View The Full Version : kess v2 or fgtech galletto v2?
danielecolantonio
23-10-2013, 01:18
Hi guys, sorry for the umpteenth my question. But before doing the steps wrong, I prefer to always ask.I in addition to cars, I would need to remap two tractors, a dear friend of mine, specifically of the New Holland Ts125. I read from the site of alientech that the kess v2 is doing it, now I don't know if the clone does the same, what do you think? What do you advise me kess v2 clone or fgtech galletto?
Thanks a lot in advance
sa80libero
23-10-2013, 08:59
they are both excellent, but kessv2 to something more in my opinion....
Alfa159 q4
23-10-2013, 09:36
if you're talking about the original ok, why? the kess clone does not have active protocols for tractors
sa80libero
23-10-2013, 09:37
you speak of the original
magi1984
23-10-2013, 11:48
as the original kess whole life, the assistance alientech ? light years ahead compared to the cock
as the clones take a cock v54 again and go clear
I agree kess and go quiet.
danielecolantonio
23-10-2013, 18:49
unfortunately, I can't afford a kess original.. and then I don't have a activity?..I would like to do some mapping of my vehicles and a few friends...no profit..
danielecolantonio
23-10-2013, 19:32
ok..but where can I find it?
leandro89
23-10-2013, 20:14
You can try to contact the admin for the product in question
danielecolantonio
23-10-2013, 20:31
if you don't hurry take it direct from china on ebay
danielecolantonio
26-10-2013, 13:20
you say the version v53?
leandro89
26-10-2013, 14:55
if you don't hurry take it direct from china on ebay
attention there are people who don't know what sells, write tested, excellent product, replaced the components to make it better etc, you know how many versions there are of these products? clones, clones clones, and clones of clones of clones, if you will excuse the turn of phrase. nailed to the ecu ? for a moment, and then begin the trouble.
a personal advice: do not buy products where you do not know the source, look for at least a minimum of assistance.
sa80libero
26-10-2013, 18:26
quoto perfectly leandro89 careful guys....
passion engines
26-10-2013, 18:44
Hello, if you are looking for you start to talk about the v1.93 and end the problems of the limits of writing
danielecolantonio
26-10-2013, 18:55
what do you mean with v. 1.93?
passion engines
26-10-2013, 19:11
Works missing only a few correction to the new protocols, but soon it should get even that
danielecolantonio
27-10-2013, 17:09
you must be talking about kess clone?
passion engines
27-10-2013, 19:05
passion engines
27-10-2013, 19:06
you must be talking about kess clone? Hello, you......
danielecolantonio
28-10-2013, 00:33
guys but back to the cock...what do you recommend as my first purchase from beginner, v52, which is very easily in italy or the v53 that very probably will have to? order it from some chinese website?
infinityecu
30-10-2013, 13:07
guys but back to the cock...what do you recommend as my first purchase from beginner, v52, which is very easily in italy or the v53 that very probably will have to? order it from some chinese website?
Hello daniel, the clone must be really good even why? there are thousands of versions that they sell, and then are ciofeca, I can tell you that my cock v2 that I bought at the price of 250 euro including shipping ? great and up to now I have worked both in serial and to tour in the bdm and possibly happen to a malfunction of the apparatus can count on a support, why? send it directly to the mother house where they make them
danielecolantonio
30-10-2013, 23:29
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 00:21
The purchased on-line, but not from the chinese :-)
Hello I am Joseph I took a galletto v53 and when I have some problem with the Magpro 4.2, Mpps 13.2 the figure and for ever the cock.
I believe that the Kess is specific to some of the cars that now I can't remember.
the only problem of the galleto that I could not get it to work bench
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 00:37
Hello I am Joseph I took a galletto v53 and when I have some problem with the Magpro 4.2, Mpps 13.2 the figure and for ever the cock.
I believe that the Kess is specific to some of the cars that now I can't remember.
the only problem of the galleto that I could not get it to work bench
Hi Peppino, I do not know where and what you bought but you have to know that the galleti v2 clones good really should function in both bdm or a tour through a serial (eobd) and I can assure you that with my up to now never had any of these problems :-) Then the versions really for the clones do not exist why? what does it matter ? the chipset drivers are mounted inside and the programming that they have on the inside of the card ;-)
for what I understand I have told who to me sold, and only the settings of the pc in the English language, etc.. and that in any case you program to a memory of the HW through the program, I was able to get it to work in the obd but on the bench I gave up, maybe my PC has 2 gH as I explained, and as on the LAPTOP BRAND DELL
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 00:57
for what I understand I have told who to me sold, and only the settings of the pc in the English language, etc.. and that in any case you program to a memory of the HW through the program, I was able to get it to work in the obd but on the bench I gave up, maybe my PC has 2 gH as I explained, and as on the LAPTOP BRAND DELL
Peppino a hardware and a software if they are done well must operate, and simply does not exist, that part of it works and some not, and that program that you have defined them do not ? other than the usb fix and then if ? the version v53 as they say on another pc is not allowed? work but, again, according to me, all bagianate even why? my friends who have remitted the money, unfortunately, I have seen many then what counts ? be lucky to find the honest seller that will give you not say so much, but at least a p? of assistance and, subsequently, a product that works 100 % :-)
And then for programming I don't mean the program that you mentioned you on the post before, but a fully set up all the parameters to the factory or the manufacturer itself used to be able to operate the controller with the specifications that go to read about the product...........
however, now the news? with the new applications on the laws that he has decreed the Mountains,
all of these interfaces to map the ecu is not going to help more?, except for the strengthening of the engine.
The workshops are not authorized will have access as the dealerships
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 14:15
however, now the news? with the new applications on the laws that he has decreed the Mountains,
all of these interfaces to map the ecu is not going to help more?, except for the strengthening of the engine.
The workshops are not authorized will have access as the dealerships
I'm sorry, peppino I have not well understood the fact of the programmer with the laws of the mountains
Sorry , but since I read so many messages (pu? be that someone for me ? escaped) in which all I ask is which ? the right one and which is not , in the pi? I answer my work very well ? a matter of luck ..... but you could make a nice discussion where the luck we try to limit it even why? however, when you talk about bad luck when you throw money , I was wondering if the Lucky ones could post a picture of the hardware , possibly if visible and readable even the abbreviations of the major chip .
I think that by doing so perhaps we limit a p? the unlucky ones (like me) .
Thanks
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 15:46
Sorry , but since I read so many messages (pu? be that someone for me ? escaped) in which all I ask is which ? the right one and which is not , in the pi? I answer my work very well ? a matter of luck ..... but you could make a nice discussion where the luck we try to limit it even why? however, when you talk about bad luck when you throw money , I was wondering if the Lucky ones could post a picture of the hardware , possibly if visible and readable even the abbreviations of the major chip .
I think that by doing so perhaps we limit a p? the unlucky ones (like me) .
Thanks
You're right, corrado as soon as I have time to do the photos at the cock disassembled the place ;-)
beginning with my , Picture of the FG tech V53 components are not readable (with a dongle) .
the Fgtech in question seems to not be working for the j-tag with Delphi DCM3.7AP
I'm sorry that I still can not view the photos (at least up to 80 messages) .
Sorry , but since I read so many messages (pu? be that someone for me ? escaped) in which all I ask is which ? the right one and which is not , in the pi? I answer my work very well ? a matter of luck ..... but you could make a nice discussion where the luck we try to limit it even why? however, when you talk about bad luck when you throw money , I was wondering if the Lucky ones could post a picture of the hardware , possibly if visible and readable even the abbreviations of the major chip .
I think that by doing so perhaps we limit a p? the unlucky ones (like me) .
I was expecting the question your Infinityecu, what does the policy with interfaces,
yesterday I was in a refresher course diagnostic and promotions of diagnostic products,
we have imformati that according to a law passed in 2011 by the Mountains
requires manufacturers the chance? access to the operators and mechanics.
You just need to have a interface TXT register on authorized dealers with a micro subscription, and do all that is a dealer authorized, ( BUT I SAY ALL ) the system ? a p? complex but will work well. Put an end to people being forced to pay you good money to fix their vehicle in the dealership
the authorized dealers believe that they work less,
and in this way, the manufacturers they'll be fine in millions of Euro, there will be contracts on an annual basis.
how many thousand mechanical workshops in Europe think the dealers, pay a small subscription to the manufacturer in this way
incasser? money from all over the world.
I was expecting the question your Infinityecu, what does the policy with interfaces,
yesterday I was in a refresher course diagnostic and promotions of diagnostic products,
we have imformati that according to a law passed in 2011 by the Mountains
requires manufacturers the chance? access to the operators and mechanics.
You just need to have a interface TXT register on authorized dealers with a micro subscription, and do all that is a dealer authorized, ( BUT I SAY ALL ) the system ? a p? complex but will work well. Put an end to people being forced to pay you good money to fix their vehicle in the dealership
for the first 2 years the output of a model, the houses are not obligated to give anything, then from the third "must" but do it for a fee and are not always micro subscriptions, indeed, I can assure you that sometimes they are very expensive.
infinityecu
31-10-2013, 23:17
I was expecting the question your Infinityecu, what does the policy with interfaces,
yesterday I was in a refresher course diagnostic and promotions of diagnostic products,
we have imformati that according to a law passed in 2011 by the Mountains
requires manufacturers the chance? access to the operators and mechanics.
You just need to have a interface TXT register on authorized dealers with a micro subscription, and do all that is a dealer authorized, ( BUT I SAY ALL ) the system ? a p? complex but will work well. Put an end to people being forced to pay you good money to fix their vehicle in the dealership
According to me, born the law comes the deception dear peppino and still quoto porter actually consider that we are in italy :-)
leandro89
31-10-2013, 23:30
you are going to be out of the question if you are talking about laws, etc., we try to keep the topic of discussion, and not to get lost on the policy
unlike Cock or any other interface, the interface of the new generation TXT iso 22900 will link with the manufacturers or dealers and will? - time, contract, full annual , 1 month, 2 months etc . also 1 hour as VW. example to encode a key would take 10 minutes you have bought the pats of 1 now you have 50 minutes.
sportknight
01-11-2013, 22:49
I took a v53 chinese, and I've tested jtag with a delphi 2.6 merdedes and bdm with marelli and edc16,in the k-line with a dde4 bwm and for now has not missed a shot,? without a dongle, and I had no problems during the installation
I have installed windows xp,I changed the date,installed languages, and the program is loaded,everything is perfect!!
costs less than a ktag and kessv2 and does the same things... without problems token...
if it is all as it should safe ? best of ktag and kessv2 as the price and performance!!
actually for what is the cost ? a good deal, I was the only thing that I could not make it work in BDM perhaps for the file FTDI,
explode82
01-11-2013, 23:35
as always, I say better the v53 chinese from all points of view
infinityecu
02-11-2013, 21:18
as always, I say better the v53 chinese from all points of view
For? to be honest if you have both ? even better because? sometimes with one tool you can do things that another does not ? possible, and sometimes the contrary ;-)
here is the point that you can't? to say that one ? better than the other if you have them, the two of you are a step ahead of what it does not do one the other is doing then with regards to how they work are two very different tools....
sportknight
02-11-2013, 22:40
well of course if I had kessv2 and ktag definitely I would put the best of the rooster, but I have the impression that they do the same job then it would be pi? more a question of price...
as far as the clones, instead, currently the top ? the v53 if it works...
explode82
02-11-2013, 23:54
if you are talking about gold , I can assure you that you are wrong,the kess+ktag are not the best of the cock and you say why? the original I have all three and the same, and are offset from each other, for example, banal, the cock is the edc17c10 of the psa group serial and the kess no, vice versa, the kess is the edc17c18 opel from the serial port and the cock no...............this is to say that I conpensano their shortcomings to each other
you ? true when you enter in the protocols ? so sometimes one makes the other one not then solve ? a bit of diagnostic tools, you can not have just one, you need at least two valid then you you gold even better......
msport (exil77grande)
03-11-2013, 09:50
today having ktag and kess v2 ori there was no camera present in the list that I have not been able to do by other programmers instead connect with gallo's official I had to come to me because I could not do some of the machines in the list has to be noted that the kind of assistance would say always the same thing (it's strange to us, not ever),not to mention the reliability, in fact, with kess today I blocked only 2 units on hundreds then get always in serial with the recovery function; instead, the cock leaves a bit to be desired, and can confirm the user michell that lately it has blocked more than written without problems and that sort of assistance always says the same things (strange to us, not ever).
they are of the same opinion and have both and stay serene
I recommend a v54 european and very good
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 11:26
from the former owner of galletto 1260 and current owner of mpps v12, kess ? the kess guys do not mess around: costs a lot of money for?...
The best choice according to me for? ? the classic fg-tech-v53/v54 ? the choice of pi? that makes sense given the cost of content and is also the jtag and bdm...
motorsport
25-01-2014, 12:17
All-in-one and also perfect reliable,kess and k tags are also the top!!!
carlo abarth
25-01-2014, 12:54
but why underestimated the cock v53...I do it almost all and you are not yet ignited as it happened to someone wants to diure who are lucky and it has components that other cock there..and one of the first that came out, and still has the dongle!!!!galletto clone forever...whoever!!!1
from the former owner of galletto 1260 and current owner of mpps v12, kess ? the kess guys do not mess around: costs a lot of money for?...
The best choice according to me for? ? the classic fg-tech-v53/v54 ? the choice of pi? that makes sense given the cost of content and is also the jtag and bdm...
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 13:24
You for? however, even if ? the top, however, you always need a k-tag if you then want to do a tour and then the cock, even if it is less expensive, allows you the most? alternatives Then of course the best thing would be to take them all for?!!!!
ciullo.eugenio
25-01-2014, 14:10
You for? however, even if ? the top, however, you always need a k-tag if you then want to do a tour and then the cock, even if it is less expensive, allows you the most? alternatives Then of course the best thing would be to take them all for?!!!!
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 03:18
I think that the cock v2 is truly exceptional in terms of price and functionality? and there you can? do everything as if you take the kess at the end there, you can only work in the obd and you can not do the same jobs that you do with the rooster, for example, bdm boot jtag etc therefore buy a cock v2 is a very good self-diagnosis of a soldering station of the type atten value for money? price and you are affixed to be able to work and do everything without spending money who knows? how much money and have to force the pi? programmers for no reason in my opinion seen the differences.........Then if you have money to throw away better yet have more? a programmer to have to say more? shoulders covered in my opinion
ciullo.eugenio
01-02-2014, 11:26
I ask the pi? experts: it's not? if I go ot, but between the bdm100 and fg-tech-v53 what would you take? between the two of who ? what the f? really? I'm interested in working on siemens (the type that is mounted on the golf course), magneti marelli (fiat), edc16 and edc17 general...
edit. I mean the pi? stable and safe, even...
Honestly ? a question that the time that is! However, they are two different things to the Bdm 100 is the ecu only Bdm and then we talk about d edc16 and ecu that support that particular type of reading, the rooster, instead, allows you to work from the obd boot Bdm tricore ( edc17), and if you talk about v53 also jtag
ciullo.eugenio
01-02-2014, 23:11
Honestly ? a question that the time that is! However, they are two different things to the Bdm 100 is the ecu only Bdm and then we talk about d edc16 and ecu that support that particular type of reading, the rooster, instead, allows you to work from the obd boot Bdm tricore ( edc17), and if you talk about v53 also jtag
Thanks friend ;)
vicfurpac
02-02-2014, 03:47
Hi guys, sorry for the umpteenth my question. But before doing the steps wrong, I prefer to always ask.I in addition to cars, I would need to remap two tractors, a dear friend of mine, specifically of the New Holland Ts125. I read from the site of alientech that the kess v2 is doing it, now I don't know if the clone does the same, what do you think? What do you advise me kess v2 clone or fgtech galletto?
Thanks a lot in advance
Hello. Kess v2 clone, I believe, not just cars. Kess v2 original is traucks, tracktor, marine, but, ? need to buy protocols and are expensive.
FGTech clone, instead, the tractors, but only the ones listed on FGTech.
guys but back to the cock...what do you recommend as my first purchase from beginner, v52, which is very easily in italy or the v53 that very probably will have to? order it from some chinese website?
text moderate why? written in English
as always, I say better the v53 chinese from all points of view
The only problem so far was the installation of the software v53:D
Sorry , but since I read so many messages (pu? be that someone for me ? escaped) in which all I ask is which ? the right one and which is not , in the pi? I answer my work very well ? a matter of luck ..... but you could make a nice discussion where the luck we try to limit it even why? however, when you talk about bad luck when you throw money , I was wondering if the Lucky ones could post a picture of the hardware , possibly if visible and readable even the abbreviations of the major chip .
I think that by doing so perhaps we limit a p? the unlucky ones (like me) .
Thanks
I would like to send you some files for me to work with FGTech but I have not yet reached the 80 messages.:(
ciullo.eugenio
02-02-2014, 09:59
mechanical 85
02-02-2014, 10:35
Hello everyone I am a new member. I was unsure of what to buy x map but now that I have read all your forum are more confused still. I'm starting now and I want to make a basic course and buy a clone that is more suited to my needs, i.e. no fap no egr scodifiche, change any of the map to drive the most common ford fiat opel peuget, etc for both gasoline and diesel what do you advise me please help me
Sorry if I've completed my presentation. As I wrote before, my name is gaetano the game, I have 29 years of leonforte (en) are a mechanic for more than 14 years, I am writing to this forum because I think that it is important for me and I can serve in the future, however, I must say that you are prepared and humble ciaooo
ciullo.eugenio
02-02-2014, 10:42
Hello everyone I am a new member. I was unsure of what to buy x map but now that I have read all your forum are more confused still. I'm starting now and I want to make a basic course and buy a clone that is more suited to my needs, i.e. no fap no egr scodifiche, change any of the map to drive the most common ford fiat opel peuget, etc for both gasoline and diesel what do you advise me please help me
Hello everyone I am a new member. I was unsure of what to buy x map but now that I have read all your forum are more confused still. I'm starting now and I want to make a basic course and buy a clone that is more suited to my needs, i.e. no fap no egr scodifiche, change any of the map to drive the most common ford fiat opel peuget, etc for both gasoline and diesel what do you advise me please help me
the interface that you have suggested is fine, but remember that only serves to read and write a lot ecu, to do the jobs that you say "no fap egr scodifiche and edit maps", then you'll need to do the interface does absolutely of these jobs, you have to edit the files, or you have to lean on someone doing it for you.
mechanical 85
02-02-2014, 11:53
I understand but the better kess or fg tech v53'm always x the clone which is the most simple and the most complete
ciullo.eugenio
02-02-2014, 12:53
I understand but the better kess or fg tech v53'm always x the clone which is the most simple and the most complete
vicfurpac
02-02-2014, 15:44
I understand but the better kess or fg tech v53'm always x the clone which is the most simple and the most complete
ciullo.eugenio
05-02-2014, 15:25
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