opinion the map grande punto 75 hp [Archive]

puppypunto

11-06-2013, 23:40

hello friends I would like to start rimapare some of the machines of friends and relatives....and picking up info here and there I have changed the map of my grande punto ? offer to be a guinea pig for various experiments....
I want to ask you your opinion on the work done......and eventualmento appearance suggestions for improvement before loading
thanks in advance...puppypunto

marco

11-06-2013, 23:52

hello pouppypunto we have to work very for my opinion ignition zoned has similar maps are not the same time ingezione busted pressure reil idem will conziglio to work on it gradually, and you have to calculate that these ecu should be change to read. greetings

puppypunto

12-06-2013, 00:00

thanks mark for the reply...that you use for moddare?

SandroMarciano

12-06-2013, 09:38

I'm sorry, but this is not a question of what do you use to moddare, you modified the injection timing for the whole, this is enough to have a smoke... among other things have also changed the axis of a torque limiter... I don't h a lot of sense...

puppypunto

12-06-2013, 12:50

SandroMarciano

12-06-2013, 13:57

I want to understand something....give me a straight on the timing of injection?how should I start?
first of all, you need to understand how to use them the ecu, or that are in function of the pressure of the fuel and of the IQ request. then you go to edit, especially to the highest QI. Then you know that the pressure diesel fuel generally increases with the rpm, so if you want to have more? diesel fuel from the high, you will have to intervene, especially on the high pressure rail. Vice versa that you will want to increase the bass. On that engine, 90% of the performance you can have in ir? derives from the time of injection, the rest you can safely let it ori...

puppypunto

12-06-2013, 22:12

first of all, you need to understand how to use them the ecu, or that are in function of the pressure of the fuel and of the IQ request. then you go to edit, especially to the highest QI. Then you know that the pressure diesel fuel generally increases with the rpm, so if you want to have more? diesel fuel from the high, you will have to intervene, especially on the high pressure rail. Vice versa that you will want to increase the bass. On that engine, 90% of the performance you can have in ir? derives from the time of injection, the rest you can safely let it ori...

thanks to the intervention...in the meantime I had moddato this.....opinions?.....thanks

SandroMarciano

13-06-2013, 11:11

I'm sorry, but we are not there own, why? you have increased the value that was originally 0? then you have changed 3/4 of the map... not you! you first need to figure out where to change! if you upload this map the car will start? to accelerate by itself up to the outside laps... and will continue? until the turn...

puppypunto

23-06-2013, 22:43

new map...I hope there will be....

SandroMarciano

24-06-2013, 09:42

I think you've overdone it, but try it, otherwise you will not realize where...

puppypunto

24-06-2013, 13:47

Help?.......

SandroMarciano

24-06-2013, 14:51

I'm sorry, these units are not able to adjust them at a distance, do not know enough. From the tests I have done I think that the injection times are too long, but you notice that when you try to smoke?, if you have the dpf cos? not the try!

puppypunto

24-06-2013, 15:24

Thanks sandro, the load and the provo.....give me the address of the times of injection....to be sure not to miss the data that the ecm is giving me addresses for a stroll....thank you very much.

SandroMarciano

24-06-2013, 15:40

the injection times are *8ABFA

puppypunto

24-06-2013, 17:37

Thanks to try to provide

ion

24-06-2013, 19:33

Definitely fumer? a lot with this mod, the increments on the timing of the injection are high gi? at low revs/loads, and also other curves do not convince me.
The turbo ? discreetly urged, for example , I would caution seen that the prex salt already? also due to the increase in diesel fuel present.

SandroMarciano

24-06-2013, 20:47

puppypunto

24-06-2013, 21:01

Precisely...the turbo is not ? manageable from the map and the limiter so as to not have pressure surges....if I'm wrong correct me...I speak as a beginner .....inexperienced.

ion

24-06-2013, 22:03

Precisely...the turbo is not ? manageable from the map and the limiter so as to not have pressure surges....if I'm wrong correct me...I speak as a beginner .....inexperienced.

Also that I know the turbo is not rule by the map but gets up anyway with the increase in the diesel fuel. So you have to anyway to bring attention to what is calling for the segnalavo.

audi sp

24-06-2013, 22:25

I on these machines.. touching only the limiters and a little bit of diesel.. go very well, and they consume a lot less.. ( of course the egr closed and fittings no dpf )

angelolsp

24-06-2013, 22:49

Qnt you can take aa on qst car?

puppypunto

24-06-2013, 23:13

About a 15 hp...to be tested at the bench!!!!!

I tried the latest map.....va na crap...smoke at will? tends to affogarsi and jerk in certain situations.....help me

audi sp

24-06-2013, 23:34

starts from 0 ... take one step at a time and try to figure out what you want on the car.. start to see in the grid

puppypunto

25-06-2013, 00:06

The best time of injection?give me a hand....where do I start....helpme!!!!!! :-(

audi sp

25-06-2013, 09:51

starts from 50 of the load and about 3000 rpm.. from a 2 to a maximum of 4 %.. you have to make some tests and see also the other similar maps, etc...
studiaci above

puppypunto

25-06-2013, 12:58

Thanks...I have the pc down tonight as soon as I can fix it, I'll put in the work......

angelolsp

25-06-2013, 15:22

I seem to poki 15cv I think ke on 25 potrebbeeo pull out

msport (exil77grande)

25-06-2013, 16:37

do not take 25cv only of the map,get to 20cv is already a great lens.

angelolsp

25-06-2013, 16:56

map more leakage of the turbine of course mechanically lifted you get there?

puppypunto

26-06-2013, 08:03

We always try to talk about hp maximum security and the cio? leave unchanged the standard? of the engine and the duration of the same.

puppypunto

26-06-2013, 12:19

I start from the 50 to the load from 1700 rpm to climb.....from 4% up to the nassimo of 10%?what do you think?

carbo92

26-06-2013, 12:33

I start from the 50 to the load from 1700 rpm to climb.....from 4% up to the nassimo of 10%?what do you think?

You may also leave from 1500 rpm

puppypunto

26-06-2013, 14:11

Tonight mod the map and the place....in addition to this change what do you advise me to change?

angelolsp

26-06-2013, 20:35

You can anke go more than 10 on iniezone

puppypunto

26-06-2013, 20:45

Okay a 12%-13%?

puppypunto

26-06-2013, 22:42

injection timing modified

ion

27-06-2013, 09:05

Injection with pi values? suitable to avoid smoke abnormal, according to me there are changes too high in the other maps, limiters torque and smoke a turbo etc..etc....

puppypunto

27-06-2013, 21:35

this what do you think?

puppypunto

27-06-2013, 21:42

map of demand on the diesel needs that % ?

angelolsp

28-06-2013, 01:35

because you touched pressure if so and fixed?

angelolsp

28-06-2013, 02:17

I have not touched the map injection because I would like some advice, but the rest can go?

angelolsp

28-06-2013, 18:42

Nothing help then?:-):-)

puppypunto

28-06-2013, 22:18

I have loaded the latest map and the machine ? little reactive almost seems worse than the ori...help meeeeeee!

angelolsp

29-06-2013, 01:58

my you can try?

ion

29-06-2013, 12:46

I have not touched the map injection because I would like some advice, but the rest can go?
It seems to me that the main injection've touched...
For the rest the map soft and limited to a few turns, I don't know how to make but the best thing ? try to realize, the damage does not should do...

I have loaded the latest map and the machine ? little reactive almost seems worse than the ori...help meeeeeee!
Worse than the ori even ?
Perhaps because? some curves have increments without sense, "harmonize" as I said it all in the function of the fuel without too many increments exaggerated.
In some cases I have seen copy some maps from other types of car with the ECU like that (if I remember correctly the Race but I would not say silly things) and I seem to remember that in the very few cars of friends with mjet75hp also I had adopted that technique. Should I try the old files. The car cmq were decidedly more?, with a little bit of smoke under load, but not too much. You have to experiment, since ? your car you're better off...

puppypunto

29-06-2013, 13:25

I'm almost about to give up.....give me info on these addresses?

0903C2

084BE8

08F1CC

08E618

08E638

090626

091D08

08F434

091B44

0920DC

angelolsp

29-06-2013, 14:43

Is that the main l I touched...I have not touched, only the driver says ke injection at part throttle.. and then neanke the rail...

those ke you listed are the addresses ke you to the driver... I do not understand only the 0903c2

instead 0873A2 ?

the 0903c2 is the first of torque limiters...can be kind of a map to the request torque, and fuel...but why there are revolutions in the negative?

puppypunto

30-06-2013, 17:48

guys, forget about the maps that I posted that is not going well....I have tried everything and I don't like how they go.
I'm working on a new one....I confirmed the hints prex rail and lim prex rail and lim prex turbo?thanks

puppypunto

05-07-2013, 14:17

Hello tutti.ho prepared a mappettina that is quite good in recent fumacchia a little.
I would like to try it in the diagnosis and I would like to know running ideal to be complied with on prex, etc...thanks again.