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darksoulbreaker
05-07-2013, 20:59
Ragazzuoli help me to understand a p?:
I have already? the galletto v2 agg.April 2011 and I'm well x?...I would like to also purchase the kess v2 in a couple of weeks...what I recommend and what are the pros and cons of this tool?
Thanks.

rego88
05-07-2013, 22:11
talk to ori or the clone???

darksoulbreaker
05-07-2013, 22:22
the kess v2 clone

darksoulbreaker
06-07-2013, 17:04
the ktag I don't know sells together with the kess?

FidodidoTuning
06-07-2013, 17:10
They are two separate things

The kess is obd-boot-tricore
Ktag is boot-tricore-bdm
Excellent both

Considering that the recovery function; ke is the miracles of the kess

darksoulbreaker
06-07-2013, 19:02
in practice this function recovery what is it?

FidodidoTuning
06-07-2013, 19:07
If you happen to lock a unit in writing or a colleague has a blocked .
You can force the write anke if the car has lost the code.

darksoulbreaker
06-07-2013, 19:10
If you happen to lock a unit in writing or a colleague has a blocked .
You can force the write anke if the car has lost the code.

mmmmmmmmmh....understood understood...and this is the rooster v2 not the f?...right?

anyway...I take it this kess v2

FidodidoTuning
06-07-2013, 19:38
no,the cock no

darksoulbreaker
06-07-2013, 19:49
and on this kess v2 ? can update the database or something?

ion
06-07-2013, 19:57
and on this kess v2 ? can update the database or something?

I would say NO (speaking of CLONES, I mean to say that the software provided you must not/can? update)

darksoulbreaker
06-07-2013, 19:58
ok...understood. :)

and the clone...and cn clone ? can only read the drive, or the entire package for car/motorcycle/truck/tractor?

dviden
08-07-2013, 20:13
and the clone...and cn clone ? can only read the drive, or the entire package for car/motorcycle/truck/tractor?
My a active Cars bikes and Vans, no trucks, tractors and boats I have both kess that cock, and according to m? there are comparisons to be 100 times the Kess then ? matter of taste!!!! but I get more? yet maybe the rooster goes well the same but I am too well with the kess

sno74
08-07-2013, 23:28
My a active Cars bikes and Vans, no trucks, tractors and boats I have both kess that cock, and according to m? there are comparisons to be 100 times the Kess then ? matter of taste!!!! but I get more? yet maybe the rooster goes well the same but I am too well with the kess
quoto in full, your response can? be that do the same things but if you use kess v2 capischi now where is the difference, and really a lot of confidence......

darksoulbreaker
09-07-2013, 00:20
and not c'? how to operate the software with trucks boats motorcycles cars and vans??

dviden
09-07-2013, 08:34
and not c'? how to operate the software with trucks boats motorcycles cars and vans??
in my not have its own assets so no , I don't know if there's a version with everything enabled

Ross
11-07-2013, 05:08
Has one big flaw, cos? as the ktag (almond): after 50 scriptures, it seems to me, hangs and you have to replace the processor.

ion
11-07-2013, 08:20
Has one big flaw, cos? as the ktag (almond): after 50 scriptures, it seems to me, hangs and you have to replace the processor.

And you say little ? It was true it would be a boiata crazy !
It seems to me is not so? or that at least you know how to fix without replacing anything ****llo hardware.
I on MY machine avr? made 100 writes for various tests with an old cmd and mpps, in this case, the expense would have been a bit high...
Someone can? confirm ???

msport (exil77grande)
11-07-2013, 11:22
And you say little ? It was true it would be a boiata crazy !
It seems to me is not so? or that at least you know how to fix without replacing anything ****llo hardware.
I on MY machine avr? made 100 writes for various tests with an old cmd and mpps, in this case, the expense would have been a bit high...
Someone can? confirm ???

at the moment, only alarmism because the ktag someone said that crashed after 50 scriptures, then you could replace the processor and everything was returning to normal even if I have to now I haven't seen any blocked with regard to the kess instead I do not own feedback, at the moment, I leave the entry corridor to the right people.

Ross
11-07-2013, 12:52
As for me, I have personally seen 2 (ktag) blocked. In addition to there? further damage ? was the not being able to replace the processor, why? the motherboard was full of resin which, during the removal, and has damaged some components. These are the facts, which you ? you are certainly free to believe or not.

msport (exil77grande)
11-07-2013, 17:50
I only say that to us and to our customers has not yet happened, and also, we never self resin on the processor, so I infer that they are of different derivation, and that might not even be a model that hangs on our.

Ross
11-07-2013, 19:35
My speech was not reported to the products sold by you, absolutely. I simply told us? I have seen on similar devices.

ion
12-07-2013, 11:36
As for me, I have personally seen 2 (ktag) blocked. In addition to there? further damage ? was the not being able to replace the processor, why? the motherboard was full of resin which, during the removal, and has damaged some components. These are the facts, which you ? you are certainly free to believe or not.
And KESS V2 blocked you have seen directly ?

Ross
12-07-2013, 13:00
For the Kess I have not seen personally, but me ? was told by a trusted person.

darksoulbreaker
12-07-2013, 17:39
if after 50 scriptures crashes my kess v2...does that mean I made good money ;)

clash86
13-07-2013, 09:11
if after 50 scriptures crashes my kess v2...does that mean I made good money ;)

ahahhahahahah I!

darksoulbreaker
13-07-2013, 13:07
Eheheheheh;)

garret
13-07-2013, 14:09
if after 50 scriptures crashes my kess v2...does that mean I made good money ;)

depends, if you write 50 times your car, you have done only good to waste

darksoulbreaker
13-07-2013, 14:16
once is more than enough:cool: do my...

darksoulbreaker
13-07-2013, 14:20
apart from everything...if ipoteticament? ? true the thing of 50 credits for the kess v2...if one must work, quiet you are using a rooster v2...when you want to feel comfortable using the kess...

cristianbomberos
06-09-2013, 18:35
Hi guys,
I read the discussion and see that the kess v2 ? very reliable I speak of the original of course...I'm convinced to buy it but you have not idea of what prices are we talking about both purchase and annual updates??
Thanks

cristianbomberos
06-09-2013, 20:07


I broke up with clones for charity? work great for? when you have a problem, you don't know where to head banging and pointed out that this is not going well, and then we have to raise this market in Italy and I don't know if you agreed...

cristianbomberos
07-09-2013, 12:20
Yesterday I contacted alientech and I received the quotes, why? I asked, Kess,EcmTitanium,with K-Tag you that I recommended to start with original instruments? Why? I am tired of working with clones you always have doubts if you can affectively help or not provocandoti maybe damage, or you get a unit a little more? new and you need to tell the customer you can do that, and send it to another party...

msport (exil77grande)
07-09-2013, 14:11
if you want the top of the top go from dimsport, the genius ? the maximum? the price ? really high, moreover, the protocols that we develop them completely their

guys do not speak from hearsay.
the genius is equal to the kess seen that the two companies seem to be cousins, and develop hand in hand,but who has the size sport has a member is not official you mean that you have to pay almost any machine then you can not be competitive with those who, for example, has the kess v2 master that costs 4400€ and 1000€per year + vat subscription.

msport (exil77grande)
07-09-2013, 14:12
Yesterday I contacted alientech and I received the quotes, why? I asked, Kess,EcmTitanium,with K-Tag you that I recommended to start with original instruments? Why? I am tired of working with clones you always have doubts if you can affectively help or not provocandoti maybe damage, or you get a unit a little more? new and you need to tell the customer you can do that, and send it to another party...

if you need help please contact us via ***** we can give you the best and in addition we also have a kess v2 official master used to sell, and you may save quite a bit of money.

sno74
07-09-2013, 14:43
today how to turn the work to save a bit of money does not hurt......;)

carmageddon
07-09-2013, 16:02
if you want the top of the top go from dimsport, the genius ? the maximum? the price ? really high, moreover, the protocols that we develop them completely their

you do not have the maximum, even why? in this work, the maximum does not exist, can you? which is to say that in terms of the use to which it will be used for each avr? the ideal tool...for the speech communication protocols let it go why? NO one develops from only, buy all (or steal)? that serves to customize it to your instrument!

aldinik
07-09-2013, 21:54
The fact that they both do almost the same things kess V2 and Rooster V2 ( clones ) and the cost for the first pi? of three times the amount of the second from what ? justified?? from the fact that ? superior quality?? even if more clones are??

passion engines
08-09-2013, 00:03
Hello, ? true that there are always clones, but if you open both of the tools you realize the differences....... Depends on what you need to do knowing that the Kessv2 does not BDM

aldinik
08-09-2013, 00:23
Hello, ? true that there are always clones, but if you open both of the tools you realize the differences....... Depends on what you need to do knowing that the Kessv2 does not BDM

The kess V2 does the same things as the Rooster V2 except for the BDM, but then why? coast pi? three times as much???

passion engines
08-09-2013, 00:33
Noon are d' agreement with the rooster v2, only the version 53 is approaching and then on the Siemens ? best Kess v2

aldinik
08-09-2013, 12:10
Noon are d' agreement with the rooster v2, only the version 53 is approaching and then on the Siemens ? best Kess v2

....Allowed and not allowed that the rooster V2 fw. 53 approaches do not think that cost you the most? the triple is only why? ? best siemens, only for this?? mah???
probably there will be? the other... otherwise it would not cost so well? so in pi?.
Don't you think??

passion engines
08-09-2013, 20:21
I have all of them and three of the tools, and I know them well, from the problems to the differences and their limitations...... Coast three times why? worth the triple

robby51039
09-09-2013, 08:53
guys I started with rooster clone, and now I also kess v2 clone, that is to say, the cock is in the drawer collecting dust,only for the function recovery concept in scripture is worth three times!!!
the only flaw for me is the kess has no protocols for the truck(clone)
for the rest, every time I use I like it more and more

sno74
09-09-2013, 09:03
quoto in full robby pi? the uses and pi? you would........

aldinik
09-09-2013, 12:58
Well now I understand why? the coast in the pi?,,, bad for me that I just bought the Rooster V2 if I had known that I took directly the kess V2..but I still have to start c'? still time to buy it.
Thank you to all of the opinions... ;)

audi sp
19-09-2013, 00:14
I bought today kees v2 clone.. I would say as you say it costs the triple.. definitely there will be? a reason.. but tell me one thing.. the seller told me that I have 60 tokens available after which I have to replace the micro, at a cost of 10 €..
to all of us? c? gi? a remedy ? or ? so the procedure? you have already? had to do with the replacement of the micro?

then I did not understand if the token is used to read and write..if it was so for a car we will need 2.. ( except for unforeseen circumstances ) am I wrong?

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 00:50
made a copy of all the files that are in the micro sd and put them...so one day when they run out of tokens...paste the backup you made earlier and you back to the 60 token...

audi sp
19-09-2013, 09:33
made a copy of all the files that are in the micro sd and put them...so one day when they run out of tokens...paste the backup you made earlier and you back to the 60 token...

yes I had thought of this.. but I don't know that micro mounts.. in fact, I expect to arrive and then I try to read it... ( that is the law )

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 10:02
mount a micro sd 2 gb...the classic, which is used for the phones, you can read the cn adaptors or usb adapter sd card.

aldinik
19-09-2013, 11:08
mount a micro sd 2 gb...the classic, which is used for the phones, you can read the cn adaptors or usb adapter sd card.

Then this micro sd card ? formatted in the way that our operating systems to read, are you sure??

why? yesterday I tried to read the contents of the micro sd card is present in the interface Autocom/Delphi to make a backup and have not succeeded because? use a filesystem that is not recognized by windows...and even wanted to format it..
the removed immediately from the card reader.

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 11:15
yes, when you insert the pc recognizes it, and do the backup....while for the micro sd in the diagnosis of the files within the law, only the software autocom/delphi

sno74
19-09-2013, 11:24
but this solution also applies if I have already? done a bit of scripture, or only if you do a bk from new say......

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 12:13

sno74
19-09-2013, 12:36
yes, but they are all the same in the case someone I can? pass the reading, or just serves the bk of my....

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 12:58
mmmh...I think they are all the same...it's not? that will tell you.

audi sp
19-09-2013, 13:11
mmmhhh.. not to me seems to be so.. the seller has confirmed to me that sends me a microprocessor to unsolder and resolder

darksoulbreaker
19-09-2013, 13:18
this thing ? strange that you send a microprocessor...I do not understand very x? the little s? and from what I understand..the files that manage the token, etc are inside the micro sd card which is located in kess.

ugoboss
19-09-2013, 13:55
if any of you out there have the' give it a try, do yourself a back-up to do some writing subsidiaries that is decremented the number, and then restores all the back-up and see the difference.
many chinese sites selling already the version without any token to climb.

audi sp
19-09-2013, 14:36
as soon as I get I do a good research and photos.. so let's do some explaining as you renew the token, I'll know when I get there

darksoulbreaker
20-09-2013, 12:30
Thanks in advance audi sp:D

sno74
20-09-2013, 13:24
as soon as I get I do a good research and photos.. so let's do some explaining as you renew the token, I'll know when I get there
ok we are waiting for your bk.....

ugoboss
20-09-2013, 16:56
the versions of "good" ones that cost the most? of 200 € to understand, there are 500 scriptures before the block, but the counter only registers the scriptures on the edc17 simos pcr siemens etc., the edc 15 and 16 do not register

because there are kessv2 below 200 €, I never seen even under 300 €.

darksoulbreaker
20-09-2013, 19:26
the versions of "good" ones that cost the most? of 200 € to understand, there are 500 scriptures before the block, but the counter only registers the scriptures on the edc17 simos pcr siemens etc., the edc 15 and 16 do not register

what I have I paid 450€...and this morning, by contacting the person who sold it to me said that it should be either 30 or 60 tokens...and also told me that they sell the microprocessor to be replaced with the one that has the token finished....I thought that it was a problem of micro sd mah...

darksoulbreaker
20-09-2013, 20:10
the first required the replacement of the micro once you have finished with the token, which usually were 50, the modified version has 500 token available and are charged only with the ecu's edc17, siemens new e-series ecu's produced after 2012, at least the version that I have ? cos?

Porter...but the x-micro you mean the microprocessor or micro sd...I don't understand yet that need is micro sd's? so the tokens are in the microrocessore.
in the micro sd card there are 4 folders: file, log, system, update,...

darksoulbreaker
20-09-2013, 20:10
then I noticed that from the backup that I made of the micro sd logs are increased

darksoulbreaker
10-10-2013, 11:01
Yep, I got to squeeze the microprocessor of my kess ? arrived in 60 the scriptures precise...I have replaced it and ? broken down by work

sno74
10-10-2013, 12:20
so, the solution ? still replace the micro....

ugoboss
10-10-2013, 14:19
so, the solution ? still replace the micro....

many say that it was passed the problem on it and no more problems token ,other year 500 token before the block, and a raffle.

sno74
10-10-2013, 15:58
I asked from china that I bought it and store all the talk about of 60 tokens... now that I know I, k-tag, without token....

rego88
10-10-2013, 17:12
I my kess, one of the first between' l' I stuck to 50 scriptures....
mo' I ordered 2 micro.... let's see when I arrive then I will be able to post also my situation.
a friend of mine told me that he has written a lot of times the 1.3 mjet 95cv and made many other cars used billions of times and never a problem....
c'? to say that I have done scripture readings with the connection turned on, but I do not know if it does.....

linus146
10-10-2013, 21:55
I vitso today that the price became reasonable, and so I decided
after reading so many messages on the forum to take one
between the cock and kess, I know that there is comparison

audi sp
10-10-2013, 23:15
sorry, but if usually a micro containing 50 token costs around 12 € .. I think it's really worth it to buy it..
I am still on the high seas with mine.. but where you see the token that you climb I have remaining?

rego88
10-10-2013, 23:56
sorry, but if usually a micro containing 50 token costs around 12 € .. I think it's really worth it to buy it..
I am still on the high seas with mine.. but where you see the token that you climb I have remaining?
the problem is not the 50 scriptures.... the problem is 290 feet to be welded between 2.5 cm by 2.5..... and considers that heats that you riscolda at the end of the ski jump!!

motorsport
11-10-2013, 00:07
azz a good bashing!!

audi sp
11-10-2013, 01:50
wow... beautiful mange then.. well hopefully!

ugoboss
11-10-2013, 07:18
I vitso today that the price became reasonable, and so I decided
after reading so many messages on the forum to take one
between the cock and kess, I know that there is comparison

has that price you found.

linus146
11-10-2013, 08:14
I think that if you must change the micro should do the work of a technician, which is often the kind of works

and I think that with a station infrared this work is better than hot air

darksoulbreaker
11-10-2013, 19:20
many say that it was passed the problem on it and no more problems token ,other year 500 token before the block, and a raffle.

500 tokens are for the ktag, not for the kess.

sno74
11-10-2013, 19:31
I also vdu hard to solder the micro with hot air welder I do not I would not even risk of damaging the tracks of the pcb, then throw the whole, however, the china that sells the micro then when it comes if not you have a job doc, I am afraid that the kess do not go more.....

robby51039
15-10-2013, 09:39
sorry also of interest to me to know how do you see the remaining tokens....then clean up the sd card as you do?you need to open and pull it out?what should I delete?
however, when I bought it I had proccupato that you could block, but from china, I answered that there were limits to write...my' resistance welded inside.....

ugoboss
15-10-2013, 10:42
500 tokens are for the ktag, not for the kess.

I explained it badly, I meant to say that after the 60 token by changing the cip (not easy) the new 500 token, I believe that soon they will begin to mount these series.

V.V.
15-10-2013, 14:40

robby51039
16-10-2013, 00:20
guys on various sites is the micro 60 token for kess v2 and 500 tokens for ktag.......:(

r6raven2010
25-10-2013, 22:03
now for the k-tag c? are the versions without the token... for the kess still no... who of you has the kess clone?

linus146
25-10-2013, 23:12
I would like to take

sno74
25-10-2013, 23:17
let's say that 500 tokens for k-tag, there are few if you block his duty, he did it.......while 60 token for kess v2 ones are a little short even why? in serial you write more......

Scooby
27-10-2013, 11:46
As you can? distinguish the best version?

atomiczen
28-10-2013, 00:45
do not give heed, I among the many serial that I have gold and I have not even a kess 2 clone, the first processor ? that lasted less than 50 scriptures, the second taken in July 2013 still 50 scriptures, when the substitute itself? for the third time, I believe that the pcb I abbandoner?...the card ? very well made, on par with the ori, but according to me more than 2-3 welds of the processor, not the palaces,...

atomiczen
28-10-2013, 00:48
As you can? distinguish the best version?

I know the chinese factory for now ? one that produces the kess, and with regard to the duration of the new processors I have heard around that c'? confusion about the precise number of scriptures allowed why? the counter salt only to the scriptures with new protocols, but does not count the writing with the old protocols.
then, as they say, you can flesh also 2000 edc15, but perhaps only 30-40 edc17

sno74
28-10-2013, 01:24
while writing edc 16 and the counter salt or not you know something in regard to this........

atomiczen
28-10-2013, 01:34
while writing edc 16 and the counter salt or not you know something in regard to this........
as I wrote I have heard, I have no direct experience about it, so I don't know answer...

tecnoecu
08-11-2013, 14:02
I agree, I own the original and I've done a recovery concept with a edc17 vag group

Riccardo#28
06-12-2013, 15:02
forgive the ignorance, with the kess v2 clone that sw are supplied?

dviden
06-12-2013, 15:32
Their computers 1.89

Riccardo#28
06-12-2013, 16:21
thanks! ;)

sno74
06-12-2013, 16:39
I agree, I own the original and I've done a recovery concept with a edc17 vag group
then just marks on the eoc 17 this wanted to say....

robby51039
07-12-2013, 12:04
guys I have kess v2 clone yesterday has given me-the scriptures of the remaining 9,connect the instrument to update filmware-
only done the scriptures serial no edc 17 a couple of pcr2.1 and delphi 3.5
do you have solutions on this?

I take this opportunity to ask a question: I wanted to make an adc 17cp18(opel) but it gave me the id .....do read the full(!?!?)
I noticed that the sd card is not there' nothing can be for that??

marco
07-12-2013, 12:17
hello devicambiare eprom internally, there are kess v2 that after 60 scriptures lock greetings
guys I have kess v2 clone yesterday has given me-the scriptures of the remaining 9,connect the instrument to update filmware-
only done the scriptures serial no edc 17 a couple of pcr2.1 and delphi 3.5
do you have solutions on this?

sno74
07-12-2013, 12:48
where do you find the counter of the scriptures in the sw of the kess v2 also I use it and I wanted to see how many scriptures I still have but you have to change the micro does not exist a system to bring back the token to 0, or not to mark the scriptures.........

robby51039
08-12-2013, 09:51
I wanted to see how many scriptures I was doing last log scriptures, but nothing I thought it was as I had read that stored only the special (edc17...)
however, now I have to trovareuna solution.
P.S. someone I can go through what it is inside of the sd card lamia is empty!

dom86
22-01-2014, 23:00
evening all, but cm is to purchase your product ? I visited the online store, but I agree with mark nothing help me I'm going crazy x buy a kess v2 clone reliable

Riccardo#28
23-01-2014, 14:16
someone can? confirm that the ones sold today with the inscription "no tokens limited" are actually free?

angelolsp
23-01-2014, 15:21
directly contact the staff of the forum and they will clarify all your doubts!!

leandro89
24-01-2014, 16:08
evening all, but cm is to purchase your product ? I visited the online store, but I agree with mark nothing help me I'm going crazy x buy a kess v2 clone reliable

you can leave us your telephone number by clicking in the bottom of the button "contact us" writing what you are interested in

rdponline
26-01-2014, 13:51
Guys kessv2 and ktag I go to a fairy tale...I write without problems and thoughts... then I always go to ktag I like the most is to work with the ecu open and then do the backup... not a small thing, I'm always safe... I have unlocked as well edc17 blocked write serial after release tour, not blocked by me but by a friend with cock v53.

motorsport
26-01-2014, 19:02
in fact, the purchase incoming investment is secure, then with two gizmos++++you are always covered :)))

Mr.Flash
13-02-2014, 12:58
according to me, to be called a good investment, it should be clear how it works the counter scriptures and how many tokens you have available.... otherwise you risk being to walk on the most beautiful .....
I think what is needed is a relationship of trust with your seller , so that you know how to give you the technical support which you will definitely need when your kess comincer? to communicate the counter ? in exhaustion.

bugrider
18-02-2014, 23:21
hello sorry I could direct you where you can buy thanks david

audi sp
08-03-2014, 23:47
guys I just wanted to warn you that the solution of the token ? only a change in the micro..I tried to rewrite the sd card that c? inside.. but nothing changes..I had a bk of sd, but nothing was done.. so all the ktag and I say all are locked after a certain number of programming.. you do not believe st.....and you say!

rodcraft86
07-04-2014, 18:24
from what you say, the kessv2 block 60 the scriptures while the ktag 500 scriptures, the first reset with the jlink "if it works," while for the latter, you change the processor

Mr.Flash
08-04-2014, 12:23
? as a matter of token.... some scriptures require token and others are not....... then you can't? say 60 scriptures or 500 scriptures , can you? rather say 60 tokens........ that may be 60 the scriptures, or to a thousand scriptures..... depending on the ecu that you write!

rodcraft86
08-04-2014, 17:12
I fully agree, I had generalized incorrectly

ugoboss
08-04-2014, 17:29
the last of the clones to read what they write should not have more than one token.

alien78
08-04-2014, 19:24
the last of the clones to read what they write should not have more than one token.
I ugoboss now there are versions of kess v2 token recyclable cio? in practice, they give you a tool to reset the token

rodcraft86
08-04-2014, 21:15
it's called jlink, is provided with specific software and needles to be welded to the back of the card, but it seems that some may not work

you may, if the regulation allows, make a list of the ecu that the kess fatigue or even writes and reads

Zac
11-05-2014, 15:47
you may, if the regulation allows, make a list of the ecu that the kess fatigue or even writes and reads

it would be very interesting !!

sno74
11-05-2014, 16:07
it's called jlink, is provided with specific software and needles to be welded to the back of the card, but it seems that some may not work

you may, if the regulation allows, make a list of the ecu that the kess fatigue or even writes and reads
Kess v2 clone at the moment it detects the toll is the most stable it all depends on the quality? of the PCB if you don't want to run to do tests or tests, rely on the service of the online shop of the forum..........

Mr.Flash
12-05-2014, 13:28
there are special cases where it comes out.............. for example, the last antituning (I ? happened to a vw import updated at the beginning of 2013 that you do not ? made to do it) ... and also other problems with a pcr 2.1 a audi 1.6 , both of which have not been recognized for reading. Not ? a problem of the pcb in as far as it goes very well with all the rest, only 2 isolated cases, but they do understand that the original tool ? definitely more forward.....

Zac
12-05-2014, 17:38
then all the ktag and tell you all seem to stop working after a certain number of programming.. don't believe the st.....and that is saying!

but are you sure ?? also the last that we are on the road without a token ?

alfonsoh
21-05-2014, 23:54
I have seen the ones that sell no limitation sell the kess with the programmer jlink jtag. reading on the website of a vendor, you must solder on kess a comb and connect it to the jlink, they give you a file and a program to use with the jlink to reset the token without desoldering the micro.
at least I understood it so?

instead, for the ktag after 500 scriptures throw it and buy another, his work has done and should retire

Ross
22-05-2014, 00:41
The micro ? erasable. You can customer has itself paid one of the empty and load the sw without the limits of tokens

passion engines
22-05-2014, 00:54

Ross
22-05-2014, 12:24

alfonsoh
22-05-2014, 14:34
no, even with the old kess just replace the micro with one that you can? overwrite several times, you connect the jlink and resets the token.
the new kess v2 already have the micro rewriteable.

Ross
22-05-2014, 14:54
The micro ? erasable. You can customer has itself paid one of the empty and load the sw without the limits of tokens

I wrote above

alfonsoh
22-05-2014, 15:00
[08.18.33] seller: 1 Newest Version: V1.89
2 No tokens.THE j-tag chips only have 60 tokens in the unit,but we send you on programmer in the package,you can charge tokens by your own,it has the user manual on how to do it.pls don't worry.
[08.18.57]xxx: I know no need to desolder the motorola chip true??
[08.19.20]xxx: just plug the jlink programmer
[08.19.24] xxx: to kess
[08.19.27]seller: no need,only program the chip in the main unit,the yesyes,only Jlink

I do not quite understand, you mean to tell me that ? rewriteable and this chinese vendor tells me that I can upload the token on the chip, has left me to understand that I can overwrite what I want without the need to replace the micro.

I have bought from this seller ? the two weeks that I am waiting for, then I will arrive? a kess limit of 60 tokens, you will have to? buy a micro vacuum by putting in a software without the limits of the token?


I'm confused someone can? elucidate?


Ross the first version was cos?, or forced to buy a new chip that is different from allow to rewrite every time you run out of tokens, the current ones already? are equipped with the new chip, but you always have to reload it.....

I believe that he is right passion engines from what I have heard around

sparpaecu
27-05-2014, 11:45
I will tell you my experience with the kess v2 bought online. Unfortunately I ? happened to an interface of quality? poor. It seemed a miracle that it worked. Even if I have to say that on the machines slightly more? issues (edc16 ford or bmw)? regularly PLANTED as every piece of junk worthy of the name. Paid over 400e fortunately refunded after a long dispute. On mine, complete with j-link and chip, reprogrammable, there was already? the preparation for the programming. From the rumors, there is a way to "transform" version the slave the master full. Given that there are always a lot of money in prom case ever ? preferable to buy one of these with the original hardware and have a minimum warranty on the result of the work.

alfonsoh
27-05-2014, 21:13
hello, where did you read that ? can transform the v2 slave master? thanks

if I had the latest version of the software kess and trasformassi the slave into the master does not need to buy the protocols slave right? it would be enough to download the software kess, who should go? or should I find a version of the software kess cracked that functions with the master?

sno74
27-05-2014, 21:34
Today I heard a friend ? more than one of the various kess of the internship that you send it with jlink, but the micro does not ? writable then you have to change it again to the micro you pay attention to what comprate...........

marco_evolution
28-05-2014, 17:04
I long ago I wanted to buy it braked by this block and the write-through jlink I've never been convinced..Even if you feel a friend of mine says that it works.

msport (exil77grande)
29-05-2014, 23:26
be careful not to go into details because the rules forbid it,this forum is not for hackers, etc., which is clear.

lupo1
15-07-2014, 11:02
hello all, I have heard that some have had problems with the edc15, and are not even able to read them, it is also, for you? does anyone know what ? due to?

dom86
15-07-2014, 14:12
Today I heard a friend ? more than one of the various kess of the internship that you send it with jlink, but the micro does not ? writable then you have to change it again to the micro you pay attention to what comprate...........
I my already rescheduled cn the j-link ? I can tell you that you just have to figure out a good cm to operate the j-link and the game ? the fact

lupo1
15-07-2014, 14:42
I my already rescheduled cn the j-link ? I can tell you that you just have to figure out a good cm to operate the j-link and the game ? the fact
Then you have not changed the micro? only reprogrammed with j-link? No other problem? This tool tries me for a long time, I almost gave in and I'll buy it...:)

dom86
15-07-2014, 18:16
Then you have not changed the micro? only reprogrammed with j-link? No other problem? This tool tries me for a long time, I almost gave in and I'll buy it...:)
no I have not changed anything the only riprogramm the nxp's just that I would like to work cn a version more recent kess k tag but I don't dare try x not to risk d block all

ake85
19-09-2014, 16:45
I bought today kees v2 clone.. I would say as you say it costs the triple.. definitely there will be? a reason.. but tell me one thing.. the seller told me that I have 60 tokens available after which I have to replace the micro, at a cost of 10 ?..
to all of us? c? gi? a remedy ? or ? so the procedure? you have already? had to do with the replacement of the micro?

then I did not understand if the token is used to read and write..if it was so for a car we will need 2.. ( except for unforeseen circumstances ) am I wrong?

Hello can I know why everyone says that the kess ? best of the cock?I have the v54 but I would like to buy the kess v2 can I know what is pu? make the most and because they all say that ? best?

robo
07-11-2014, 06:54
they say that it is upgradeable ? very good in any case!

Four
07-11-2014, 19:46
which version should find right now?

robo
07-11-2014, 20:15
To read the edc15 just put a diode searched on the web diode 1n4148 and a stabilisation of the k line.

vicius_the_one
10-01-2015, 02:34
stabilizes **it. it stucks kess on the MINIMUM SPEED for read / write...

jack91
31-01-2015, 08:56
Yesterday I had a problem with kess v2 in a edc16 c39, read quietly, but then to write I got always cone ever and I have also set the speed? at a minimum, but crashed the same then me and also pop-up the indicator code and I was do not even the id... I forgot to make the recovery xk then I took the magpro v4.2 and I have written it with that.

fabiovts88
31-01-2015, 14:27
I Monday I have to make a edc16c39 grande punto 1.9 130hp say that I'll have problems with the kess v2 ?

jack91
01-02-2015, 09:16
No I don't think

sportknight
02-02-2015, 09:43
I have both the kess the cock but honestly I prefer the cock...

vicius_the_one
02-02-2015, 15:11
the cock is good but very dangerous since sometimes writes blindly and block the ecu. kess is safer although it is a tricky tool that is hard to fix...

somebody please edit my previous post (cockerel, with the cock)

i dont understand....somebody unify my posts. i want to write g in ll and tt or

angelolsp
02-02-2015, 18:50
Also to me, and I kess you ? a blocked edc16c39 croma

rodcraft86
02-02-2015, 20:33
ditto for me on a c39 of a multi-1.9 120 hp, fixed in serial with the cock

vicius_the_one
02-02-2015, 20:43
Clone or original? What firmware?

jack91
25-02-2015, 08:35
But have you put the speed? writing to a minimum?

passion engines
27-02-2015, 14:15
if you do add. hw as vicius's will is explaining you will see that the tool works perfect

Mr.Flash
02-03-2015, 16:03
update hw are you talking about ? or are you referring to changing the speed? ?

passion engines
02-03-2015, 23:08
vicius's you are talking about the modification of the hw to get it to work, if you use a sd card quality? top to your supplied will decrease the response time of the sw, then if you add. also fw and sw ? the maximum.......................

ugoboss
03-03-2015, 06:58
but c? way to know what are these hardware modifications, a list of components to be replaced (a little bit like you are doing with the cock v54), or for now are only for a fee? I do not speak of the change to the firmware, but only with the hw.

Mr.Flash
03-03-2015, 14:17
the point of it ? which I do not find this very message where vicius's talk about a change in the HW. But what is most important, I don't understand cos'? that should not work on a 1.89 classic. ????

vicius_the_one
there is more than you imagine. there is even a free version of my rework around the world....but far away than beeing complete. tool is very tricky.

bimmer
11-04-2015, 14:28
on the kess to update the list of cars serves both to update firmware and software

cristianbomberos
12-04-2015, 11:20
Hello guys I would like some advice from you I'm about to buy a tool in the original but I'm undecided between magicmotorsport or alientech you what you tell me?

Thanks a lot to all

bimmer
12-04-2015, 13:28
very similar.. but I throw on alientech ..

cristianbomberos
12-04-2015, 18:06
B? I also think seglier? alientech

bimmer
12-04-2015, 18:35
wise decision :)