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hi guys, I need your help to understand how it is managed the turbo in this ecu(me7.9.10).
so far I have found that the characteristic curves of the compressor and the turbine, but I still don't know how to act to increase the pressure...
in particular, I found a third limitation that could express the relationship between the pressure of the incoming and outgoing from the compressor(mappa3 attached)
do you have any advice?733734
mavaila1972
10-08-2012, 03:25
in general, on this ecu there are
2 limiters turbo 8x1 and 2 limiters turbo 16x1
1 an overboost Map 10x14
2 Maps Management Turbo 10x10
1 Map Turbo Pressure
when I'll be able to reach the 50 posts I download the file and I'll give you a hand
Attention turbines that are gentle enough not to increase too
mavaila1972
10-08-2012, 13:28
map turbo pressure of not more than 0.1 Bar to increase
map turbo pressure of not more than 0.1 Bar to increase
si0.1 should be enough... I spotted a p? maps of the turbo for? I can not understand what manage... What's in the axles ... You have a damos or something?
mavaila1972
10-08-2012, 15:53
no damos I made some, and with a little experience, you understand, read the post above where I said the names of the maps tap the limiters turbo and map pressure turbo the other hands ori if you do not know the operation
no damos I made some, and with a little experience, you understand, read the post above where I said the names of the maps tap the limiters turbo and map pressure turbo the other hands ori if you do not know the operation
on the maps of the turbo what is the parameter in the map ? And the axes? If not, I don't know how to change the map...
mavaila1972
11-08-2012, 12:45
just reached the 50 post discharge, ori and I'll give you some tips to map it
just reached the 50 post discharge, ori and I'll give you some tips to map it
perfect thanks a lot:) I hope I get soon, I also, at the threshold:-)
just reached the 50 post discharge, ori and I'll give you some tips to map it
I can't find the map pressure turbo:-(
the other think I have found...
demolitionMan
12-08-2012, 20:16
the map of the butterfly have found it? ..
the map of the butterfly have found it? ..
not the one in function of the temperature... First I have to find the map of the pressure of the turbo... You are aware?
mavaila1972
13-08-2012, 00:56
I can't find the map pressure turbo:-(
the other think I have found...
a76b6 map 11x16 16bit
demolitionMan
13-08-2012, 09:22
I know that on these to open the butterfly ? a hut! .. I can't help you because? I can not see the files you posted..
[/ATTACH]770
a76b6 map 11x16 16bit
are you sure? look here.... from the damos 1.4 100 hp me7.9.10
mavaila1972
13-08-2012, 11:24
[/ATTACH]770
are you sure? look here.... from the damos 1.4 100 hp me7.9.10
I am sure:)
I am sure:)
mmm.... the 120 hp has that map with higher values of the 155hp...
the esseesse has the same values as the 155hp.... there can not be a turbo pressure... also the damos says that ? the resistance drag-and-drop...
mavaila1972
14-08-2012, 20:12
mmm.... the 120 hp has that map with higher values of the 155hp...
the esseesse has the same values as the 155hp.... there can not be a turbo pressure... also the damos says that ? the resistance drag-and-drop...
I've put a flea in your ear recheck and then I'll let you know!
I've put a flea in your ear recheck and then I'll let you know!
have you double checked? :-)
can you also give me a hand to increase the pressure?
mavaila1972
16-08-2012, 22:19
have you double checked? :-)
can you also give me a hand to increase the pressure?
let me do 2 tests and then tell you ok:p
use the driver of titanium , find all the maps that you servono. from what I know they are 2 maps prex,1 an overboost and 4 lim turbo.
already that raise only those machine the very best.
to me, the titanium is only the two limiters turbo... which drivers have you? I passeresti addresses?
find a file of a 500 turbo and the loads on the maps sn the same.
I tried it with 2 of the 500 abarth, but I find the same maps... only the two lim turbo...
mavaila1972
17-08-2012, 19:00
the map of the butterfly have found it? ..
you can find the maps by opening the butterfly :p
:-) :-) great! I do not keep you on your toes!
mavaila1972
20-08-2012, 12:26
:-) :-) great! I do not keep you on your toes!
tomorrow, you place the address
ok! thanks a lot!
but in the end you managed to increase the pressure of the turbo?
I have found it very useful in the comparison with the maps of the 500 abarth gp gp abarth and esseesse ( equal? HW if possible) to get a lot of doubts, especially about the maps out of the drivers obviously.
I don't know if things will change a lot according to the number of hw and sw, but on this one I made ? enough to touch the "surge" to build up the pressure.
The next week I do a Myth, and let's see...
what camera did you use? the 500 abarth?
because I know that ? the only one in which moving the limiters pressure rises...
PS: and between 0931aa and 09e700 what happens?
they are one of the few maps with good differences between 155hp and esseesse
PS: and between 0931aa and 09e700 what happens?
they are one of the few maps with good differences between 155hp and esseesse
I don't understand, you have indicated an area of the ecu very wide... put the addresses of the maps and just...
well I mean all the maps "big" in that area...
ppena I have time in case the place of the screen...
better... so you are a little too vague:-)
mavaila1972
22-08-2012, 12:37
:-) :-) great! I do not keep you on your toes!
check the attachment you have to find a certain number of maps so these are the maps of its speed, throttle opening
those are the maps that regulate the sensitivity? of the pedal...
with regard to the pressure, you understand how to handle it?
mavaila1972
22-08-2012, 17:46
those are the maps that regulate the sensitivity? of the pedal...
with regard to the pressure, you understand how to handle it?
not yet I'll try to move over and let's see if the pressure increases
really? I think that with the maps the ecu to handle ir? the torque demand on the basis of the scheme and the position of the pedal. also useful ones, surely...
do you have news?
someone ? managed to increase the pressure?
I have noticed that in raising the limiter turbo in normal pressure rises, but the maximum is reached than is available in the dinanic from the original...
also raising further the two limiters the pressure remains the same...
I would like to try to increase the map of the load on the engine to see if the pressure is increased goal, what do you say?
you know exactly how it works that map?
You've tried to act on the maps in the area that I indicated, and that you have shown in the screenshots "l?"? There were positive comments about their correlation with the turbo pressure!
I made a myth, and also the? the pressure effort to climb, especially at high rpm...
I hit the 4 limiters turbo... the two sports and the normal (indicated by titanium) and the two panettoncini attached to the end of the map...
but nothing, goes into the pressure a bit before but not salt... if you want I attach the map... to you ? the climb?
according to me it is Necessary to increase the map load... Almost want to try... Before touching the management turbo and the pid
Well I usually do that...
A little bit ? rose especially the peak, but above almost anything!
Attach well cos? do one eye and tomorrow I do the tests myself...
this b? the test that I did... I wanted to try to raise more of the load, and especially lower, about 60%...
I noticed that in the log, the maximum load remains the same that ori 190... for this I wanted to start over at the bottom, with the increnenti...
Well I usually do that...
A little bit ? rose especially the peak, but above almost anything!
Attach well cos? do one eye and tomorrow I do the tests myself...
you managed to discover something?
The one myth that I did okay, 1.2 peak, then on to cala but the client ? satisfied, then I have made other tests.
On the attached map to? I have not seen specific curves changed. Of the you were talking about those other curves, in the range of addresses that I too have mentioned. According to me, try.... they are among the few curves with substantial differences with respect to the esseesse!
you made a 120 hp... you probably don't need to touch more on that in order to have good performance...
I don't trust you to tap maps that do not know the operation. then according to me, those maps do not need to touch them.... they are the type maps to an overboost of the turbo (if you can say:-))
am more and more convinced that in order to increase the pressure of a goal it is necessary to increase the map of the load on the engine... you can do is try...
I have done two 155hp
definitely increase the payload map objective benefits! test...
on the diesel tap the so-called maps an overboost, i.e. management of variable geometry can? give problems and you do not know where you are going to end up. But on the gasoline control ? on the wastegate and on an overboost true, then I see less of a problem as what!
but you said that is 1.2 peak... the 155hp series is 1.3...
apart from this, I find it better to manage the variable geometry of the diesel... I have a lot more experience compared to petrol:-)
anyway let? some test as soon as I have a bit of time...
obviously my eye is not ? was cos? bravo to interpolate the graph of the log of the scale of the axes :-) and since I have done the log alone, I did not have time to see the peak :-)
ok, on the one I had the pressure not ? the climb then. On the GP Abarth instead it went even at 1.4
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 19:06
I on the 120t-jet ride with a 1.6 peak and 1.4 constant...
With the heat exchanger increased also?
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 20:22
No, for now the original.
St? by mounting the Turbine esseesse, injectors esseesse, intercooler, sensors APS + MAP from 3000mb, and the exhaust I have it already?...
;-)
I had noticed that they tend to warm up a lot the intake air....
I on the 120t-jet ride with a 1.6 peak and 1.4 constant...
wow...:-) give me a hand to you to increase the pressure on my 155.... I pray to you:-) :-)
spare me 1000 tests...
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 20:35
postami the ori and I'll do a test
postami the ori and I'll do a test
here it is.... c'? the ori and a proof that I had done (he:-) that is not needed)
http://www.mediafire*****/?j97pc5zmc8p96e4
thanks a lot!!!!!!
if you do not see the link to add a t to http ...............htp://www.mediafire*****/?j97pc5zmc8p96e4
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 21:08
here it is.... c'? the ori and a proof that I had done (he:-) that is not needed)
http://www.mediafire*****/?j97pc5zmc8p96e4
thanks a lot!!!!!!
if you do not see the link to add a t to http ...............htp://www.mediafire*****/?j97pc5zmc8p96e4
let me know..
cabbage how many curves that I do not know:-)
but at what pressure the turbo? you have removed the limitations...
for? so do not turn on the light if you break the liners of the management of the westgate true (already broken 2 times from new, now not should more happen)?...in the event of pressure I mean..
I have a little afraid to load it (even if I trust you)... have you tested?
thank you so much...you're the best!
because you have emaciated from the map of the lambda of them, and then changed the map of the correction for the ignettori (gaining weight)?
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 21:45
You're quiet, nothing happens...
With this you should be on 1.5, 1.6 peak. Operation normal and ultra tested on these engines, especially if you have the turbine golds.
If it will continue? not salirti the pressure, since you told me that pi? once you have broken the tubes of the WG, I would tell you to review your work...
PS: Check that the pressure now will be? 1000 rpm, about pi? late compared to the original map.
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 21:48
PS: C'? the possibility? to handle the turbo pressure only with the throttle intake... At that point it would not help even more? the wastegate valve!
what are these mod 098403? the ones before, I know because I have the damos of 1.4 sucked...
and these and that immediately after 0A8038? the copy from the esseesse I:-)
ps. the pressure you can? regular, but destroy the turbine if not vented the exhaust gas.... only for setting up you can...
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 22:24
Test the map and then I'll explain everything..
PS: do not destroy anything, why? by closing the butterfly decrease the pressure and consequently the flow rate of the exhaust gases at the exit.. A similar system ? used in WRC even.
However, of course not ? recommended to do with the original turbo.
takes me those three things... the rest I know about:-)
tomorrow evening, maybe I can try it...
I change 2 things on the carburetor for?...:-) cos? I'm a little scared...I'm sorry... I have to be convinced to try a mod:-)
gorimotors
04-09-2012, 22:40
as you wish
cjack! upload it cos? com'?.... a maximum of only do a couple of tests and then lower a little bit the pressure...
In any case, I thank Fabri for good ideas:
Maps management the butterfly: :-Or there would have never arrived :-) the first one was gold, the other two the incrementavo as the esseesse, and the last I took her to the max, as in your. then there are three that are repeated, vabb?...
I have the confirmation that the maps after 9e0c0 are turbo... but I didn't expect you decrementassero, I was always comparing with those of the esseesse...
Then something else again, and I would not shoot a *******but pu? be management of the detonation?
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 09:47
On this management logic turbo works in reverse, and then to increase the pressure must decrease the values in the map...
However, the map 8bit what do you see ? just the management of the knock sensor!
cjack! upload it cos? com'?.... a maximum of only do a couple of tests and then lower a little bit the pressure...
In any case, I thank Fabri for good ideas:
Maps management the butterfly: :-Or there would have never arrived :-) the first one was gold, the other two the incrementavo as the esseesse, and the last I took her to the max, as in your. then there are three that are repeated, vabb?...
I have the confirmation that the maps after 9e0c0 are turbo... but I didn't expect you decrementassero, I was always comparing with those of the esseesse...
Then something else again, and I would not shoot a *******but pu? be management of the detonation?
maps management the butterfly: you say those at the beginning of the map? those limit the torque (maybe they do it by closing the throttle)... between the two groups of maps "butterfly" there is a change of a few bits... ? an error or ? wanted to?
the latest maps at the end what's the use?(the penultina ? to protect the turbine in theory)
caricherei directly to Fabri but I am not convinced of the change to the map of the correction of the fuel...
he has experience, and I'm not, but I have to convince myself of why you change...
for the rest all end? never to thank Faber for his help....
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 11:02
The last curves are protection turbo (limitation of maximum rpm)
The penultimate (straight line), ? a limitation butterfly/pressure as a function of the engine rpm.
For mixture cos? you will have the best performance, limit the AFR to 12.5 or so, then you are in the standard of reliability? and you should stay on the 840-850? temp exhaust gas (to be verified).
I ride with a similar setup for over a year, and for pi? with the LPG-system..
Ok... And those 2 bits between the 2 initial groups? You ? slipped the mouse? Cos'?? Thank you for the info!
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 11:19
You speak of the checksum correction?
msport (exil77grande)
05-09-2012, 11:20
excellent post,these are the things that we would like to always read on this forum.
You speak of the checksum correction?
no no... At the beginning after the first map edited... There are 2 values changed... ? an error perhaps
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 11:36
I don't have the map in hand now, and I can not riscaricarla from the forum because? I do not have the necessary messages...
revealed the secret... ? the checksum... if I try to put it ori will not let me:-)
I thought it was only at the end of the fix...instead...:-)
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 12:34
That ? the edit zone checksum of the maps to 8 bits, while the correction of the maps to 16bit ? at the end of the map
very interesting, I didn't know they were divided... thanks
mavaila1972
05-09-2012, 13:13
That ? the edit zone checksum of the maps to 8 bits, while the correction of the maps to 16bit ? at the end of the map
I agree excellent analysis
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 17:24
cjack, if not ? a problem ? possible to have the damos of the aspirated?
are you sure it is! here it is
? an ols of 100cv
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 17:44
Thanks 1000 ;)
cawadany
05-09-2012, 18:50
Very very interesting! This s? that ? the spirit of the forum!
I uploaded my map... I touched on all the maps like the one Fabri except the three management turbo....
the pressure ? increased! 1.5 peak that falls slowly up to the limiter...
for? by log I saw that the pressure cannot maintain the pressure goal.... I monitored the actuator and try to make it reach richiudendosi(if you can say)...
at 5000 rpm I have 1 bar instead of 0.9 from the original, but required ? 1,1....
no that is the westgate too weak?
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 19:54
The wastegate certainly has a say, but c'? from work on management now
cawadany
05-09-2012, 19:57
Ah?, not a bad pressure!
and but if the actuator is trying to reach, and I don't think that changing the manager can do better, no?
then I don't know if lower some of the pressure for the reliability
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 20:04
and but if the actuator is trying to reach, and I don't think that changing the manager can do better, no?
then I don't know if lower some of the pressure for the standard?
:-D but reliability?? I don't trust:-) explodes all over whoever
cawadany
05-09-2012, 20:19
In fact... they are a little high as the pressure? Sure that the turbine does not go out of the range of optimal performance?
gorimotors
05-09-2012, 20:24
As peak 1.5-1.6 is fine, the important ? that is not a constant.
For the rest, as pressures for the original turbo ? at the limit, but I 40,000 km done with my foot very heavy, nothing ever happened... In addition I repeat, I have the LPG system, the ch? f? to heat the whole of pi?...
PS: With the TD04 on this engine to 1.1 bar you are about 220 hp, while more than begin to yield the pistons.
cawadany
05-09-2012, 20:29
Was wondering since I am on the Golf V GTI I have a peak of 1.35 and those pressures seemed to me to be too much for the 1400.
my remains constant at 1.5 to about 600 rpm... no ? just a peak.... it does not make a peak real...
in case down a bit and settle carburation (what ? still too fat), and advances
Was wondering since I am on the Golf V GTI I have a peak of 1.35 and those pressures seemed to me to be too much for the 1400.
let's say that the 1.4 turbo of the fiat ? ultra pushed...
As it says in Gori having a peak of 1.5 does not compromise the reliability?...
the important thing is not to insist with the pressure...
instead, in 500 the engine compartment ? too small... I remember that they had problems why? from the heat of the turbo melted the front of the plastic...
cawadany
05-09-2012, 20:58
From the original in that the pressures to spin?
I noticed a small seghettamento climb to 1500 rpm... I think it is due to the initial maps
From the original in that the pressures to spin?
the 155hp should be on peak of 1.3 bar, and constant 1,1 / 1,0
cawadany
05-09-2012, 21:12
As my mapped virtually :)
cawadany
05-09-2012, 21:53
I have a golf v gti
msport (exil77grande)
05-09-2012, 22:00
[QUOTE=cjack;5170]you of course! here it is [/url]
? an ols of 100cv
kindly everything that is posted must be attached so that those who do not have 50 posts useful not pu0' download anything so I'm asking you to change your two messages with the map and the damos that in the event you can post in the appropriate section,nothing against gori which is very helpful but I do not like that part here,c..... and go away,I thank you in advance.
you are right.... done... now remove your quote of my message if you do not see the link..:-)
keep in mind that, unfortunately, to stay in reliable? must be a little fat... if the EGT rises and you coli some piston...
I would say that Gori gave you a good indication... therefore, its logic, and proceed to refine it...
gorimotors
06-09-2012, 00:49
Also depends on the type of turbine mounted.
I for example on my Subaru Impreza, I have a Garrett GTX3076R which works at 2.5 bar peak, and pu? do safely are also 3!
gorimotors
06-09-2012, 00:51
I noticed a small seghettamento climb to 1500 rpm... I think it is due to the initial maps
Consider that you need to do a 100naio KM to s? you autoadattino all the parameters.
On the contrary, have a good thing:
Take the tester and do the reset of the parameters autoadattativi, counter beat counter and an overboost, then we do 100km and you'll see that the car will go? much better
I solved it... the first curves a "staircase" you have to leave ori.... manage the seghettamento... the only value that I have left to the fullest ? was the last panettoncino, this on any of the two series....
I stalk the battery, and then after a few km (about 10-15 goes like a rocket)
I would not reach the pressure goal after 3500 rpm, increases only 0.1... but I just do so...it's already very strong
the 3 maps management turbine I don't trust them because I do not know the parameters that manage...
I hope not to have problems...
smagrendo from the map lambda(component protection) I have not noticed the results in the log:
I have it set to 0.80-0-79 (with respect to the lambda value 1 stekio) and the log gives me a voltage of 0.89 volts as the ori...I don't understand why...
cawadany
06-09-2012, 10:32
Also depends on the type of turbine mounted.
I for example on my Subaru Impreza, I have a Garrett GTX3076R which works at 2.5 bar peak, and pu? do safely are also 3!
Surely, what ? obvious. But I was "amazed" by the pressures that will be running from the original that 1400....
gorimotors
06-09-2012, 11:59
Mountain turbines very dimensioned and make it to work at pressures high enough, so as to have the same power but much earlier... in Fact, a T-jet 120 hp enters the torque safely to 1800 rpm approx.
The only problem as you know ? a small turbine fired at high pressures, heats only the air...
I ? coming in mind one thing... pu? be that the actuator of the turbo can't keep up the pressure because the hose that connects to the wastegate ? too long, so the air compresses inside of it, not resisting...
ps: I was replaced because it broke... I do not know if ? the ori...
2.5-3bar.... Safe?
the graphs of performance of the turbochargers in the y-axis have the relationship of pressures on the basis of the absolute, so 2 means 1 bar of boost...
I ? coming in mind one thing... pu? be that the actuator of the turbo can't keep up the pressure because the hose that connects to the wastegate ? too long, so the air compresses inside of it, not resisting...
ps: I was replaced because it broke... I do not know if ? the ori...
the pressure ? physiological and decreases at high speeds, if you mount a turbo small: you reach the maximum limit of the scope of its boccaggio, i.e. the condition of sonicit? at this point. not being able to pi? then increase the flow rate, lowers gradually the pressure ;-)
yes yes...I know this... (engineering study), but I basavo on the fact that others are turning to a higher pressure....
anyway I say: do not center the tube... by changing the 3 maps of management, I think that the actuator force even more of the wastegate to achieve the pressure...
pero according to me ? most just raise those maps (I'm talking about the only three maps that fabri has lowered)...
the second,the one in the middle of the two, just shows the map feature of the compressor (axis: flow rate, pressure ratio, the values in the map:yield).
increasing the yield probably the ecu force more of the wastgate to keep the pressure...use the performance as a limiter to know how much you can increase the pressure in the pumping or clamping
one of the other two should be the map of the performance of the turbine.... the third I have no idea:-) :-)
who has the damos help us!
Subaru IHI
Reports of 2 bar pressure, i.e. 1 bar of boost, yes ? gi? under the 74% efficiency ;-) let alone 1.5
Clearly the initial hit you from when you accelerate is pi? impression with a lot of boost, but after 15-30 min of use would be curious to see how many hp you have remaining. on this engine 1.2 bar peak are certainly suitable, and have now the way for him to keep on rpm ? evil...
74 performance for a compressor ? very... ? practically the maximum obtainable from a compressor of this kind...cmq rpm increases, grows the flow then you may bring down the performance, or go out of rpm
guys regarding the management of advances have you not noticed that if you give only 1 degree in the pi? at full load the machine walls?
of stechio 12,5 about...
and the f? only 5?march... the other gears up to fourth exceeding 6600 rpm...
add advance over the 4500-5000 not ? recommended... suffers the break... you can see that the more the engine ? under stress, the more it is affected by...
exact.... ? just what I was looking for to understand on these engines a p? the details and find the limit for the calibration...
in this case ? better or leave them gold or possibly de-anticipate on the basis of what you want to achieve..
gorimotors
07-09-2012, 14:50
In fact, on the versions of the pi? potent, THEY THEY c'? pi? advance at low rpm, but the high goes to drop of almost 4-5?!
they are truly the engines pulled by the neck...
turn fat and de-anticipate to have performance and to keep the temperatures in the combustion chamber to the best they can for reliability?...
not to speak of the twin-air...
vabbh? you f? what is pu? to put them at the dot... ehhehehe
we should try to take off a degree or 2 and see if it improves...going back to the map turbo, does anyone have the damos a 1.6 thp peugeot? Should have a med17... The management turbo they told me to be the identical
74 performance for a compressor ? very... ? practically the maximum obtainable from a compressor of this kind...cmq rpm increases, grows the flow then you may bring down the performance, or go out of rpm
??
think in 3D, c'? the relationship of pressure ;)
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think in 3D, c'? the relationship of pressure ;)
... I don't understand where? the problem...
add an interesting document of a me7.3.1 with explanation of the maps and how they work... use it with the damos of the myth 100cv that I posted before to know the names of the maps...
you a on the basis of the changes of Fabri... even if you are reading the file I just posted came to me in doubt about the management of the lambda...
anyway, now I have 1.5 bar peak (which abbassero) and 1 bar to 5000 rpm
however, the pressure required at 5000 rpm ? 1.1 and by monitoring the actuator of the turbo you can see that it tries to reach her without success....
now I have to try a map with peak pressure and request low to see if the actuator fails to follow the required pressure...
I also want to try to remove 1 degree of advance to the schemes of the highest to see if it improves... (ps. already so the car is very strong )
the fix ? feasible only by means of the two limiters that from the driver, at this point?
yes yes... I am normal, I raised the pressure of 0.1.... thanks to the second limiter
studying the last file I posted, I noticed that the first map lambda ? always active, but only if the temperature of the exhaust gas estimated by the model calculation exceeds a certain threshold... in fact smagrendola I have not noticed big changes in the log... what do you think?
the threshold ? at 900 degrees...
this ? what I read on the map:
LAMBTS: Overview
=================
By means of the mapping KFLBTS, lambda nominal shift towards the rich can be performed as a function of the speed nmot and the
cylinder fill rl.
The enrichment is active only, if the modelized exhaust temperature exceeds the applicable threshold TABGBTS.
An increase in the exhaust emission temperature can occur for a deterioration in the ignition-timing efficiency. This increase can
be counteracted by an enrichment of the mixture.
In addition to this, the ignition timing efficiency etazwg is calculated for the basic timing zwgru and the ignition-timing
efficiency etazwim for the averaged actual ignition timing.
The difference between etazwg and etazwim gives the deterioration in the efficiency detazwbs. Depending on detazwbs, additive
enrichment can now be performed by means of the characteristic DLBTS. The enrichment can be reduced or shut off in desired regions
by the mapping KFFDLBTS (nmot, rl). The efficiency of the enrichment can be filtered by the PT1-Block.
ideal would be to 850 degrees, I'm slamming the head with this ecu and the result is always the same , the peak to what I want and stable nn if they even speak. 1.0 up to the limiter.I think there is a map that maintains the stable pressure, tap find. nn I have seen who did walk this machine above 5000 rpm.
the last time I made a ss150cv . I 185cv up to 4000 rpm and then up to the limiter it I lose 18-20cv.
always touches study....
The solution to the pressure ? was kindly unveiled a few pages ago...
I can find the solution........ sorry.
I can find the solution........ sorry.
you need to download the attachment gorimotors page 6... them there are all the curves from the tap...
nn I still get the messages to download. but have you tried the map??
nn I still get the messages to download. but have you tried the map??
I have done one with similar changes... Some curve I left ori...
davidehfnos
14-10-2012, 10:35
Good day guys since we are on the subject, I check out the map I made if all goes well??
msport (exil77grande)
14-10-2012, 12:14
Good day guys since we are on the subject, I check out the map I made if all goes well??
in this case, you're off topic open a specific post.
I think you touched on too many things, look at the file example gorimotors, li c'? virtually everything you need to touch.
be careful, because some maps are to be change in 8-bit and not 16-bit(for example, lambda, etc.)
Hi guys, great topic.
I'm studying a bit the limiter two ****mem in this and the ecu.
I assume that this is the Myth 409_932.
Someone can help me with the address 0xA5416 and with the address 0x9DBA6?
0x9DBA6 and valid until is reached 0xA5416?
From then on, as is gestiata the limitation rounds?
Through 0xA75E0?
ducati83
05-01-2014, 18:33
guys but these changes also apply to the 120 hp?
why? I gave a look to the file of the giulietta 120 hp that I would like to try to do, and I have seen that many of the maps are the same and some different values...obviously failing to understand that the values there are in those maps I can't seem to move forward.
fabiovts88
11-11-2014, 04:32
guys the maps from 0A8030 to 0A8172 are the maps to unlock a butterfly? to reach prex desired? I look forward to the answers on this site I have to make one and I wanted to understand
but the damos for 1.4 tjet is not in the network?
damos found...I need to be able to fill the void that has created the downpipe to the low-mid rpm..any solutions?
to try and map the 2 humps about the n75 to see if it is able to load first?
returning to the theme of the maps that has touched gori pressure turbo are translated from the damos : KF for the conversion of the differential pressure in the Wastegatedose and mass flow in the
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compressor efficiency
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KF to convert the Delta hub of Delta pressure to the wastegate actuator pneumatic
I can't understand which manages really the pressure, even if as we all know (s4 wiki docet), the bosch me 7.9.10 doesn't have real maps pressure
Hello all, I have a Mito 155HP without changes to hardware/software, I would like to try a good map, anyone has one?
I have a 1.4 Tjet lpg-120 hp (Myth) and are interested in the discussion.
Can someone summarize what you've experienced/understood and useful? Including address and logical....thanks!
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