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jovandj
05-10-2013, 19:19
hi all, I have found this to be a mod within a control unit of a 147 150 hp of my friend, the car is fine and it pushes really hard, every so often for? complains about recovery and the car plant at 2100 rpm, however, the diagnosis cannot see any error and restarting the car goes well again, DPF excluded from the map, but not with the tube open, but with the cat of the old euro 3, the lambda probe is still connected, but has taped somewhere that I have not seen.
that can be attached the ori, who gave me him and the mod that I read I the ori already been posted in the database

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jovandj
07-10-2013, 01:33
Some expert help me please

ugoboss
07-10-2013, 07:25
by removing the management of the dpf has been removed, also the dtc, so that you don't have any error in diagnosis, repair the areas and then test until you turn on the mil and see where or what it is that is wrong.

jovandj
07-10-2013, 08:55
I commend the dtc-ori, even if by error dpf, or should I try directly from the map ori, and bypass them with policy...only I have the error I'm reporting in the meantime to ****s the map we are making it clear that it was not made by me

ugoboss
07-10-2013, 09:15
I get ori the whole area dtc, then see what it tells you, in the map, it was touched a little, but if all goes well to the customer.

jovandj
07-10-2013, 09:44
I've tried the machine and it goes very well pushes discreetly and very linear, and I thank you for the response and of the council, as the customer, and very worried about this error I wanted to know if this map can break the engine or the other, he wants to stay with the car with this map but with the problem solved
Thanks again

ugoboss
07-10-2013, 10:11
find the error and then fix the issue.

jovandj
07-10-2013, 10:18
In fact I'm moving on I just wanted to know if with this map, the customer can damage the car

ugoboss
07-10-2013, 10:39
in my humble opinion it's not.

jovandj
07-10-2013, 10:46
Thank you very much

jovandj
07-10-2013, 18:35
find the error and then fix the issue.

then I solved the problem of the recovery in the DP was badly the tie, and as the heat lost gas discharge, I noticed taking it a bit aggressive for 15 to 20 minutes and I felt smarmittare came from the DP I immediately noticed the loss and put in order all now no more in the recovery, while as regards the map DTC you can give me some address, in particular, to put back ori, because I would like that if it happened something else in addition to have recovery I would like the classic warning "motor abnormality" and can??

nasone147
07-10-2013, 21:53

nasone147
07-10-2013, 22:12

jovandj
07-10-2013, 22:23
The map does not l I've made...I've only read about this car and then a friend...anyway, it goes really well with the machine

jovandj
07-10-2013, 22:31
If you help me or explain to me the addresses I try to fix I

nasone147
07-10-2013, 22:40
I can help you but if you don't have a basic knowledge of everything perhaps ? better if you trust in the online service of the forum!

jovandj
07-10-2013, 23:09
Well the basics are there at least we try, then if not it's nothing

nasone147
08-10-2013, 12:43
Ok so tonight I'll give you a hand!:) now I'm at work, and with the cell!

jovandj
08-10-2013, 12:58
Available thanks

explode82
08-10-2013, 18:42
the map ? very lacking in the torque limiter ? done and also the timing of fuel injection even if in a very poor quality,the pedal you can still give a nice p?,egr and swirl closed? was given a p? of advance,but not stiaamo even half a degree, it lacks the management rail and limiters,
I would start with doing the 2 limiters rail 1E6C74 and 1E6BC6
rail 1E682C
review times 1DC0DE and I would like to start from the sixth gobbetta and from the destination of the gobbetta
redo the pedal 1C1674 starting from 5 gobbetta with the similar maps

nasone147
08-10-2013, 18:56

jovandj
08-10-2013, 19:34
ok perfect thanks for all the advice explode82, listen to you and be returned to the problem of recovery even after replacing the tie, damn it, not to me but to the customer, I think that it is a problem of turbo pressure, if I put back all the original DTC also will have the errors of the DPF, I might try to copy them from a 150HP without DPF, but has HW and SW different code I speak, what do you think??

explode82
08-10-2013, 19:38
very likely to be the turbo,but do not put my hand in the fire,it could also be a problem of high pressure in the rail,but the car turns off or goes into recoveri?

jovandj
08-10-2013, 20:26
very likely to be the turbo,but do not put my hand in the fire,it could also be a problem of high pressure in the rail,but the car turns off or goes into recoveri?

go into recovery to 2100 rpm split, but in the diagnosis nothing because as you have seen in the map is missing the DTC.

thanks for the support

nasone147
08-10-2013, 21:21
go into recovery to 2100 rpm split, but in the diagnosis nothing because as you have seen in the map is missing the DTC.

thanks for the support
make a diagnosis of a movement by monitoring the pressure of turbocharger and diesel fuel, and watch the values at the time of recovery! ;)

jovandj
08-10-2013, 21:48
and the problem is that the recovery has him in release, not in the shot, so I think that it is a problem of turbo pressure that the control unit if the expected to the most high that, instead, there, tomorrow I try with the client to check with the turbo pressure and the pressure of the diesel with its graph, and we see the recovery as there is and

ugoboss
08-10-2013, 22:47
these cars have always had problems with the geometry of the turbo that hardens up to hang,.

jovandj
08-10-2013, 22:56
On that we agree, we say in addition to this problem (hardware) already noticed also on my gt 150 hp controllero the operation even if it seems to me regular

nasone147
09-10-2013, 12:39
L actuator moves when you turn on the picture?

jovandj
09-10-2013, 13:43
The geometry works, and just maybe a little hard but not so

jovandj
13-10-2013, 00:45
So guys thank you all for the support, the problem I solved in decreasing the pressure from the turbo 2500 rpm down more than I have added 3-4% of diesel fuel at high revs to have a little bit of extension in the more...the clt and was satisfied and I thank you again for your help