel that covers that part. And ? a defect that they have all those machines. Only that parts of them, not by Fiat, then you should give him a change...

quote in full what has been said, the starter motor is on the passenger side and there you should get, the problem arises if you need to change the door that you have to remove the dashboard, but first' I advise you to take a learning position the doors in the diagnosis, you never know.

oakley1
15-11-2013, 11:21
Hi l learning portella only with official diagnosis?

ugoboss
15-11-2013, 12:07
you should do this even with fiat ecuscan or with autocom, you have to try.

egs
15-11-2013, 12:16
The problem is not ? even dismantle the dashboard ? that will not only give you the scoop....

oakley1
15-11-2013, 12:59
You know that they sell the stove, but With a bit of manualit? the door to the
I affixed. Obviously, if the ports in Fiat do not trust to do a repair since the machine ? my me the risk... If I can act without disassemble the whole it would be very nice

egs
15-11-2013, 16:15
You should be able to do both the edit and remove the starter without removing so much...

oakley1
15-11-2013, 16:22
Then the paddle mixing should be behind the starter right?

enzopezzano
15-11-2013, 16:28
Then, if c'? a starter problem with learning not solve, if you have a problem with the gears, with learning not solve, and so on. If the gears that control the paddle to break down and just why? c'? a problem within the group heating. As a last resort after you have checked everything with the diagnosis, before disassembling the entire machine, you can try with a climate control unit. If you find an equal used.

egs
15-11-2013, 17:30
Then the paddle mixing should be behind the starter right?

Yes, the headstock ? stuck in the recess of the motor...

oakley1
15-11-2013, 17:33
Hi all, I have dismantled as say... The starter motor mixer ? controlled by the temperature keys right? And well, the motor has its drive gear to crescent ? coupled to anything... I Am baffled....

egs
15-11-2013, 18:21
And indeed, that's what the defect.-...

oakley1
15-11-2013, 18:38
Cio?? What should it be? Not c'? a housing for the Paddle. There are no broken pieces

enzopezzano
15-11-2013, 23:13
You have to disassemble the unit heating if you want to solve.

oakley1
15-11-2013, 23:31
I figured it out. But I would like to see that motor where it should act seen that near has nothing to move

enzopezzano
16-11-2013, 09:57
write the frame or the license plate of the car that I look

oakley1
16-11-2013, 10:58
After I provide. Another thing... I noticed that the white gear in a half-moon is detached from the body of the motor and has a slot on the body of the stove... I would Not like it was broken side of the stove where it should be the flap mixer net, and I didn't realize it.

enzopezzano
16-11-2013, 12:11
may be, in case you have to remove. make sure well before proceeding.

oakley1
16-11-2013, 12:21
Even why? I think c'? that white gear is needed for the climate controls manual where to place the starter motor in order to move the posts to there is another mechanism

Hello. I solved the problem of the door, now it works. But.... L hot air does not come out the same. Any idea?

rts
17-11-2013, 15:30
Hello to all purei I had a customer with a similar problem, and at the command of the owner, after having presented the prev expenditure for sistermarla well, he told me to do something to spend a little, I changed the headstock fissandogli a race by way of acting manually by placing your hands under the dashboard on the passenger side and open and close the heating....you punch the pin output of the headstock that deflects the air.

rts
17-11-2013, 15:32
....sorry to make this work I have put in the account of two tubes of voltaren....I had to do the contortionist to fix it

oakley1
17-11-2013, 15:51

ugoboss
17-11-2013, 16:23


I know that is not a conventional practice , but you can try to disconnect the two hoses that go to the heating from the engine compartment and try them out inside with a compressor, first floor, and then with more force.

enzopezzano
17-11-2013, 16:31
You know that the gears have the established position when mounting on the motor? If it is not respected, the motor works with the wrong position and it does not work!!!!

oakley1
17-11-2013, 16:37
Controlled the motor position with respect to the headstock and ? ok. The problem ? the radiatorino cold ..... So you should try the solution of Ugo.... But I say, how the hell do they hold their sti radiatorini

rts
17-11-2013, 18:00
It is as absurd as ? also, the thermostatic valve, which releases the tube even after 30000Km....crazy

oakley1
17-11-2013, 18:12
I have an update.. After I sfracellato the arm to reach from the engine compartment to the two pipes... With the hand I pumped first the upper and then the lower one a bunch of times... Making this floor plan, I noticed that I had a return in go d expansion becomes more and more... However, after being able to try it in the air now ? hot enough ... I'm completely satisfied. Pi? in the will? to disassemble the filter box and unhook the 2 hoses to wash better radiatorino