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hello..
I ask for an opinion on the map that I made for my 159... and pretty light... and the advances have not been modified to my own will..
I accept any criticism.. the file ori and' in the database of the forum.. and to be precise a edc16c39 576_754
the car has automatic transmission...
I tried... and it pushes pretty well... only flaw.. in the evening with the car behind and lights on.. I see a little smoke..
I enclose a map...
I forgot... the car has the egr pipe closed .. no dpf... and swirl removed...
davidehfnos
19-08-2013, 12:35
Hi the map and light, but can be good,for the smoke and normal because now you're no fap
thanks david.. (hahaha homonyms...)
so I can keep it.. no damage... thanks..!!
I saw that and was downloaded by more people...
we also accept other opinions...!! and maybe some advice to squeeze a few more horse... without exaggeration... because of the automatic transmission..
you posted only the mod?? prune the ori. you have more possibility that you may have to give a hand.
it seems to me that by regulation.. the ori should be posted in the database... and there it is..
to make it easier.. I put the link...
should be this... https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=159&d=1339922984
msport (exil77grande)
19-08-2013, 21:20
let's say that the rail can go,the limiter, but you could make it a little more low pressure turbo ok and limiter, but also the latter's high for no reason,the map of the pedal and of the times it can go, but the policy is not to be,so you won't have a shot progressive,but a simple surplus of power,for the rest abasserei the torque limiter, and I would start a bit later.
so.. let's say that I exaggerated with the limiters... the rest is ok... (thanks)
for the torque limiter.. let's say that it was a test.. usually I get up around 2000 rpm.. or a little less..
let's say, to adapt the map the pedal to the torque limiter.. I wanted to do this test.. because now the original has a lot more pedal set value of the limiter (below 2000 rpm) the difference that I noticed.. is that touching the throttle at low speed.. most loose.. ie.. salt..
now I would like to have a little more of brio.. around 2250/2500 laps... having removed the swirl physically.. I feel a slight decline (in the shot)... how can I solve this problem??
hello..
I have a problemone... as the previously loaded map on the car (there is on the forum) as well this causes me the recovery without lights.. (10 min ago)
what can it be...?? the original no problem.. while this and the previous... I create recovery...
the sensor prex differential.. and disconnected from the dpf.. and is also deleted from the map and then I...
what can be??
msport (exil77grande)
21-08-2013, 09:46
hello..
I have a problemone... as the previously loaded map on the car (there is on the forum) as well this causes me the recovery without lights.. (10 min ago)
what can it be...?? the original no problem.. while this and the previous... I create recovery...
the sensor prex differential.. and disconnected from the dpf.. and is also deleted from the map and then I...
what can be??
sorry because the sensor is disconnected?
and because they exclude as a problem?
according to me the problem could be just him being unplugged,and also with what you did the luca stanca?
because you go into recoveri without any warnings in the diagnosis just because the luca stanca is done with the usual sw delete the whole table of dtc as a consequence, any problem you have does not give you any indication.
I mean the tube of the pressure that comes from the dpf.. and disconnected... the sensor still has the connector attached.. (still doing the recovery to be without... the first one I had it plugged in) and pressure is a- * 1 mbar (like when I grip)
the luca stanca.. and been done with ecusafe 2... I tried one swich but I'm not good in the diagnosis... (I don't know if you remember).. I had the luca stanca with time (but equally recovery)
unfortunately... the recovery it is only with these... or other mod.... whereas if I put the original.. and only without the dpf and egr.. this is not the case.. okay..
davidehfnos
21-08-2013, 13:33
put the table errors the original and see the error that
davidehfnos
21-08-2013, 13:41
test let us know
thanks.. I will try... but according to me.. the real problem is the map... because from the original + no egr + no dpf... not from recovery...
maybe.. and the map pedal... I don't have adequate the other..
msport (exil77grande)
21-08-2013, 15:21
test the file davidehfnos and see the error,then go ahead.
right now.. I'm back to the original.. + no dfp no egr no swirl... let's see if still have problems.....
I forgot... anyway.. to think of it... excluding map and luca stanca.. I think.. the high pressure pump...
guys.... now the car is original.. okay.. (no recovery)
I did however log... if you want to watch them.. and comment.. I would be grateful..
for what I understand (a little) pump high, pump low they are good... as for mass air flow sensor and pressure turbo.. not me square...
I attach the log..
were renamed in a hurry.. so don't do random names.... anyway... cccc.. and is the first... dddd... and zzzz is the last log..
the first and made the machine just turned on.. and the last and machine-made hot and with a mileage of about 4 to 5 km...
thank you in advance...
I forgot.... the log.. have been made with multiecuscan... and you can watch them.. and needs to be imported the file in the chart of the program...
davidehfnos
26-08-2013, 12:55
Hello, I make a screen of the error I can not open your file
they are not errors... are real-time readings of the various parameters.
with ***********/multiecuscan... open the program.. at the top you will find the item chart..
do import... (cvs file), so you can see the parameters, objectives and real...
frantik3
26-08-2013, 23:10
try putting the original turbo or diminuiscilo a bit, or lower the pressure of the boost even if you don't you have touched abbassala some type 5-6 %
the log *********** have been made with the original map, no dpf, no egr, no swirl..
since ? a automatic I abbasseri a bit the couple, or would delay rpm increase...
I had a problem of recovery on a drive the same, and it was the solenoid that operates an overboost.
Changed and fixed everything
with your report of the turbo... I went to look around... and I saw that I have a great trasudo from the tube ic....
can it be that I have soiled.. the actuator.. and it doesn't work as it should??
I can't see him.. I should watch from the below.. in the meantime, I enclose 2 photos..
dusted this discussion..
at a distance of 8,000 miles... and 4 months ... I have not had a recovery... (finger tip.. hihi) the car now and no egr no dpf and no swirl... everything has to be detailed and physically...
ie.. plate on the egr and dpf..... in the garage.. and swirl removed..
according to me... the problem was just the map at this point.... because it has no more made jokes...
I'd be tempted to load another... but I'm afraid.. go still in recovery...
if it was the map... what could it be???
motorsport
25-01-2014, 23:29
Good question e-mail ori and mod!!:)
the ori and in the database .. the mod and on the first page..
however, in the first page.. you will find the link to the database...
this mod posted... gave the recovery 100 km after you have loaded...
and always at the time of release ... i.e. after having given up the throttle... (engine brake.. and' auto') ripredere the throttle and I was in recovery without lights...
eobdexpression
27-01-2014, 01:28
Hello I inizieri to make a map completely from scratch just to try to improve the yield and to avoid the recovery if the problem ? caused by the map. However, have you tried to connect the self-test to see if while if it goes into recovery, that kind of gives you the error?
with the map posted in the recovery I managed to get to the house... and connect the elm with ***********... no error... correction to the injectors in the standard..
nasone147
27-01-2014, 20:26
hi David..we know to look at the photo of your profile.*****s, in diagnosis can not find error why? I assume you have deleted too many of the dtc to exclude the fap!have you used a software to do it or have you done it manually?
eobdexpression
27-01-2014, 21:17
with the map posted in the recovery I managed to get to the house... and connect the elm with ***********... no error... correction to the injectors in the standard..
Using a autocom or delphy as the diagnosis and you say it as a council, instead, with regard to the map rifanne a zero and maybe someone on the forum will help you? I until the arrival of 80 messages, I can't make you anything but other users instead
hi David..we know to look at the photo of your profile.*****s, in diagnosis can not find error why? I assume you have deleted too many of the dtc to exclude the fap!have you used a software to do it or have you done it manually?
Hello nasone147 I just wanted to inform you, however, that david used ecusafe 2 if you read the first post to disable the fap
nasone147
27-01-2014, 22:14
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Hello nasone147 I just wanted to inform you, however, that david used ecusafe 2 if you read the first post to disable the fap[/QUOTE]
and then I s? if you want to find the problem you will need to do mod+egr off+swirl off but with dpf active!cos? you have all the dtc in the ecu and you'll know where to go!
eobdexpression
28-01-2014, 02:19
David do the following put the map ori, and after that make the diagnosis, and see what errors it gives you, and after slowly going to make the changes you will see that find what? the problem I agree fully with what he says nasone147 actually, if there are dtcs cleared you can never ever go back to the error, and then to the cause of the problem you've encountered with the recovey
hello big nose..... you know...
and I say all that and 2...
as with the map ori.. no dpf no egr no swirl... you will not have the problem??
if the problem was the luca stanca would do well on the ori.... as if it was the high pressure pump or other...
dev is there really a problem in the map mod.... i.e. in the changes that I've made...
maybe... and some inconsistency between the map pedal... and the map of the exchange rate (which in my case it is automatic.. and a control unit which manages the scheme on the exchange which is independent from that of the engine)
msport (exil77grande)
11-03-2014, 09:48
hello big nose..... you know...
and I say all that and 2...
as with the map ori.. no dpf no egr no swirl... you will not have the problem??
if the problem was the luca stanca would do well on the ori.... as if it was the high pressure pump or other...
dev is there really a problem in the map mod.... i.e. in the changes that I've made...
maybe... and some inconsistency between the map pedal... and the map of the exchange rate (which in my case it is automatic.. and a control unit which manages the scheme on the exchange which is independent from that of the engine)
what are trying to tell you completely other users that using one of the two usual sw that roam the network to delete the dpf you have also deleted all the area codes dtc accordingly now if you have a problem that certainly is related to the mapping you can not see the error code, and then the nature of the problem,at this point you have 2 options', or put the file ori and try your map and see besides the fap errors you by or do you do a removal of the dpf and that as well as a mapping of who is doing it for work.
msport...
you're right.. and the most easy to...
I'm without a map, and the car is fine... and are 141.000 km..
it's not a requirement to have the map.. it would be nice just to have a little more of a cue with the rims from 19...
I would like to understand where am I wrong... all here..
easily short-lighthouse' of the tests with the dtc active the right to see if the problem is the diesel...
I have a question... the high pressure pump of the 159 150 hp.. mount a filter on the outlet?? it has been suggested that the problem might come from them.. but I don't know its allocation.. (I mean a fuel filter inside the pump)
dusted the speech recovery...
in this last period, I have noticed a lot of lag dell drive... and even improve the provision releasing the pedal during maximum acceleration..
recalling that the recovery would release the engine.. and noting discontinuita on the hand of the turbo.. (sometimes descends type regeneration)
I came to the conclusion that I have the geometry that works badly... and from there, the recovery with the map..
I attach the screen to the pressure turbocharger (they are still the old ones) I kindly ask if anyone has the time and patience to postarmi.. just to make the comparison..
from what you note between objective and real.. I have low demands not "satisfied" and at the time of release peaks above the goal..
colpevolizzo the pieburg..
does anyone know if you can open and clean...
reading in the internet.. I can't remember whether good or stylus... there are those who lha disassembled and inside he found a filter spongy..
does anyone know how to unmount and if and feasible??
to me it gives the impression that it is a problem of the pierburg.
you may have the grooves of the load of the air-filled.
is not convenient to disassemble, ? a piece not rimontabile. clean it well on the outside and soffiala gently in the pipes.
or search for a replacement.
it makes no sense to maps if the pierburg not ? 100% efficient
then from the graphs, there is something going on between objective and real?
honestly I don't have another graph of a car to compare it to..
now and for a long time and I don't have the recovery by turning the original.. but I find as explained above, the lag in the car, and sometimes seems to be mapped... will be peaks...
the car and with dpf emptied keeping the cat and precat...
the strange thing.. and that has never given me any damage to the turbo... that only recovery without a light... (sara), because when I had the map had stood up to the limiters?)
will' soon to replace the part.. I would be grateful if someone post some chart its an overboost...
at the beginning it gave the blame to the pump hp... but to me the failure occurs in the engine brake...
The errors do not them to you by why? you have the blessed table dtc to 0, you have to bring gold to the table dtc and see what error you have, or copy it from a car without a dpf, I think you have faulty turbo pressure, meanwhile, shows ori the table dtc and let us know
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