Curiosity A5 3.0Tdi euro 5 dpf (176 kw )

[danny677]

Hi guys,
usually a few remaps on this car I have done after that ? state physically removed the dpf and have come out of animals close to 300 hp
In the near future for? I have to remap a a5 a friend who, at least for a few months and want to leave it mounted to the dpf.
There? that I ask you ? the extent to which increases ( in percentage terms ) do I have to follow on the various items of the ecm tita.. ( press rail, turbo and iniez.zoned ) to avoid that go in the block total for clogging. ? Also in this configuration, the soft can I disable the egr ?
Rule of thumb how much should pull out according to your experience ?
Thank you for your certain and unfailing help :)

[SandroMarciano]

if the car keeps the dpf, the only advice I can give you ? leave the original time of injection. edit only the torque limiter pedal and limiters of diesel. In this way does not alter the a/f ratio, which when drops below 16.5/1 very close to the regenerations. The turbo pressure for the pi? ? high unless the machine suffers from regenerations and frequent.
The rail ? a map that if not for the d? power, but shortens the injection time, for a few tens of bars in the pi? do not fail, even if its modification does not ? essential.
The exclusion egr I do on all the maps, why? the intake manifolds, they get to capacity, with or without a dpf for me it makes no difference...
As power considers to get as with the engine without dpf that you do not smoke,...

[danny677]

Thanks for the information,
then you improve the fruibilit? of the medium and harness a little of the benefits arising from a pair less "entangled" , instead of in terms of hp I do not differ much from the 240 right ?

[SandroMarciano]

I'm sorry but the power where you believe that spade out?
the pair which increases by tapping the pedal-torque limiter of diesel will increase? the q.the. that in turn will increase? torque and power of the engine. Only thing that changes in this way without touching the injection timing does not increase diesel unbeknownst to the ecu, which then keeps active all the strategies for the reduction of smoke, and does not alter the diesel that it uses in regeneration.
If the ori and I'll make you see.

[danny677]

!!
the file I had only read the data area, but on the forum I found it identical to the one that interests me.

[SandroMarciano]

? a version very rough, but I procederei on this road, you will see that the horses come out at will? in spite of the dpf!

[danny677]

Great thanks,
in fact you have touched the limiters in the manual by giving you the opportunity? take a little laps + at the top .
The series of isosceles triangles in the ecm has no driver, certainly for winols but you still are not able to get it then I would certainly work with the blind, or better I would not have intervened.
The other torque limiters represented by the ecm must not be touched or winols not indicates them as the map useful ?

[magi1984]

the isosceles triangles as you call them ? lamappa conversion NM to IQ, that sandro called pedal-torque limiter
given that in the edc 16 and 17, the map of the foot pedal manages the torque and not the quantity? injected, in the electronic control unit c'? need a map conversion that allows you to convert the torque request from the pedal in the deal? fuel injected

[danny677]

Thanks for the elucidation . https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/images/icons/icon14.png

[SandroMarciano]

winols not d? clues with winols you have to do everything to occhiometro in the recognition of maps. Other torque limiters, I've noticed, but ? may be my ignorance as don't chew a lot of edc17. E-mail addresses that I'll tell you if I have them forgotten, deliberately or not.

[danny677]

1C312C + similar to : 1C317E
ecm calls the torque limiter #2

what you have touched you and it stretches over an 8-related and consistent with ecm

[magi1984]

sorry but take a curiosity?, of course, no offense...
you say you have baked beasts from 300cv without the dpf and then you don't even know recognize the maps out of the driver
also from the way you talk it seems to me to realize that you are rather inexperienced, sure that they had 300cv the other a5 that you have changed???

[SandroMarciano]

1C312C + similar to : 1C317E
ecm calls the torque limiter #2

what you have touched you and it stretches over an 8-related and consistent with ecm

I imagined they were... I don't have torque limiters active mode? normal, something like recovery, or otherwise, would be too low to be active...

*magi: 300cv on this machine I don't think that is a big problem, if you look at the injection times are very short, so allow a significant increase in diesel. Air must have in abundance, thanks to cubic capacity, and the turbine is not just small... get us out of a 60ina cv, according to me, not ? difficult...

[danny677]

sorry but take a curiosity?, of course, no offense...
you say you have baked beasts from 300cv without the dpf and then you don't even know recognize the maps out of the driver
also from the way you talk it seems to me to realize that you are rather inexperienced, sure that they had 300cv the other a5 that you have changed???

Whereas, those who offend me ? stinker: and not ? in my case, in the workshop where I work, I'm not concerned absolutely of diesel but tuning lpg/cng; diesel them is my colleague and it also looks good and I, with dignity, 9 times out of 10 I'm in my place to look without asking anything as he does the same with me ( on-the-job work obviously a bit' cos? ).
if I was a scientist, not even opened the post to confront and seek to learn and, perhaps I would not even be writing if not fed only from healthy passion in the field of the 4 wheels.
By "untrained" ( I hope temporary what are still) I for it? also found that a monster diesel sfumacchiante, without prejudice to the electronic controls you want to delete, you'll forgive many of the nonsense and on-the-road wood petrol-powered cars unbelievable.
For the rest, I thank you for the advice you want to give me.

[danny677]

I imagined they were... I don't have torque limiters active mode? normal, something like recovery, or otherwise, would be too low to be active...

*magi: 300cv on this machine I don't think that is a big problem, if you look at the injection times are very short, so allow a significant increase in diesel. Air must have in abundance, thanks to cubic capacity, and the turbine is not just small... get us out of a 60ina cv, according to me, not ? difficult...


I noticed that as low as they are seem + a working strategy to filter clogged that an indication of the normal driving ;)

[magi1984]

in my opinion, a diesel engine sfumacchiante not ? nice, the smoke ? diesel pilot, which could instead be burned with a map pi? adequate, and then to have the best performance

[SandroMarciano]

in my opinion, a diesel engine sfumacchiante not ? nice, the smoke ? diesel pilot, which could instead be burned with a map pi? adequate, and then to have the best performance

a diesel sfumacchiante I agree that it is not nice, but when you ? arrived at the limit of the pressure of the turbine, if you still want the performance increases in the diesel fuel. A diesel engine gets maximum performance at the stechio, but at that afr smoke, ? a matter of fact.

You say, "the smoke ? diesel pilot, which could instead be burned with a map pi? adequate" true, but the map pi? adequate results in turbo pressure to raise, and you know that in modern engines the most? so not the you can? ask...

I say that as long as you can? ask to the turbine is a map without a smoke (which happens easily with the map smokes the original) if you want to go over, first of all, we don't have the dpf, and the only way to increase the performance ? to have smoke...

[dantesfx]

Would emphasize that ? crucial that you do not have the dpf.

[jovandj]

I should also mention that, and better to have the EGR working with the DPF worth the intasamente premature because the gas is not ricircolati, for the talk dirty I know but with the DPF and better to have the EGR, a little but only a little of smoke, however, it does not hurt, if you must fly, you need to remove the DPF