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emilground
18-06-2013, 20:10
Hi guys, having to now replace the core assy for a 159 1.9 150cv I was wondering if there was something more? performance can be mounted on the discharge line and turbocharger original, or at least only on the drain line.
Thanks to all for the attention :)

SandroMarciano
18-06-2013, 21:42
I advise you to install a turbine new official garrett, the price ? much more? high, but then the end-during the life. If you want to increase performance then it really changes the turbine and is mounted on a gtb1549v (2.0 jtdm 170cv) a gtb2056v (2.4 jtdm 210cv) or a gtb2260vk (audi 3.0 tdi). In case you must completely replace the turbine adaptation tasks to be done are many, so do your accounts!

motorsport
18-06-2013, 22:03
I would say for nn exaggerate a beautiful gtb1549v!!

emilground
18-06-2013, 22:19
well, better not to overdo it, ? only to have more? reliability? with pressures pi? high standard ones on the 150 hp.
but the gtb1549v you can? fit at least on the part of the original exhaust of the 150hp ? if ? cos? I'll take it. Ultimately what I'm looking for ? some thing a little more? performance and fit without problems, especially on the exhaust side

mariodarkblue
18-06-2013, 22:26
I have to say that I do not know the gtb1549...but honestly, not the monterei...what is the meaning of in and out even more? the exhaust?
I speak as a former owner of the stylus jtd115 with gt2256v managed with mechanical valve pressure...and from which they jumped out 210cv...and I have a friend who help with 147 jtd115 with vnt 25 always managed to pressure that has rolled 195cv...
Now, with the good mjet150 hp (only skat and panel filter) I can say I definitely have a couple more at the bottom...but to 3800 the car ? over...you can hear the engine "close"...
I had to change the turbine, without thinking twice...or gt2260vk or a nice turbine fixed (do not tell me about lag or a chat by the bar, the stylus tir? out of 45kg of torque and the 147 he made 40...)...set up pretty well for a 2bar...

emilground
18-06-2013, 22:36
you understand that you can? get a lot with turbines pi? large and high pressures, for? not ? what I'm looking for this machine. That a few more thing? pressure compared to the original that allows me to maintain the full standard? of the turbo, practically would work under the same pressures for which ? built but giving me more? the original turbo. The key thing in my case ? not having to change or modify the part of the exhaust. I need a core assy that is replaceable without many problems. the core assy gtb1549v I don't know if it is compatible, but if it were, at least from the side exhaust really there I would think.. Or at least if there was another type

mariodarkblue
19-06-2013, 09:25
you understand that you can? get a lot with turbines pi? large and high pressures, for? not ? what I'm looking for this machine. That a few more thing? pressure compared to the original that allows me to maintain the full standard? of the turbo, practically would work under the same pressures for which ? built but giving me more? the original turbo. The key thing in my case ? not having to change or modify the part of the exhaust. I need a core assy that is replaceable without many problems. the core assy gtb1549v I don't know if it is compatible, but if it were, at least from the side exhaust really there I would think.. Or at least if there was another type

Hello..I understand your reasoning...even if you don't agree:)
The turbine of the 159mjet 150hp ? gi? for s? a good turbine...keep it to 1.5 on mine, no problem...and also on 147mjet my brother the same thing...
Now, if you can't make changes, I recommend that you replace the original...or, I if possible, mount the impeller intake increased (I think I read you could put the impeller 52 or 56)...and stop.Con impeller plus will allow the turbine to always give you the same pressure as before, but with fewer turns.
Mount the core assy 1549 I find it a nonsense...for the reasons mentioned above;)

SandroMarciano
19-06-2013, 09:51
I think that the turbines mentioned are absolutely ibridabili, the gtb ? a turbine of the second generation, completely different. Mario does not ? true that the 1549v ? a turbine that is not worth the mount, the turbine modern make the double compared to the gt series. Counts that this runs at 1.7 bar *3500rpm with a peak of 1.8. Now on my 159 runs *1.8 bar and 2 constant. obvious that a 2056 or 2260 are other turbines, but not everyone wants to squeeze the most out of your engine. Gi? the one above holding *1.7 bar you would have reliability? equal to the original machine and performance over 200cv (with a little bit of smoke), not to mention the fact that the engine would have a response from the aspirate.

Ghizmo
19-06-2013, 11:13
Slowly Garrett is always more? updating its line of turbochargers.
By now we arrived to the GTD ( which should be the fourth generation ) with regard to the versions of the variables for the diesel.


From what little I understand they have also changed the nomenclature, the GTB1549V ? a nice turbo equivalent....if not superior to the GT1749MV mounted on the 159.
Surely, gi? series, working with pressures much more? high, and then have to be ir? "tough".

GT1749MV
http://www.turbochargers.nl/img/turbochargers/773721-5001S_5425.jpg
http://www.turbochargers.nl/img/turbochargers/773721-5001S_5430.jpg

GTB1549V


SandroMarciano
19-06-2013, 12:18
damn, I didn't know we were at the "D", I was the "C" mounted on some cars of the vag group, and to think that on my own I spent the most? of 1000€ to mount a gt...

mariodarkblue
19-06-2013, 14:39
:O oh dear...but these are turbines as if they were pizza:O
and actually the 1549 seems to grandicella...would have to see the charts...even if..2.5 bar of a 2260vk...I think that is a different story...
From my account, I think that the choice of a turbo (using processing) depends very much on what you want from the car...for example, I find my bravo very tasty, but virtually 3800 I feel it's over...but it was good the stylus with the 2256v that still remained guidabilissima at low revs, but that from 2500 up to 5000 pulled like a damn..

SandroMarciano
19-06-2013, 17:47
:O oh dear...but these are turbines as if they were pizza:O
and actually the 1549 seems to grandicella...would have to see the charts...even if..2.5 bar of a 2260vk...I think that is a different story...
From my account, I think that the choice of a turbo (using processing) depends very much on what you want from the car...for example, I find my bravo very tasty, but virtually 3800 I feel it's over...but it was good the stylus with the 2256v that still remained guidabilissima at low revs, but that from 2500 up to 5000 pulled like a damn..
but ? obvious that a gtb1549v not ? comparable to a 2260, turbines belonging to target completely different! Compare 1549 with the 1749 and you'll see that everything changes, 1749 *1,5 *4000rpm ? out of performance, instead of the 1549 ? in the middle *1.6...

mariodarkblue
19-06-2013, 21:44
Sandro...where can I find the graph of the 1549v???on the website garret...nothing...

savek
23-06-2013, 20:06
but then how do you mount it on if the 1549 has the electric actuator?

SandroMarciano
24-06-2013, 09:49
but then how do you mount it on if the 1549 has the electric actuator?
You have 2 possibilities,
1 mounts a actuator pressure (losing the chance? adjustment of the pressure, always having the maximum achievable up to a value set on the actuator
2 mounts a actuator adjusted to the depression in such a way that the machine works as if the turbine was a normal gt1749 then maintaining the possibility? have an overboost etc etc

mikyrace82
24-06-2013, 14:00
yeah, I did the same thing with the 2260vk mounted on my golf IV TDI. I mounted the management of depression is that you can manage so everything from the map. However, in doing this mod to rely on those who craft, otherwise it goes crazy.

clash86
24-06-2013, 14:12
Mario saw that you had the 2256v under the stylus, I in these days I'm editing, that pressure turned in reliability

mariodarkblue
24-06-2013, 14:21
Mario saw that you had the 2256v under the stylus, I in these days I'm editing, that pressure turned in reliability??

Hello clash...
I had the gt2256v managed with pressure valve controlled mechanically...the actuator was the point mjt70cv, and turned with a press, a fixed 1.5 (piccate read to 1.65/1.7)...with an overboost the outside of the crown disel...I turned to 1.8 constant...and has never given me problems...
Of course I had the pressure gauge turbo car and the temperature in the oil to keep everything at a glance...anyway I raced onto the track to the isam anagni with outside temperatures of 40? (it was in June of last year h.14 in the afternoon) and after 3 or 4 rounds to stick, the oil was on the 125?...and never given any problems..

SandroMarciano
24-06-2013, 14:48
yeah, I did the same thing with the 2260vk mounted on my golf IV TDI. I mounted the management of depression is that you can manage so everything from the map. However, in doing this mod to rely on those who craft, otherwise it goes crazy.

Not all those in the trade know how to calibrate a variable geometry electronic map, then this speech to me ? without sense, even why? the ability to make changes very little, the attempts to regulate it must make those ? of the trade! Among other things, a work of the kind made by someone who knows do I think it is not worth less than a 1000€...

*clash which 2256 mountains? the 156 2.4 it was of 2 types, one that makes better mid-range (150), a better high (175).

mikyrace82
24-06-2013, 23:06
I did not mean for the electronic part, but I meant to mount the actuator by a good turbinista. It should be regulated in a certain way otherwise the pi? good of the mappers there will be? to****. It makes sense now?

mikyrace82
24-06-2013, 23:09
I did not mean for the electronic part, but I meant to mount the actuator by a good turbinista. It should be regulated in a certain way otherwise the pi? good of the mappers there will be? to****. It makes sense now?

I wrote "****" and I appeared the asterisks? not ? a dirty word!?

msport (exil77grande)
25-06-2013, 07:48
I wrote "****" and I appeared the asterisks? not ? a dirty word!?

in this forum the word c-a-p-or is it censored.

SandroMarciano
25-06-2013, 07:49
I did not mean for the electronic part, but I meant to mount the actuator by a good turbinista. It should be regulated in a certain way otherwise the pi? good of the mappers there will be? to****. It makes sense now?

Yes, but this is assumed, even why? otherwise it becomes impossible to adjust!

clash86
25-06-2013, 16:35
I'm editing one of the 175cv derivation part... Honest are a p? doubtful about that pressure to make it turn... I advice Mario?

SandroMarciano
26-06-2013, 08:52
I'm editing one of the 175cv derivation part... Honest are a p? doubtful about that pressure to make it turn... I advice Mario?

if you keep it electronic, you can send it *2bar at 3250rpm, then get off above and below. as the other references is that if you want hard very *4250rpm, the pressure will have? down necessarily under 1.7 bar and *2000rpm it will have? stay under 1.6, otherwise you risk the surge.

mariodarkblue
26-06-2013, 08:59
if you keep it electronic, you can send it *2bar at 3250rpm, then get off above and below. as the other references is that if you want hard very *4250rpm, the pressure will have? down necessarily under 1.7 bar and *2000rpm it will have? stay under 1.6, otherwise you risk the surge.

@ sandro...if you keep it mechanical instead of, I don't supererei the 1.8 constant...of course you can get in... (but that is of dubious utility?) shorten the useful life of the turbine...

clash86
26-06-2013, 09:06
I thought of the 1.9 peak and 1.6 constant... Nn I want to break it, I know I ranted to adapt turbines swear!

mariodarkblue
26-06-2013, 09:12
if you can adapt it electronically, I think it's a good compromise...even if I would also like to 1.7 constant;)

SandroMarciano
26-06-2013, 15:49
if you can set it electronically while remaining under the maximum values that I wrote above I assure you that, as a minimum, we do 100000km. Keep it always constant ? the maximum, in fact, 1.7 bar constant 4500rpm are much more? harmful to 2.0 bar *3200rpm

mikyrace82
26-06-2013, 20:33
it seemed right to me to specify it for the first time...