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The ecu of the bike in question does not have ir? the control engine immobiliser, lives now only in the dashboard and key. This means that ? can move the unit from one bike to another without problems, remains? the control of the dashboard, so in case you want to disassemble the original dashboard to use one aftermarket the bike will not start.
Short-term let? of the tests on my 1098 (as soon as the refit from the review of pre-pistata), but you know, the addresses on which to work are the same between the Hyper and the SBK? These days I try to verify what happens on the SBK series, if it all works, and post my solution.
M999
e-mail the file to me on hypermotard and a 1198 that ran at the track I have not had problems taken from the strumentazzione original to turn on the track then the streetf. and so
maurof650
24-08-2013, 16:51
The ecu of the bike in question does not have ir? the control engine immobiliser, lives now only in the dashboard and key. This means that ? can move the unit from one bike to another without problems, remains? the control of the dashboard, so in case you want to disassemble the original dashboard to use one aftermarket the bike will not start....
M999
I have to assume that if I set a control unit of an 1198 or 848, for example, on a 999 or a monsters2r, I find myself without anti-theft immobilizer?
e-mail the file to me on hypermotard and a 1198 that ran at the track I have not had problems taken from the strumentazzione original to turn on the track then the streetf. and so
Had the control dashboard disabled... on my 1098 (? similar to the 848-1198 of all types) and on a Hyper that I have "worked" recently, without the modification to the file, the control unit controlled always the dashboard and removing the latter, the key-on would not start, not even the pump. Not only that, by disabling this check ? also possible to completely disassemble the antennino immobilizer, as it does not get more? the feed-key to the control unit from the dash or, better, the ecu may not be the controlling ir? as consent to start-up.
To answer Mauro: if you take the ecu 1198 as well as any 5AM, loading the right software in the ecu, you don't have any control problem immobilizer. If you take a unit with a SW to 1198 (for example) and the mountains on a 999 this partir? no problems, but, clearly, will? evil.
M999
you exact mauro, take the unit to the load on the file of your ducati of course, with the same hw and you did
OK, but be careful that the control unit or the software are ****** the coding immobilizer (verginato or inhibited) according to the origin of the control unit.
M999
maurof650
24-08-2013, 23:25
Something I did not go back as recently, just on an ecu of a 1198 I loaded the map that I had read from a 999 and the bike 999 you ? started regularly.
Where do you come back? The control unit, in diagnosis, I was a virgin, have you checked?
M999
Since we talk about dashboards:
I have a customer that is on a panigale has replaced the dash with a demolition.
The bike part and it all works.
The only "defect" and that the writing appears "unknow"
Can you tell me something about it?
Or I try to make immo off with the bit in the ECU?
On the Panigale the management of the immo ? completely different spite to the other, the Panigale mounts then a ecu Melco, not Marelli... here we go OT ;)
M999
maurof650
25-08-2013, 11:00
OK, but be careful that the control unit or the software are ****** the coding immobilizer (verginato or inhibited) according to the origin of the control unit.
M999
Where do you come back? The control unit, in diagnosis, I was a virgin, have you checked?
M999
Re-reading the answer I realized what you meant to say.
At this point, the control unit, 1198, with the map 999, mounted on the 999, I suppose that the bike does not ? pi? protected immobilizer.
Exact, for this I said to you that diagnosis you should give immo virgin, which is controlled by the ecu but not set up with the procedure provided for ;)
M999
maurof650
25-08-2013, 14:09
Always with the ecu mounted on the 999, I wonder what happens if you use the red key, that is, if cos? doing it is stored in the code, and then if the motion of these point ? protected by the immobilizer.
If you do not have a diagnosis to verify the status of immo ecu, do this simple test: disconnect the equipment. If the bike part means that you have the ecu immo off, if it does not means that you have the immo on but verginato. I say, do this test as "proof" without having seen your file...
If you have the immo virgin, with the procedure with the red key, you can set it again.
M999
maurof650
25-08-2013, 15:42
I can already? to answer, why? some of the tests I had done and then the map I downloaded from another ecu I can already? who doesn't ? in the immo off.
If I detach the instrumentation, the bike will not start, then the ecu has immo on but verginato; then the control unit ? it pi? than that of any of the 999, monster, etc that you find yourself from the dealer before the setting of the immo with the red key.
The reason for the request (however you gave me an answer) was to understand if the control unit of the 1198 or 848 or ipermotard (supplied with the bike) if mounted on a motorcycle with control immo using the control unit, can? be encoded with the key.
Exact, why? as in your case you have uploaded a file that has the function of management immobilizer is activated.
M999
maurof650
25-08-2013, 16:06
The Cio? a map in the immo off? and which pro?
The Cio? a map in the immo off? and which pro?
Sar? to start the bike, even without the dashboard?
PS Request OT - can someone tell me the pu? say how to change my message? In the bottom right, I can't find the option "modify message".
The Cio? a map in the immo off? and which pro?
I was unclear: in your case, you have loaded a map that has the management of the immobilizer is active, but the ecu itself not had the code immobilizer set, in this case, why? coming from a 1198.
M999
maurof650
26-08-2013, 00:15
You, however, were clear. We say the same things, with different terminology, but I understand.
To do a bit of clarity:
The data immo are in e2p.
By writing only the flash from one ECU to another ( normal procedure and not in the boot)
If the ecu was a virgin, will stay? a virgin, if coded will stay? encoded.
? can then the immo off by moving a single bit on the flash ( and it seems that so far we have all the ideas clear. :). )
Now if so, doing the immo off, I should exclude the immo and the dashboard (also on the new bike)
Exact a coma, in fact, to go on immo off without the boot ? can, verginare ? instead of a p? pi? a problem: or f? manually boot or serves a specific interface.
For? the control dashboard for the 1098/1198/848, Hyper and Street ? disposable as the other. These days I'm on vacation and I have not behind my PC, with which smeno on power units. On the return I promise to deepen.
M999
I am doing a ECU today of a Street.
I believe that the inhibition Immo, and then the panel is pretty much the same.
The bit is similar.
If ? ok will update
exact at the end also for the control dashboard the bit to move, and only one then when it comes to the framework of the panigale, the problem of writing ? in the framework, at least, I'm hearing someone who does and he says that is disabled by the framework
I would say that things are divided into two strands, provided the theme for the units 5.9 and Marelli 5AM:
1 - disable immobilizer/dashboard of the SBK 749-999, Multistrada, Sportclassic (all), Monster (all)
2 - disabling the dashboard SBK 848/1098/1198, Streetfighter, Hypermotard (all)
The other with the ecu's are different, have the logic of the functioning of all the different, perhaps we can analyze them in other posts specific, what do you say?
M999
ok then, here we are in the theme marelli dashboard I'm doing various tests with Siemens and if I can a friend has changed the ecu for the new multistrada 1200 and I asked for the original to experiment a bit then if someone does please you can? also post some files
I would like to reopen the discussion:
someone came to the solution of the bit to exclude the dashboard (and then the immo) of the paintings 848-1098-1198?
I have a friend who wants to mount a picture on the aftermarket and I can not escludergli control.
I'm becoming a fool :)
thanks in advance
I apologize for the intrusion if the hat just let me know and also I am a newbie and there is that you are wrong. but it is possible to tell the bit to move where im a 59m? in various posts I do not find mentioned, and not being able to download any files I don't have the ability to compare the two files. again, if you have to bacchettarmi you do as well!!!
Some example files, it seems to me the have posted the user
M999.
When you have the privileges, you will be able to download them and compare them :)
guys I open the old discussion....
I'm trying to understand a little how this holy immo;);)
first thing what is the difference and when write disable immo or disabling the dashboard???
if I understand something is that the immo is in the dash, and the sequence of the code is this:
I insert the key,this sends the code to the antenna that sends it to the dashboard
the dashboard sends the code to the ecu,if it matches the whole part
if I make immo off from ecu she no longer expect the code then does not ask for the framework and all part
if I change the dashboard I have to always make immo off, because the framework for after market will not send the code
what do you say......there are??:p
More simply, if you disable the immobilizer on the ecu, bypasses the whole framework tools and then the bike will start with any framework and without it.
In this case, the framework was bypassing and the consent to the motor is given only by the control unit that no longer has to decode the key code.
Ok to disable the ecu is the bit on the flash and we....to disable the framework you would from e2p on the picture right??
Anyway, the end result seems identical
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