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dart.1989
22-07-2013, 14:23
hi guys I am looking for the diagram of the pinout of the edc16c39 why? I would like to try to understand the xk? in the giulietta and mito are equipped with the selector d.no.a. and the 159 no while having the same electronics and also the 147 ducati always the same electronics and equipped with a sport button on the tunnel.
around, I saw that this ecu is equipped with double the memory cos? you can put on at least 2 different maps cos? to select them on the basis of the conditions, so I am looking for information about to put in my 159 a selector x to change the map
There is no double map inside...
simply enable zone maps that otherwise are not active.
sportknight
22-07-2013, 14:56
need to see if the sport button or the dna act through the body computer, and then you do not do anything,or go directly to the ecu...
progress
22-07-2013, 21:08
as it says in sports you do, you'll do nothing of the key dna the various commands arrive in the body and the same body through the can communicates with the ccm
legendaryslave
22-07-2013, 21:41
that I know of and I don't want to say a corbelleria the sport button acting on the maps pedal corregetemi if I'm wrong
blackwolf76
22-07-2013, 23:40
I do not know exactly what is how is it working for? lately on a 147 120cv me ? happened to find the dual map in the ecu and the pin of predisposition to the sport button on the central tunnel. I was with the customer who has to obtain the key and then see if it goes or not...
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 16:19
so guys after some extensive research on the dna works through the body computer but the sport button placed on the 147 and connected to the controller, in fact, turning on various websites and those who tried to read the ecu and found in front of a file on the pi? long usually do not double, but almost this indicates that there is a second map, via the website, bosch is not able to find any info on the ecu,
And then, if no it would not make sense to build a unit with double the memory without having to use are no costs in the pi? for the company
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 16:22
I do not know exactly what is how is it working for? lately on a 147 120cv me ? happened to find the dual map in the ecu and the pin of predisposition to the sport button on the central tunnel. I was with the customer who has to obtain the key and then see if it goes or not...
blackwolf76 if I ask for too much I may provide the copy of that file cos? to compare it to and start to see the see the differences
so guys after some extensive research on the dna works through the body computer but the sport button placed on the 147 and connected to the controller, in fact, turning on various websites and those who tried to read the ecu and found in front of a file on the pi? long usually do not double, but almost this indicates that there is a second map, via the website, bosch is not able to find any info on the ecu,
And then, if no it would not make sense to build a unit with double the memory without having to use are no costs in the pi? for the company
no double the memory.. and much less on the second map...
? always 2 mega file edc16c39
what changes ? enabling or less, in the models pi? advanced logic for the management of the euro5 etc..
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 16:57
a file edc15 how much ? great? a file edc16c8 how much ? great?
to me appears to be around a mega
no double the memory.. and much less on the second map...
? always 2 mega file edc16c39
what changes ? enabling or less, in the models pi? advanced logic for the management of the euro5 etc..
what have they got the edc15 and the c8?
are the ecu the pi? old-fashioned and do not have the management of the key dna
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 17:21
what have they got the edc15 and the c8?
are the ecu the pi? old-fashioned and do not have the management of the key dna
precisely don't have it but also have the met? the memory of the edc16c39, then why? build a controller with double the memory?
Certainly not have developed to just have the button... but bens? for policy management, pollution...
I know that you are confusing the various ecu associated with models...
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 17:34
what would be the devices antiinquinamento? and to manage them you will need to create a new controller? then the edc 17 that reason c'? to make a controller with a processor tri-core just to make the engine more? clean.
I do not think
Certainly not have developed to just have the button... but bens? for policy management, pollution...
I know that you are confusing the various ecu associated with models...
ECU's are evolving together with the engine in all its variations....
What you're listing thou nothing to do with it, both from the logical and related to the topic.
The c39 has a file of 2 mega nor more nor less.
Those with the DNA definitely have a hw, but different sw ? content always
In a memory of 2 mega with a structure and logic the same as the other c39 of the same group.
dart.1989
24-07-2013, 19:48
anyway, I seek the diagram of the pinout of the ecu if you can't understand us? I have listed and I will always continue to say that has no logic, then you don't know internally how they are built, a council will not limit only to the map as an automaton, but more there? that you are between the hands
ECU's are evolving together with the engine in all its variations....
What you're listing thou nothing to do with it, both from the logical and related to the topic.
The c39 has a file of 2 mega nor more nor less.
Those with the DNA definitely have a hw, but different sw ? content always
In a memory of 2 mega with a structure and logic the same as the other c39 of the same group.
Here is the bravo open your mind....
Between a p? of years we'll talk again....
Closed-off topic
sportknight
25-07-2013, 13:40
The edc16 are 2 mb, also the 159 automatic has the sport button but the controller ? equal, cqmbia only map the pedal enabled
dart.1989
25-07-2013, 18:17
The edc16 are 2 mb, also the 159 automatic has the sport button but the controller ? equal, cqmbia only map the pedal enabled
thanks x the info sportknight I didn't know that the automatic version had the sport button, what I'm looking for the wiring in the control unit, somewhere must be connected'm blessed to key
dart.1989
25-07-2013, 18:54
progress
26-07-2013, 13:25
perhaps you are not clear what was written,the original button (dna or sport button) and connected to the body computer which transmits data (via can)to the engine control unit, then in the pinout of the engine control unit, you will never find the link of that button on the key.
the other story is if you can put it you a button to change the map, but here a voice to those who have already done it if you ever ec state
Matty23p
08-02-2014, 14:37
Guys sorry if riaproto the topic...but since I have the same ecu I would like to know if you are able to do it or not?....thanks ;) :)
chiptuning.cro
08-02-2014, 15:10
pinout EDC16C39...
as a gi? said by respected colleagues, the sport button is not allowed? be connected to a pin of the control unit, why? there is not a dedicated pin.
the command sports or dna arrives on the body computer and that communicates via can bus to the ecu.
the change could only do this by modifying the hardware of the control unit and by placing another flash of a switch.
who knows how to do it...... next.
ducati83
08-02-2014, 20:18
ok, but if you intervene on the body?
always if possible...
msport (exil77grande)
15-02-2014, 20:17
as a gi? said by respected colleagues, the sport button is not allowed? be connected to a pin of the control unit, why? there is not a dedicated pin.
the command sports or dna arrives on the body computer and that communicates via can bus to the ecu.
the change could only do this by modifying the hardware of the control unit and by placing another flash of a switch.
who knows how to do it...... next.
on the old management was without problems from edc16 in then everything changed.
ducati83
17-02-2014, 15:13
the thing that I don't understand ? how does this signal the body on the ecu:the files of these edc16 ? always 2mega....and if you open it.....the situation that you find yourself in front of ? the same of the car is not equipped with sport button, or DNA....then?
on some bikes that have the maps rain city and tank I noticed that the limitation is in the ride-by-wire....then the rain makes available the 60% of the knob, gas and cos? via....
it would not be possible to do a similar thing with the car?
also on the drive you are using strategies similar to those described for the bike.
for example, in the myth there are 10 maps, pedal or ride-by-wire. are some selectable by the driver with the DNA from other software, for example for starting or for the automatic transmission.
you have to remember that the key DNA intervenes not only on the engine but also in the contemporary management of the instrument panel, on the ASR on the power steering and the transmission. that's why? the command goes on the body and not on the engine.
and each power you fans of his property as sa as a function of the signal that comes in.
the engine then it is just a few things to make the difference and are typically part of those maps that you speak for the processing.
we should not expect anything big and bulky, sometimes you just have to write the maps that are unused on other versions
ducati83
17-02-2014, 22:08
ok this wanting to make a difference even in the guide...***** for example, in the motion the above speech is handled differently from electronic to part....for? with the ecu selection only the type of electronics, and consequently the horses available....then it would be possible to have a button where I have the standard map or the pumped....keeping in mind that on most cars the asr traction control and the yaw stability? are disabled....let's say a pi system? the crude....
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