View The Full Version : map Audi A6 2.5 tdi 180 hp rotary vane pump
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 21:16
Hello all, I'm becoming crazy with this car, the customer me the door with the map preparer, the exhaust, do I try the map made by me, always attached, but the machine does not change the supply, I state machine with the engine rebuilt, after a couple of days ago out of the fuel pump, never changed 300000km had been replaced on the engine was rebuilt, today I return, let's try the other test, but the machine only takes a little speed to low and walls after 3000 rpm loading map of ori and the car goes just a little below 2000 rpm, but it goes much better above 2000 rpm nettamenglio of tuttwe the other maps, I have to say that the coach who made the first map ? also quite famous in the us.
I ask for help because I do not know where to head banging, oc current market but I have not found pocoe nothing on this engine, ecu ? a edc15 P
Jo made smepre another audi rotary pump, an old 1.9 110cv ? it should be that ? a love, but this just can't get it to go
according to me, no ? a problem of the map....
elettro72
02-10-2013, 22:27
you have not made a diagnosis? pu? be the air mass meter........
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 22:47
it is in the workshop near here with tool bosch but it is all ok, I tried 2 maps, I made one by modifying only torque limiters and increasing the diesel and turbo, but doesn't want to go, the walls to the top, ori let's say that the bass is a bit less not really dead, but then from 2000 rpm and up it goes that ? a bomb, as it should go, I never worked a lot with the rotary pump, the wadi to the 3 that I did go to the grand, but here not knowing if the maps are right I do not know if ? a problem of the map m that say to me, munro, both of the maps my preparer should be prestazionalmente that are greater than the ori?
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 22:47
with maps, mod up to 2000 rpm ? more responsive but then the walls
test the map with advances stock...
pu? be that the pompista has played a p? with the registration of the solenoid command advances in pump....
and now, may be already early on? then the map c'? another advance, and then you feel the wall...
Alfa159 q4
02-10-2013, 23:17
Exchanged the ancient people for injection...c'? to do damage
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:18
for advances do you mean the various iniez zoned "the names of the cabbage ecm" from the curves I was pretty sure that they were advances, I also did this test, map with advances ori, but I can't honestly tell if you don't touch any of the limiter, and if the map diesel is in fact the map to the 06E7CA and later 4, then c'? also the map the pedal to 06DFCE that the mapper had not even touched on, there are a misery of maps iq between various maps to a minimum, at full load, I think that do not serve tap those for the performance
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:20
I even thought of one other thing, being a rotary pump, as gesticce the ecu advances, now, I have not opened the engine, but the fuel injectors are controlled by the ecu? in the opening I mean, why on many rotary pump old and the pins opened with the inertia force of the fuel pump, through contromolla preset, I really do not know if it is actually on this engine advance and the quantity of fuel to be managed only from the pump or from iniettrori elettropilotati
on the car with a rotary pump that you have to be also attentive to the map voltage pump....
them controls all of the pump...the inniettori are mechanical....
Alfa159 q4
02-10-2013, 23:21
It's up to lim torque, pedal and turbo and test
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:22
in fact, when I opened the map and noticed the shape of the curve, and how he had changed ?2mappatore"or crooked nose, down payments, so I have never seen modified or said, but I have to say ? very famous in the whole of umbria, will know what, probabilmetnte was wrong
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:22
ok, you feel alpha, and already I see you ferrato, I found as you can see from the maps other torque limiters furo drivers, are useful, or I follow only 3 of the driver of the ecm?
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:24
you I noticed at my expense on a 110cv.... at 3800 rpm cut, the map voltage too high
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:26
now I prepare the map, the place, and tomorrow when I go back in the workshop I call him and I do come ae we riprovarla
the same thing happens with the voltage the solenoid advances in pump...
if you exceed a tot...
cutting....
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:34
here I try tomorrow so, map the pedal, 3lim of torque and the turbo, see if it goes
a question, the map inj zoned that is, the map diesel, has in the y-axis spins, and in the x-axis, mm3), and in the values represents the vopltaggio of the pump right? it seems to me that the threshold is 8500 or 9000 I don't remember, the stessop applies to map the pedal if I'm not mistaken
iniez zoned should be a lim fumes on the base map I think...
then that axis, that comes to a 9000, I believe, are mg of air....
of course, to convert...then will be 900 mg/str
I've written a map but I wanted to say a maf that air the mass air flow sensor.....
tidus1985
02-10-2013, 23:44
Then I had not understood anything, quindoli the map voltage pump "map diesel" which would be between them all? 4 maps for the smoke limiter according to the ari sucked in?
I don't want to be wrong, but the map voltage that the pump should stay out of driver....
then try to hear the opinion of someone else...
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 00:02
Tomorrow I start already? and I try
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 00:02
Thanks a lot anyway!!
elettro72
03-10-2013, 07:47
for the diagnosis if you have the vag com ? the ideal,then sorry if you've put the map ori, and the car has problems will not be? question of the map, but you have some other problem that you have to resolve first........
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 09:11
I sononben explained, ori go the less that is mapped to the low ? normal, to be mapped to the high walls, while gold is much better, now I'm the guy does not remember how he was the original, because he had taken with the engine destroyed, was cracked the camshaft and re-installed to make the engine with mapp, so I depend only on the diagnosis of the Bosch because I don't know it, I will him the behavior that is self-ori, a metric that has rebuilt the pump, the other yesterday, so it was also after the pump and before it was different with the pump over then ? a mystery. Today I feel with the way of the one-mapp mapedale limiters and turbo , the pompista said pump and injectors were OK, the injectors have been redone since? one was broken when he took it, and had to redo them also.
I sononben explained, ori go the less that is mapped to the low ? normal, to be mapped to the high walls, while gold is much better, now I'm the guy does not remember how he was the original, because he had taken with the engine destroyed, was cracked the camshaft and re-installed to make the engine with mapp, so I depend only on the diagnosis of the Bosch because I don't know it, I will him the behavior that is self-ori, a metric that has rebuilt the pump, the other yesterday, so it was also after the pump and before it was different with the pump over then ? a mystery. Today I feel with the way of the one-mapp mapedale limiters and turbo , the pompista said pump and injectors were OK, the injectors have been redone since? one was broken when he took it, and had to redo them also.
the engine is in the phase for good, are you sure?
tidus talking with a friend pompista reported to me that the car has no map voltage pump....
the ecu sends a signal via the can how much fuel you need and the pcm on the pump interpetra the signal and transforms it into a voltage via the pcm to give what is required.....
he says that probably in the ecu requires more than 50mg of diesel oil ? the physical limit that the pump can? give and this sends the pcm in the "conflict" why still not ? calibrated to give that diesel....
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 09:48
OK then map the pedal and cable, if the signal ? in can c, and little to do, you know the map, and expressed in mm3 mg or volt on the map the pedal?
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 09:51
You never learn, now that I think of it at first diagnosis with broken pump gave the error pump module, so you actually come back to feel the pump because of the message of the return of the can, in a normal pump ammeno failure directly to the control module that is change.oedenza to the coil of the pump, the ECU does not notice the failure.
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 09:52
Hi Ugo, you ? was called in phase from the pompista, as I said ori okay, even if to be a 180 hp and peppermint, will be for the wheel 18 and the traction four -, ? a machine 20 tons and passes
I think I should be mg....
the limit and 50-51.....
however, final fantasy x, the request from the pedal ? relative....
because then that request is "filtered" from various limiters...
the couple,fumes,etc...
therefore what counts and what the ecu sends to the "output" as required diesel...
if you exceed the 50-51 mg....size....
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 11:40
You go to act on the smoke limiter but I see the gi? that map exceeds 51mg, ammeno which that value is expressed in mm3, but I don't know, voltage ? safe given that the value is sent in the van and translated in Volts after
if you can help this is what is map to the same file.
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 13:19
thanks a lot hugh, then 6DD12 injection P. C. , I think it is not from the tap, I see that for every step it turns the maximum value ? always 9000, now I don't think I have ne mg ne mm2, the volt I suppose no, because the transmission ? in can, ammeno that does not give information on the can bus of the voltage, and would not pesno that you can overcome 9v, then, thinking of the bp and the second bp has maximum value 8100, I assume so is a percentage, maybe, but I'm not sure, it should get to 8200, then rpija of this map c'? also a limiter on the basis of the temperature begins on 6DC4A, your opinion? according to you ? touch is the map or ? only one map conversion, which should not be altered? I have to figure out the relevant ionterpretare values on this map and on the maps fumes
tidus1985
03-10-2013, 20:33
here is the latest map I made, let's try tomorrow, not today, and came, I datop a small increment to the map to 6dd12 to see if ? deleterious, or if it helps, I gave masx 1.5 degrees only at high flow rates of diesel for down payments, I have made 2 from try, this cdove I also found some limiters iq and the other the v7 with only map the pedal, lim torque and turbo, so try them all and 2 and I see where the problem lies
msport (exil77grande)
05-10-2013, 09:49
muy buen hole..
I invite you to read the rules,write in English, and especially to pass in the presentation section, thanks.
tidus1985
05-10-2013, 09:55
The last 2 maps are both good and not murano, all the others seem to be only the wall, thanks to all for the help
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