clutch for alfa 147

[cjack]

hi guys, soon I have to replace the clutch on my alfa 147 1.9 120 hp remapped...
I wanted to avoid mounting an original piece as fragile.
do you have any advice for me? what could I fit?
ps. I now have about 340nm...

[giarras]

hi guys, soon I have to replace the clutch on my alfa 147 1.9 120 hp remapped...
I wanted to avoid mounting an original piece as fragile.
do you have any advice for me? what could I fit?
ps. I now have about 340nm...

there are companies that modify the state of your overall clutch including flywheel, otherwise if you shoot a p? on the baya find a kit with a reinforced clutch and flywheel bmassa steel

[sa80libero]

take omp and a good reinforced clutch

[cjack]

you have tried some of them?

[sa80libero]

it certainly goes well, there are two different series, ec the copper, but purely for racing as there are slid, then we reinforced version (and mounted it on my car) and that's fine, not slide, etc

[cjack]

from where did you bought it? The Internet? Costs a lot?

[sa80libero]

I took it to a shop of auto parts, I ordered it and the day after I arrived, try to see on the site speedup them are be

[cjack]

I can't find it... but you put it on a 147 diesel?

[sa80libero]

you 1.9 140cv year 2004, I put about 2 years ago

[sa80libero]

try to give a look here:

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[sa80libero]

very good site a safe, quick, etc

[cjack]

interesting thank you... could put the brand name for? :-)
they are always so vague...

[cjack]

Guys how many times I have to say you can not post external links to the forum if not authorized by the moderators so before you ask

[blackwolf76]

The problem is not ? so the clutch as the flywheel, which, according to me ? + subject to failure than the clutch itself, in the case of the 147 without spring drive, a task entrusted to the flywheel.

In your place I would try a flywheel fixed and maybe monterei a clutch in copper, as I have suggested previously.

On the fiat group, with the total thrust (on the alpha ? to pull), stylus not included, ? possible to mount the flywheel of the old TD100, that ? fixed, and not a spring drive, and then very + reliable and less subject to failure of the new systems to bimassa.

[cjack]

I am afraid of the vibration at 1500 rpm with a flywheel monomassa... anyway I'll see what I can find...

[sa80libero]

and a link to the tuning in my opinion not the center with the forum, I thought we could post, but I realize that is not so for so I apologize...

[cjack]

I apologize me for not having asked the permission...

returning to us: I have seen people who have mounted around the clutch of the fiat coup? turbo 20v.... you have never heard of a change of gender?

[dvdtuning]

I've heard good things of the florentines.

[msport (exil77grande)]

I apologize me for not having asked the permission...

returning to us: I have seen people who have mounted around the clutch of the fiat coup? turbo 20v.... you have never heard of a change of gender?

I wanted to report this up grade but I've gone before,it seems that the club alfa has proposed a type geek who has done this on his 147 jtd 115hp and from them many have done it with excellent results, and it would also cost almost 0.

[sa80libero]

but it can't be done on 140/150 hp m-jet?

[zioweb]

but by the, assemble the group of coup??!!?!?!?!

[cjack]

the coupe mounts monomassa compatible with the 147 120 hp series has the bimassa...
the clutch mechanism should be the same(the one with the hydraulic actuator external to the casing)
for the compatibility? with other engines, I don't know if it can go sometimes have the pressure of the hydraulic internal...

[giarras]

but why? do you want to do experiments..in market there are a lot of companies valid that produce complete kits specific to the various needs and costs almost to those of the series. I x fairness I do not recommend any seller, but if you ask around, you will see how widespread the phenomenon.

[cjack]

well... putting the original group of the coupe you'll save a little.. a kit flywheel more reinforced clutch costs 1000 euro!!
then the site where I read is what they said that the clutch pedal was softer, with a kit reinforced I know that hardens...

[admin]

Florentine clutches in Rome and ingamba I had to do it with him from the 1.3 mj per
cosworth with 500cv and I found it well get in touch with them will surely give? a
the council on what you want to do

[cjack]

ok thanks! the will call?...

[msport (exil77grande)]

but why? do you want to do experiments..in market there are a lot of companies valid that produce complete kits specific to the various needs and costs almost to those of the series. I x fairness I do not recommend any seller, but if you ask around, you will see how widespread the phenomenon.

however, there are experiments because they were already' fate on different alpha with excellent results.

[sa80libero]

but on the fiat punto 188 with the engine 1.9 you cannot solve the problem of the clutch is too small? there is a kit for this car?

[giarras]

[QUOTE=admin;3953]Florentine clutches in Rome and ingamba I had to do it with him from the 1.3 mj per
cosworth with 500cv and I found it well get in touch with them will surely give? a
advice on what you would like to do[/QUO

well done, great florentine.

[cjack]

but on the fiat punto 188 with the engine 1.9 you cannot solve the problem of the clutch is too small? there is a kit for this car?

are you referring to the 80cv?

to know if it is possible to assemble the 115... surely c'? a way to solve that problem

[cjack]

just in case someone knows where I can find a volane of the coup??
I was not able to find it in the inyternet...:-(

[guidotacco]

I put a florentine on the alfa 147 140cv was worse than ori with 200000km,risostituita with a alltra always of the florentine that I made back personally,now let's say that goes as the original,b?,for me are very superficial,non-professional

[sa80libero]

I omp I'm finding it very well

[guidotacco]

I omp I'm finding it very well
well,the next time I try!

[admin]

I put a florentine on the alfa 147 140cv was worse than ori with 200000km,risostituita with a alltra always of the florentine that I made back personally,now let's say that goes as the original,b?,for me are very superficial,non-professional

Sorry, how can you get worse?
If you specify what you did on the machine florentine'll definitely counselor' on the load of the pressadisco and type of the disk necessary to your changes

[sa80libero]

in fact, it seems strange to me that a reinforced clutch go worse than the original...

[dvdtuning]

I have heard of the gi? other similar cases on the florentine....

[guidotacco]

Sorry, how can you get worse?
If you specify what you did on the machine florentine'll definitely counselor' on the load of the pressadisco and type of the disk necessary to your changes

unfortunately ? what I ? success,after the second failure I gave up

[dvdtuning]

unfortunately ? what I ? success,after the second failure I gave up

But guarantee at least I hope so, or did you have to pay again?

[sa80libero]

as much as you put in the kit?

[guidotacco]

But guarantee at least I hope so, or did you have to pay again?
it is under warranty!

[guidotacco]

as much as you put in the kit?

I don't remember after that I see!

[guidotacco]

I don't remember after that I see!
? cost 270

[cjack]

the pusher disk + clutch 270?
to me, that valeo made to pay 450!!!

[guidotacco]

reinforced?
the pusher disk + clutch 270?
to me, that valeo made to pay 450!!!

[blackwolf76]

the pusher disk + clutch 270?
to me, that valeo made to pay 450!!!

Maybe you have also given the flywheel ...

[mirks]

I also for my 147 1.9 16-mapped I took the florentines, because if no slittava the original.
price 200? discs clutch pressure plate and bearing holding boost..
up to now, 60K miles, no problem (sgrat sgrat) are now at 130K miles, with a pure flying ori, everything ok...
so my experience ? ok!

[guidotacco]

how many hp has the same as yours?
I also for my 147 1.9 16-mapped I took the florentines, because if no slittava the original.
price 200€ discs clutch pressure plate and the bearing holding boost..
up to now, 60K miles, no problem (sgrat sgrat) are now at 130K miles, with a pure flying ori, everything ok...
so my experience ? ok!

[mirks]

now after the installation of the fuel injection kit water and methanol has 205..

[guidotacco]

we are unlucky us,2 kit, nothing to do!

[mirks]

but the montavi you, or you mount?

[guidotacco]

I checked everything but not v?!however the mod ?ra is a beautiful p? the thrust,now I lowered and with the florentines under does not slide

[cattivik]

The change of the flywheel fixed derivation coupe 20V turbo used on the early jtd 105/115 as paleativo... let us Remember that such a kit ? of smaller diameter and especially pi? light at the expense of a vigorous loss to the high, and then in speed? final! My advice based on lots of experience ? the use of a kit SACHS Performance ? the only valid solution. In fact, if you call, the boys of florence, the first thing you point out ? their kits are a slight upgrade and that x nno have no problems selling you a disk with the clutch pressure plate SACHS Performance.
This kit has a cost a bit higher than the competition but ? the solution is valid because it has studied x to work on a pi? the clutch kit and the less the flywheel.
Only sour note if it's so? you can? call you ? the excessive hardness of the clutch pedal the first 2000-3000 KM.

[guidotacco]

thanks ,s? the SACHS also sells only the reinforced clutch,? true?
The change of the flywheel fixed derivation coupe 20V turbo used on the early jtd 105/115 as paleativo... let us Remember that such a kit ? of smaller diameter and especially pi? light at the expense of a vigorous loss to the high, and then in speed? final! My advice based on lots of experience ? the use of a kit SACHS Performance ? the only valid solution. In fact, if you call, the boys of florence, the first thing you point out ? their kits are a slight upgrade and that x nno have no problems selling you a disk with the clutch pressure plate SACHS Performance.
This kit has a cost a bit higher than the competition but ? the solution is valid because it has studied x to work on a pi? the clutch kit and the less the flywheel.
Only sour note if it's so? you can? call you ? the excessive hardness of the clutch pedal the first 2000-3000 KM.

[cjack]

The change of the flywheel fixed derivation coupe 20V turbo used on the early jtd 105/115 as paleativo... let us Remember that such a kit ? of smaller diameter and especially pi? light at the expense of a vigorous loss to the high, and then in speed? final! My advice based on lots of experience ? the use of a kit SACHS Performance ? the only valid solution. In fact, if you call, the boys of florence, the first thing you point out ? their kits are a slight upgrade and that x nno have no problems selling you a disk with the clutch pressure plate SACHS Performance.
This kit has a cost a bit higher than the competition but ? the solution is valid because it has studied x to work on a pi? the clutch kit and the less the flywheel.
Only sour note if it's so? you can? call you ? the excessive hardness of the clutch pedal the first 2000-3000 KM.

the diameter ? the same... 235mm... the weight of the total dorebbe be slightly lower (advantage-disadvantage)....

[Chris156]

Hi sa80******I would be interested to know that reinforced clutch you have mounted on the 140cv having the same engine, and how many nm you hold.
thanks, Chris156

[rego88]

[Chris156]

I have a 156 1.9 jtd 16v 140cv ..
on the monomassa I agree with you..leave my.. on ebay I saw that they sell the clutch kit reinforced 339,00 €.. according to you ? good?

[Exside81]

I suggest the florentines as a reinforced clutch!

[cattivik]

here's what happens to use " kit assembled " have used a pressure plate cn spring-loaded, of 40%, and all the effort ? concentrated on the mechanism of the seminpresa resulting in rupture visible in the photo...
You can? note that the clutch disc ? new nn has signs of abrasion, abnormal on the friction material.

[Exside81]

I personally Prefer Flywheel (dual mass) and frizzione reinforced,The monomassa I don't like x factor, vibration and excessive noise.
With a good clutch and a map that does not torque the flywheel You have excellent risuntati

[tezzero]

For the reinforced personally for years I use on a shop in turin that sells online, and I found myself always good..

[munro]

here's what happens to use " kit assembled " have used a pressure plate cn spring-loaded, of 40%, and all the effort ? concentrated on the mechanism of the seminpresa resulting in rupture visible in the photo...
You can? note that the clutch disc ? new nn has signs of abrasion, abnormal on the friction material.
if you have installed a hard disk on the flywheel monomassa more than normal to face the end...
also because the way of the plateau-reinforced could not slide the friction material and all the torque of the car,that must be so much to reduce it a disk,you have to download on the hub of the disk.....
with regard to the use of the flywheel coup? 20vt on a jtd flywheel and similar to the bimassa the only differences are that the flywheel fixed and 9mm top of the bimassa and weighs 3.6 kg against the more than 5kg of bimassa....
to mount the flywheel fixed to the coup? without problems, you need to use the thrust bearing and fork command of the same car for no have a foot pedal that "off" very high...
if you want to listen to a council on the flywheel fixed there indirizzerei on a flywheel of the engine of the alfa V6 busso that mounts without any contraindications and the clutch 12 mounting holes instead of 6 as in the bimassa and in the flywheel coup?..
in this kit you just need to add only a disc exedy organic that ? 2mm more often of the ori alpha to keep safely over 600nm of torque....
tested and guaranteed on my ex-alfa 156 2.4 mjet sportwagon giugiaro design by 270cv real to the wheels....

[cattivik]

beautiful and interesting solution

[lancia delta evo]

Sort on the xylem are the best they produce the aktri distribute.

[CiccioBr]

Sort on the xylem are the best they produce the aktri distribute.

I was on my GT jtd16v 150hp mapped heavily (kills original clutch) I mounted a xylem monomassa steel and reinforced clutch with spring drive paid the beauty of 1200euro almost a couple of years ago, unfortunately I had a bad experience with this clutch... I have done 5000 km, and starting from a standstill the car vibrated the whole...

...disassembled the clutch, explained the defect in the xylem have sent us another clutch with anti-shock reinforced, practically on the first engine was the 6 springs, while the latter 4 ghosts big ones... hoping to have resolved assemble the whole thing and vaii.... !!!! 2000km further and rivibrava all!

Moral of the story after so many attempts??? I did change the clutch to a company and now ? on for many miles without a problem and the car does not vibrate in the slightest....

I don't know if it is convenient or not to spend the whole of that amount, I end up between new clutch and change I got to spend 1500euro, not to mention the labor of the mechanic...

[alberto.bf]

I would have mounted a valeo with costs nn too high and a good product....
If the car nn is taken to the limit of its possibilities for on-road use..

[msport (exil77grande)]

I would have mounted a valeo with costs nn too high and a good product....
If the car nn is taken to the limit of its possibilities for on-road use..

we talk about mapping heavy, and in this case, the valeo original does nothing.

[CiccioBr]

as soon as I can pick up the mod file to my ecu, should I put here... I want your opinions... :)

[angelolsp]

the flywheel of the coupe 20v there are 2 models, only the first one of the 98 it's okay if I'm not mistaken...

[tidus1985]

you need the push disk reinforced mechanism to pull, sell them on a well-known buying and selling online, take the kit with clutch and pressure plate reinforced, should go, hoping that once the clutch is the correct socket on the flywheel the same vibrate for too much torque, the flywheel (dual mass)? famous to hold a little higher pairs at 350nm

I'd recommend you step kit monomassa with the above-mentioned clutch, the kit for the coupe tirbo 20v 96 to 98 ? mountable entirely on information relating to the engines jtd/jtdm 8v alfa with a mechanism to pull replacing only the fixing screws of the flywheel, the flywheel if it is well used and the new clutch cost about 250? full of pressure, and keeps you well the 400nm and 200cv

[baraldino]

you need the push disk reinforced mechanism to pull, sell them on a well-known buying and selling online, take the kit with clutch and pressure plate reinforced, should go, hoping that once the clutch is the correct socket on the flywheel the same vibrate for too much torque, the flywheel (dual mass)? famous to hold a little higher pairs at 350nm

I'd recommend you step kit monomassa with the above-mentioned clutch, the kit for the coupe tirbo 20v 96 to 98 ? mountable entirely on information relating to the engines jtd/jtdm 8v alfa with a mechanism to pull replacing only the fixing screws of the flywheel, the flywheel if it is well used and the new clutch cost about 250€ full of pressure, and keeps you well the 400nm and 200cv

I have a customer with an alfa 147 1.9 16v 150 bhp with 6 speed gearbox which is mounted a flywheel monomassa with clutch without spring drive to keep hold but ? very noisy and I would be willing to make the change with the flywheel of the coupe to know if you can mount it on this exchange?