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michele30
22-06-2013, 22:15
I've seen that even having the driver of the ecm doesn't find me the anticpi, who I can give a hand to figure out where you are in this map?

marco
22-06-2013, 23:08
I'm sorry, cash advances, there are I see them but that the ecm uses the 2001 or titanium., however, advances are being.

SandroMarciano
22-06-2013, 23:59
on this map you find them *1D0A20 and following. Are 5 maps.

panterargento
23-06-2013, 17:08
I've seen that even having the driver of the ecm doesn't find me the anticpi, who I can give a hand to figure out where you are in this map?

If you use ecm Titanium are the ones that I have enclosed in the red box in the attached image, called the injection Phase and are 5.

angelolsp
23-06-2013, 17:31
a driver cme this and can use it also with 147 150 hp right?

panterargento
23-06-2013, 17:46
a driver cme this and can use it also with 147 150 hp right?

I do not understand what you mean...every car and, therefore, each unit has its own driver, I think that if two different coaches (for example, alfa 159 and 147) have the same hw and sw, you could use the same drivers...

savek
23-06-2013, 20:01
don't touch them and let them gold if you make a map soft

angelolsp
24-06-2013, 22:44
For example, x write you can use the same platform as the 159 x write another edc 16 c39 I wanted to know if the addresses were the same, and then the driver of the 159 compared to the
147 I said the same thing

danny677
25-06-2013, 05:11
They may very well have different addresses, even among families hw identical, however, with ecm tita if you load the file and its driver to go under injection phase and you change them.
If you are referring to the drive of mpps for example, you could write the 147 with the driver of the 159, I've done a myth 1.6 jtm in the k-line with the driver of the 159.

michele30
25-06-2013, 21:05
I know that the anticpi you do not need to increase much, just 2 / 3 % I think, but the editing is all over the map or not?
by changing to 2 degrees, what are the advantages of having already change pedal, pair, rail and turbo?

carlo abarth
25-06-2013, 21:12
moddando these you see, and as the difference!!!!!
If you use ecm Titanium are the ones that I have enclosed in the red box in the attached image, called the injection Phase and are 5.

panterargento
25-06-2013, 22:53
I don't think that 2 degrees equal to 2%, 1 degree if I'm not mistaken ? equal to 43 points, therefore, about 15%, of course, depends on the point of the increase.
If I said bullshit bastonatemi...

SandroMarciano
26-06-2013, 08:45
I don't think that 2 degrees equal to 2%, 1 degree if I'm not mistaken ? equal to 43 points, therefore, about 15%, of course, depends on the point of the increase.
If I said bullshit bastonatemi...
correct, 1?=43pt

lupak
06-07-2013, 01:59
Hello michele30, the grades you anticipate for example, if the maximum IQ that you have in the' axis of advance ? 60 mm3 and from the map of the pair, pedal, timing, and limiters various demand 80mm3 to inject 20 mm3, which would otherwise inject after the P. M. S., and will, only black smoke.
For the changes to soft not c' ? the need to touch the cli payments if, for example, increases the rail pressure in the moment that we ask for more fuel.
read this discussion : https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?3076-Parere-mappa-159-1-9-Mjet-150cv
that definitely explains it better.

SandroMarciano
06-07-2013, 08:43
Hello michele30, the grades you anticipate for example, if the maximum IQ that you have in the' axis of advance ? 60 mm3 and from the map of the pair, pedal, timing, and limiters various demand 80mm3 to inject 20 mm3, which would otherwise inject after the P. M. S., and will, only black smoke.
For the changes to soft not c' ? the need to touch the cli payments if, for example, increases the rail pressure in the moment that we ask for more fuel.
read this discussion : https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?3076-Parere-mappa-159-1-9-Mjet-150cv
that definitely explains it better.

The speech essentially ? correct, I do 2 unique details:

1 - ? normal for you to have an injection that ends after the tdc, also from the original happens,
2 - there are some precautions to take to ensure that even if the "splash" after the tdc is effective and does not produce only black smoke.

lupak
06-07-2013, 23:50
If I'm not mistaken, you should not go beyond 5? after the P. M. S.

SandroMarciano
07-07-2013, 10:42

There are very precise rules, it all depends on how quickly you turn on the diesel.

lupak
07-07-2013, 23:34
Hello Sandro, frankly, the concept I understand, but in practice are not able to see how many degrees it ends the injection, and ? one thing that I would like to learn.

tidus1985
10-07-2013, 00:55
you do realize that on a jtdm 120cv as my to 80mm3 from the original injections finoscono also 8? after the pms ? a calculation that you can do only if you know well how it works is the ecu, do a clue, the ecu reads the map pedal, asks 300nm, go to see on the map conversion how many mm3 are 300mn and sees, for example, 70mm3, then we are, for example, at 2500 rpm, see what rail pressure c'? from the map at 2500 rpm with 70mm3 of diesel and goes fishing, the time of injection relative to 70mm3 with the rail pressure is read in the map of the rail, knowing how many of us want it to 2500 rpm to inject 70mm3 to tot presisone rail you divide this number by the time that 2500 in the us we want to do a degree, and thus to the nghezza of injection in degrees, then subtract the advance that is on the table advances at that rpm and that demand of diesel and you have your time of injection after tdc, expressed in degrees

jacktheripper2
10-11-2013, 02:54
you do realize that on a jtdm 120cv as my to 80mm3 from the original injections finoscono also 8? after the pms ? a calculation that you can do only if you know well how it works is the ecu, do a clue, the ecu reads the map pedal, asks 300nm, go to see on the map conversion how many mm3 are 300mn and sees, for example, 70mm3, then we are, for example, at 2500 rpm, see what rail pressure c'? from the map at 2500 rpm with 70mm3 of diesel and goes fishing, the time of injection relative to 70mm3 with the rail pressure is read in the map of the rail, knowing how many of us want it to 2500 rpm to inject 70mm3 to tot presisone rail you divide this number by the time that 2500 in the us we want to do a degree, and thus to the nghezza of injection in degrees, then subtract the advance that is on the table advances at that rpm and that demand of diesel and you have your time of injection after tdc, expressed in degrees

Hello Tidus, I would like to make a clarification that does not ? been made. In the map ori ? wrong look at the times for 80mm3 to look at how many degrees of EOI you have why? from
not inietter? that quantity?, count the 1.9 120 hp injects about 58mm3 to 4000 rpm while the 1.9 16v injects 62mm3 to 4000 rpm, in that case then you will need to look at the value that you have in the map in advance and the time to 60mm3 and you'll see that at 4000 rpm the injection ends right at tdc while over 4000 rpm it also ends 5 degrees before, because the injection will go? to decrease and therefore also the time of the injection, but the advance will be? always pi? high even with a low iq if you see the com'? made the map. From the original there are a maximum of around 7 degrees of EOI at low rpm.