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Emanu88
06-11-2013, 01:49
hi all I have a problem with a mito 1.4 t-jet 120 in practice, the owner has broken the turbine original and I had to replace it with the one of the 155hp it's just that now I have a problem in practice the car, I close the throttle when pike of an overboost so I was thinking if it was possible to equal the number of hardware to write the file to the 155 on the 120, or do I have to go to remove the bit of the butterfly of the file of the 120 I thank anyone who wants to help me

voglioimparare
06-11-2013, 08:48
you have to riadeguare all,otherwise compare your map with that of the 155 hp and look at the differences..or lowers the peak pressure...it depends on what you want to do..

Emanu88
06-11-2013, 10:49
In practice, the machine me off, especially when you reach the 4 and I want to resolve this problem from the diagnosis, I see that I just picca pressure closes the falfalla. What do you mean by riadeguare tt? Also I'm interested in if ? feasible the exchange of maps with the same hardware?

voglioimparare
06-11-2013, 11:00
In practice, the machine me off, especially when you reach the 4 and I want to resolve this problem from the diagnosis, I see that I just picca pressure closes the falfalla. What do you mean by riadeguare tt? Also I'm interested in if ? feasible the exchange of maps with the same hardware?

you can not do an exchange of an equal number of hw. you have to compare the map of the 155 with that of the 120 and adjust pressure turbo,an overboost and fuel injection. otherwise, always from the ecu to lower the peak of an overboost and the problem is resolved. it is normal that an equal number of pressure a turbona big spienge more air. and me 7.9.10 working at target as a strategy for the recovery closes the butterfly. from diagosi not solve anything anyway,the insured.

Emanu88
06-11-2013, 12:45
Thanks for the information on the exchange maps, this matter to me ? normal and they are aware of us? you say on the subject, and the functioning of the turbocharger and the diagnosis I used to make log thanks again hello

infinityecu
06-11-2013, 13:16
hi all I have a problem with a mito 1.4 t-jet 120 in practice, the owner has broken the turbine original and I had to replace it with the one of the 155hp it's just that now I have a problem in practice the car, I close the throttle when pike of an overboost so I was thinking if it was possible to equal the number of hardware to write the file to the 155 on the 120, or do I have to go to remove the bit of the butterfly of the file of the 120 I thank anyone who wants to help me


Take a file to the tjet 155hp possibly with identical hw apr? the map and the voice, the voice compares and tries to copy the values similar to put them on the map of the 120 hp manually especially reviewed good area limiting device and the parameters of the turbo........

Emanu88
06-11-2013, 20:08
Thanks for the advice I had time today to make the map, but while I had to deliver the car, I stood mechanically on the wg, as soon as I back I can see from the map. I wanted to ask you if the linitazione butterfly you can figure out by comparing two files with the same hw of 1.4 aspirated version 78 and 100hp?

infinityecu
06-11-2013, 20:39
Thanks for the advice I had time today to make the map, but while I had to deliver the car, I stood mechanically on the wg, as soon as I back I can see from the map. I wanted to ask you if the linitazione butterfly you can figure out by comparing two files with the same hw of 1.4 aspirated version 78 and 100hp?

Not for all situations, and that is valid, but it all depends on what you need to do and get

legendaryslave
06-11-2013, 21:05
you have to load the files from the 2-mega 155 hp with the same hw

Emanu88
07-11-2013, 01:54
you have to load the files from the 2-mega 155 hp with the same hw
who tells me that nn can you? do who you are I am a beginner and do damage nn I own, but I'm not taking with you ? my vent.... have you ever made a similar modification to the software on the same hardware?

Emanu88
07-11-2013, 01:58
Not for all situations, and that is valid, but it all depends on what you need to do and get

for the series if I wanted to elimirare own the limitation that leads to close the butterfly on the myth would be valid as to take in an example or tt has a different logic linked to the pressures detected between asp manifold asp and aps on the led before the butterfly?

claudio-abarth
07-11-2013, 15:36
but in the 120 the cams and injectors are not different from the 150?

alfajtd
07-11-2013, 17:11
Of course, you...

infinityecu
07-11-2013, 20:10
but in the 120 the cams and injectors are not different from the 150?

I know the 120 from 150 different turbo injectors clutch gearbox, but the cam seems to me to be identical

Emanu88
07-11-2013, 21:18
I know the 120 from 150 different turbo injectors clutch gearbox, but the cam seems to me to be identical

it seems strange to me that the cams are the same between 120 and 150 I know that they have different l shaft of the motor relative to the crank, and related injectors and turbo and cams

the only thing they have in common are the sensors aps that are equal to 155

infinityecu
07-11-2013, 21:23
it seems strange to me that the cams are the same between 120 and 150 I know that they have different l shaft of the motor relative to the crank, and related injectors and turbo and cams

I have only said that the cams are the same, " it seems to me not ? a source of security ", but it was the injectors, turbo, clutch and gearbox are definitely different

Emanu88
07-11-2013, 21:40
infinityecu, I'm sorry I sbaglito to write, and I correct myself are different between 120 and 150 cams

infinityecu
07-11-2013, 21:51
No don't have to apologise, I thought I had figured out one thing for another

Emanu88
08-11-2013, 01:21
I wonder if the replacement of software in parit? hardware you can? do? seen that there are answers that are discordant on the subject and I want to have clear ideas

infinityecu
08-11-2013, 05:13
I wonder if the replacement of software in parit? hardware you can? do? seen that there are answers that are discordant on the subject and I want to have clear ideas

Depends on the type of Ecu and the software version with which ? combined with the hardware in theory you can? do a practical matter you can? do but at the risk of the block

alfajtd
08-11-2013, 09:19
If you put a different sw and a big mistake,
In my opinion, and better to act from the sw original and intervene
In an appropriate manner.

If you do not know it was better to put the turbine in the original.

Emanu88
09-11-2013, 08:17
Thanks for the opinion I now have the ideas more clear

legendaryslave
09-11-2013, 13:16
If you put a different sw and a big mistake,
In my opinion, and better to act from the sw original and intervene
In an appropriate manner.

If you do not know it was better to put the turbine in the original.

when they sent a 500 130hp fiat to turn it into ss ? back with an ecu changed with the same hw but sw different ? been applied throughout the kit, including filter,shocks+springs, bumpers,diski brake,the pressure gauge on the framework and everything else on the engine and did absolutely nothing ? been redone the booklet with the new cavalry I pernso that the 130 from 160 to differ for just ecu is not there I put my hand on fire, but I think it should be so

alfajtd
09-11-2013, 14:48
This is a gp 120 hp... Differ parts in the engine.

infinityecu
09-11-2013, 15:27
when they sent a 500 130hp fiat to turn it into ss ? back with an ecu changed with the same hw but sw different ? been applied throughout the kit, including filter,shocks+springs, bumpers,diski brake,the pressure gauge on the framework and everything else on the engine and did absolutely nothing ? been redone the booklet with the new cavalry I pernso that the 130 from 160 to differ for just ecu is not there I put my hand on fire, but I think it should be so

They have changed the software maybe for an update once you have made the changes in the house Abarth nothing does not mean that I do not the possible made even if a few also on the motor are you sure??

infinityecu
09-11-2013, 15:27
If you put a different sw and a big mistake,
In my opinion, and better to act from the sw original and intervene
In an appropriate manner.

If you do not know it was better to put the turbine in the original.

I alfajtd for? sometimes the risk works, depending on the type of ecu

legendaryslave
09-11-2013, 17:24
They have changed the software maybe for an update once you have made the changes in the house Abarth nothing does not mean that I do not the possible made even if a few also on the motor are you sure??
I saw the invoice, and the bits of gold that have given so much and so true that I put the old ecu with a soft than the 160 hp file da2mega, and mapped with exhaust copleto intercouler turbine bearings and injectors from 320millgrammi 226cv rolled in the bench, I put my hand on fire, as I say this, but I think only changes to the management of the soft and linerizzazione of the sensors on the 500 on the gp I don't know they can be different, I do not doubt that changes anything

legendaryslave
09-11-2013, 17:27
I alfajtd for? sometimes the risk works, depending on the type of ecu
I repeat that I have done personally to change the soft of 130 to 160 file 2 mega the hw are the same, and if the rule says that the number of hw identifies the wiring of the car there are no problems in changing the soft

tecnoecu
09-11-2013, 17:50
hello if you can give an advice compare the map ke ecm titanium called the operating angle in the 120 hp and 155hp

Emanu88
09-11-2013, 17:58
I repeat that I have done personally to change the soft of 130 to 160 file 2 mega the hw are the same, and if the rule says that the number of hw identifies the wiring of the car there are no problems in changing the soft
then the engine wiring between 120 and 150 and 180 are ugiali
in the 180 change the sensors aps that have ir? reading and are appropriate in the map to avoid recovery then according to me ? feasible as a thing much? true that when you are asked the trasfrormazioni in ss abarth load only the software without changing the ecu and you say why? I have a grande punto abarth supersport in the assembled kit is only loaded the software so I'm always on the pi? convinced that we can do

Emanu88
09-11-2013, 18:01
If you put a different sw and a big mistake,
In my opinion, and better to act from the sw original and intervene
In an appropriate manner.

If you do not know it was better to put the turbine in the original.

with regard to the turbine if the was there waiting for the bug, the vl37 but unfortunately the customer was in urgent need of the car, and it gave me this then there is l I have had to fit to needs c? a saying in my part that says " attacks l ass where he wants to be the master," I had warned that there could be problems of recovery

legendaryslave
09-11-2013, 20:00
then the engine wiring between 120 and 150 and 180 are ugiali
in the 180 change the sensors aps that have ir? reading and are appropriate in the map to avoid recovery then according to me ? feasible as a thing much? true that when you are asked the trasfrormazioni in ss abarth load only the software without changing the ecu and you say why? I have a grande punto abarth supersport in the assembled kit is only loaded the software so I'm always on the pi? convinced that we can do
no you change the soft will sell you a eci with the same hw but soft different

legendaryslave
09-11-2013, 20:09
date an eye out here for this ? what I have done
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?21-fiat-500-abarth-1-4tjet-135cv-160cv-200cv-bosch-me7-9-10&p=67129#post67129

claudio-abarth
09-11-2013, 20:21
so the important thing ? the number of the hw control unit to which the write is equal to the number of the hw control unit to which the copy?

Emanu88
09-11-2013, 22:33
no you change the soft will sell you a eci with the same hw but soft different

to my have done so? no I have changed the ecu but I have uploaded the map on the 500 abarth gave another ecu already? programmed

a question, but then the files from the 2 mega must be cut in order to be written in the obd or ? better to write tt file in the boot?

Emanu88
12-11-2013, 04:34
discussion abandoned???????
unfortunately, the mechanical change that I have made on the wt of the myth nn v? or better dinamic machine nn I v? in security, but in normal as soon as I require high load on the engine to reach me goes into protection the thing I think that I can solve without going to change the turbo pressure is set by the map, but going to act on the maps of management throttle are on the right way?

ugoboss
12-11-2013, 07:09
to my have done so? no I have changed the ecu but I have uploaded the map on the 500 abarth gave another ecu already? programmed

a question, but then the files from the 2 mega must be cut in order to be written in the obd or ? better to write tt file in the boot?

the files from the 2 mega should be written in the boot as well as, in this way you also write the files to the micro and not only the map.

Electric
12-11-2013, 10:06
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