View The Full Version : Mapping Of The 500 Abarth
dantesfx
03-09-2013, 10:54
Hi,
I have a request.
I practically of file ori a pair of Abarth SS of friends, are the original files (I have them compared to those here in the section ori files), now I should upload them on two cars stock (135hp).
The engine control unit ? the same, change the external code, but this is the same exact model so I don't have problems (at the maximum must? correct the check?).
You have done 500 Abarth?With which tool and software recommended?
cristianbomberos
03-09-2013, 21:16
We talk about 500 new?
cristianbomberos
03-09-2013, 22:54
No I just wanted to know if we talked about the latest version of everything here!!!
legendaryslave
04-09-2013, 01:02
Hi,
I have a request.
I practically of file ori a pair of Abarth SS of friends, are the original files (I have them compared to those here in the section ori files), now I should upload them on two cars stock (135hp).
The engine control unit ? the same, change the external code, but this is the same exact model so I don't have problems (at the maximum must? correct the check?).
You have done 500 Abarth?With which tool and software recommended?
you have to load the file copleto not only from 832kb but the 2 mega to transform it into a ss and you don't need to touch the e2p if you need more I have some reading full
spatullo
05-09-2013, 17:52
I don't really understand : let's say we need to do a kit SS "home made". With regard to the control unit, taking the file SS with the same number, HW, just copy the 832Kb via serial? Or even having the same HW unit must be written to the 2Mb integers?
I don't really understand : let's say we need to do a kit SS "home made". With regard to the control unit, taking the file SS with the same number, HW, just copy the 832Kb via serial? Or even having the same HW unit must be written to the 2Mb integers?
how do you not understand, you have just written above legendaryslave.
spatullo
05-09-2013, 20:08
I asked a question more? specification : WITH the SAME NUMBER of HW ? anyway, need to write the 2Mb for the whole?
legendaryslave
05-09-2013, 20:21
I asked a question more? specification : WITH the SAME NUMBER of HW ? anyway, need to write the 2Mb for the whole?
go put the files from the two mega-130 from the 160 hp does not differ for the hw, but only for the soft
I asked a question more? specification : WITH the SAME NUMBER of HW ? anyway, need to write the 2Mb for the whole?
I did not absolutely say that you're stupid, and that it was so clear that if you make a change of this kind you have always starting from the same hw and then you have to write the complete file, 2 mb because over the curves change management.
spatullo
06-09-2013, 10:27
Someone has files from 2Mb to pass me that they have the same HW? I would like to see well what to change. Grazieeee
legendaryslave
06-09-2013, 13:11
then the venue and the place in the database
dantesfx
01-02-2014, 16:36
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legendaryslave
01-02-2014, 17:39
****.
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?21-500-abarth&p=67129#post67129
they are here for the complete readings in the boot
leandro89
02-02-2014, 16:11
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I invite you to read the rules, write certain phrases ? prohibited by regulation
dantesfx
02-02-2014, 17:09
I invite you to read the rules, write certain phrases ? prohibited by regulation
I'm sorry, but I find it absurd that the counter of messages is completely out of line and I had 130 messages and now I'm only 25??
claudio-abarth
02-02-2014, 17:10
going back to the post,in the case of a grande punto abarth 155,replacing the turbine injectors and sensors with those of the 180,in parit? of HW I have to write always the SW 2Mb?
leandro89
02-02-2014, 22:53
I'm sorry, but I find it absurd that the counter of messages is completely out of line and I had 130 messages and now I'm only 25??
if you had been paying attention to the forum you would have noticed the reason for this decrease of the messages
legendaryslave
03-02-2014, 14:25
going back to the post,in the case of a grande punto abarth 155,replacing the turbine injectors and sensors with those of the 180,in parit? of HW I have to write always the SW 2Mb?
I think that it is the same passage from 130-160 very important thing the code hw must be identical and, of course, you have to write the file to 2mega
claudio-abarth
03-02-2014, 23:37
nn if I write the file to 2Mb, what happens?the car nn part?or risk of breaking everything?
legendaryslave
04-02-2014, 00:04
nn if I write the file to 2Mb, what happens?the car nn part?or risk of breaking everything?
I think that you do not go I do not know a proof that I have ever done, knowing that the transactions are on the micro-logic, when you cabia soft to the ecu it also changed the micro, given that in this type of ? all integrated I have thought of consequence
claudio-abarth
04-02-2014, 13:10
ah I understand,maybe when I do? the work I do na test and tell you what happens,but the complete file from 2Mb how can I write?with mpps?
ah I understand,maybe when I do? the work I do na test and tell you what happens,but the complete file from 2Mb how can I write?with mpps?
throw mpps go-the-counter and is much more secure
We do not try mpps that the blocks
legendaryslave
04-02-2014, 13:57
Preferably or necessarily in boot mode
But sorry to pro to write the map ss? But have you compared the file ori and ss at least?
claudio-abarth
04-02-2014, 23:01
But sorry to pro to write the map ss? But have you compared the file ori and ss at least?
sorry but if I want to mount the turbine,the fuel injectors and sensors of the GPA 180 hp,we leave the map of the 155?I don't think!for what I want to write a map of the ss
claudio-abarth
04-02-2014, 23:02
Preferably or necessarily in boot mode
ok,with what interface?I would have already? mpps,and they told me that when she wrote it
If you mount those components c'? I would put even less of the map ss.... I would do the tour with the probes for the exhaust gas temperature and the afr..... Then you're ****** to write what you want in the ecu
claudio-abarth
05-02-2014, 12:20
If you mount those components c'? I would put even less of the map ss.... I would do the tour with the probes for the exhaust gas temperature and the afr..... Then you're ****** to write what you want in the ecu
seen that time to study the map I have little,and the car serves me,the method faster for you to use ? to write the map of the ss,then calmly, and with much study(and perhaps with a p? your suggestions and help) scriver? a better map,but for now....
The rooster makes in the boot. But it seems to me that pulls out a file that does not recognize the driver if a mistake
This ? another question...
claudio-abarth
05-02-2014, 22:37
ok,but in the end I did not understand if mpps I can write the file to 2Mb of ss
I advise you to read the original file... Or at least get an original that you can write with mpps. You can only read at boot, now I can't remember if mpps writes the file to 2 mega. But not ? there you can throw in a file ss cos? in the case
unlocker1984
06-02-2014, 19:11
With mpps as told by legendary nn write and block, usa Gallo v2 but you have to open the ecu and write-the-counter
With the cock you can also try to read in the serial but pulls out a file from takes 839kb nn recognizes the ecm unless you perform the cutting of the file ( always with ecm) following the guidance of legendary in the forum
I the file of the ferrari tribute to 832kb and 180 hp, so to speak Ecm recognized, I have...
I have seen the differences with a stock from 135cv and I have to say that with these cars nn ? simple remap, some of you have the file ss the original 160cv from 832kb that the ecm reads???
You say that the tribute has 180 hp.... Sar? the truth?? I only know that the 135 stock-only map we get to the cavalry... And I also think that the map of the tribute of a missing 60% of the changes to make strong the engine...
the 135cv not arriver? never 180 hp ...
provided that you operate mechanically with the replacement of the components and a remapping the appropriate...
we are talking about a 1.4...
? gi? too much for him...
in addition, the original mapping shall adhere to the standards euro5
In fact, I meant that .. The 135 stock there arriver? never...
claudio-abarth
07-02-2014, 11:59
but the 500 tributo ferrari arrives at 180 hp and why? has the components of the gpa ss (garrett turbine,injectors and sensors),can't get there-only map
Exactly... So, insert a map to the increments of the tribute on a 135 the time that is...
unlocker1984
07-02-2014, 12:54
With a single map without mechanical intervention tend to lean too much to the mix and you can do damage... but with due precaution mechanical ( those highlighted by claudio, who has missed only the cams) the car changes, with garrett 1446, you can easily arrive at 200cv with the map is made to perfection.
Beyond this threshold, you must then focus on turbines of different type, such as td04 or protoxide... Ah, last thing, be careful not to give too much torque because the exchange gives...
claudio-abarth
07-02-2014, 13:09
the cams I mentioned why? I'm not sure at 100% that the change,I can inform you better and I want to know
legendaryslave
07-02-2014, 14:02
I arrived at 230 hp, but ? was a pretty violent transformation
unlocker1984
07-02-2014, 18:40
Very good nn c'? that said, and with the change??? You put the GPA???
legendaryslave
07-02-2014, 22:23
Very good nn c'? that said, and with the change??? You put the GPA???
no change we still have one of the ss is holding for the moment the clutch instead of not holding those powers,on the car ? mounted turbine derivation mitzubischi, hybrid, all of the exhaust including manifolds and steel group, N-crafts , intercouler increased, sleeves, silicone, replaced the injectors with upgraded, reinforced clutch, the map that made me flip all the damos, the car has this peculiarity, that in the normal situation does not provide more than 130hp with the function of sports unleashes all his anger
claudio-abarth
07-02-2014, 22:31
the cams I checked out and are not replaced,the 500 tributo ferrari has the same cams of the 500 stocks,and the same as the gpa 155 and ff The clutch for? ? to change
legendaryslave
07-02-2014, 23:40
the cams I checked out and are not replaced,the 500 tributo ferrari has the same cams of the 500 stocks,and the same as the gpa 155 and ff The clutch for? ? to change
it does not take into tends to slip
giannimini
14-02-2014, 16:01
guys tell me if I understood well:
galletto law IN SERIAL a file that the ecm does not recognize ... but then you can? edit in 2d, where appropriate, and rewrite.
galletto law to boot a file from 2mb that can? be always modified in 2d and be written always in the boot
mpps are not law, but is the id, so if you need to recover a file with the same hw and sw, and write that.
if you want to bring a 135 a 160 hp then. or write in the boot file from 2 mega full essesse
or you retrieve the file that you can? write with mpps (12 or meglio5 according to you) and write via serial...
I said it right or not :-) ?
of course, you have to write in the boot with the cock, I mean a file with the same hw... why? of course the software ? different.
and then that sareppe ec id... I don't understand
legendaryslave
14-02-2014, 21:46
[QUOTE=giannimini;82990]guys tell me if I understood well:
galletto law IN SERIAL a file that the ecm does not recognize ... but then you can? edit in 2d, where appropriate, and rewrite.
galletto law to boot a file from 2mb that can? be always modified in 2d and be written always in the boot
mpps are not law, but is the id, so if you need to recover a file with the same hw and sw, and write that.
if you want to bring a 135 a 160 hp then. or write in the boot file from 2 mega full essesse
the wing reads from the serial the virtual is not real-it takes it from the database 896kb that ? the exact same file you read in the boot can be cut off to get it to recognize the ecm but I do not recommend to try it out and riscivere the serial once riallungato,in the boot you get the chance and to read the engine management(896) argortimo of the strategies of the processor and the engine together (2mega)
if woi change the file from 2 mega no one you forbid it because it contains the management engine to perform the transformation software serves the whole of the reading processor 2 sorceress,
mpps let him just miss out on this ecu
giannimini
14-02-2014, 22:53
Yes, but I don't know if the rooster who have has a data bank. If it works with the database, I open the file in 2D, and modify the curves as the map essesse to rewrite the file by the size of the cock
I don't want to try my hand in size and cuc?, I do not say.
Senn? I write all the files from the two mega boot of the essesse. Always if or remedy
legendaryslave
15-02-2014, 00:56
Yes, but I don't know if the rooster who have has a data bank. If it works with the database, I open the file in 2D, and modify the curves as the map essesse to rewrite the file by the size of the cock
I don't want to try my hand in size and cuc?, I do not say.
Senn? I write all the files from the two mega boot of the essesse. Always if or remedy
it is in the database I posted I
giannimini
15-02-2014, 01:40
Ok so I guess that this will have in the boot then... let's Hope that has both the same, and I write this from 2 mega essesse ;-)
Thanks for posting the file, and for the tips ;-)
Without soldering, you say that you can? write with the needles resting on where to weld?
Would we do it in 2 or 3 if necessary :-)
I thought about it the other time is what
In addition, the resistors where the remedy ? They are always in the entice on the wires themselves or do I have to put them right on the wire?
Sorry again for the many questions
ducati83
15-02-2014, 19:19
[QUOTE=in the boot you get the chance and to read the engine management(896) argortimo of the strategies of the processor and the engine management collection (2mega)
[/QUOTE]
but how do you read the fileda 2mega in the boot?
legendaryslave
15-02-2014, 21:02
but how do you read the fileda 2mega in the boot?
I'll say in the settings when you select the read method
ducati83
17-02-2014, 15:09
ok I have seen thank you....
now I just need to look for a SS with the same number HW...
listen to the last clarification:but the code key is not compromised in this way?
legendaryslave
17-02-2014, 21:40
ok I have seen thank you....
now I just need to look for a SS with the same number HW...
listen to the last clarification:but the code key is not compromised in this way?
no is in the e2p
giannimini
17-02-2014, 21:49
the file leto in the boot of the 500 essesse is in the database, by a look, if they have the same hw it should go in the files of the punto abarth if I'm not mistaken, even if you change the sensor...? pu? maybe I'm wrong, the experts should clarify
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