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paolo159
Hi guys,
I had the opportunity today to extract the gold of the car of a friend, always EDC16C39...
I tried to work on it a bit, what do you think?

dvdtuning
Attach the ori would otherwise make it difficult for any response.

paolo159
sorry I know..I thought you have inserted it in the rar... here it is :-)

dvdtuning
05-06-2013, 20:57
The car has dpf true?
In my opinion, with the pedal you left too soon, you can start from the met? map moddare, the torque limiter to be sincere it seems huge for what you're asking, the egr you have not touched, there is a lack torque limiters for gear.
The limiters turbo can you give something more? to be quiet but still could go.

paolo159
for the pedal, maybe you're right, I see how he responds to the car and definitely partir? pi? at the top..
lim torque ? increased to get to 500nm, if you notice I climbed the map IQ as a function of rpm and torque to get to 100mm^3 on the bp 500nm...? exaggerated, according to you, adjust the lim torque that way?

the egr I forgot :-) now the system

lim torque gear already? to 1000 nm

lim turbo them increased even slightly

paolo159
no you do not have dpf if I'm not mistaken..should be euro3

SandroMarciano
no you do not have dpf if I'm not mistaken..should be euro3
edc16c39 is mounted on only €4... but not ? said to have the dpf

paolo159
Sandro I believe that it is one of those versions where the dpf was optional, I do not even know the owner, unfortunately :-) I can just see him in person I ascertain by diagnosis, however.*****and you seem the map?

carbo92
if I can express my opinion, I pedal it will otherwise, without starting the engine is turned off, the rail and the turbo them you will otherwise.

paolo159
Of course you can express your opinion to the contrary, there are opinions and then people :-) I'm here to learn
How would you do it the turbo?

carbo92
Of course you can express your opinion to the contrary, there are opinions and then people :-) I'm here to learn
How would you do it the turbo?

I would give it a catkin in point gradual starting from 100 up to 150 peaks in ir? high

SandroMarciano
*1cf56c c'? an error in the pi? I would add the lambda, apart from this, according to me ? a good map...

ecuboost
*1cf56c c'? an error in the pi? I would add the lambda, apart from this, according to me ? a good map...

that means, I would add the lambda?

SandroMarciano
of course, I meant that with the change to smoke limiters (called in the jargon "lambda") would be great

paolo159
Thanks Sandro for your valuable advice... now I see the error that I've reported.
For the moment I have not seen the car but my friend says he has never noticed regenerations and the booklet does not see indications of the type "fitted with anti-pollution device" so can I assume that it has the dpf.
Also, I said that already? with the map ori, when sinks the throttle, the classical effect of "excess oil" is some smoke, which would be a confirmation in the pi? to say that does not fit dpf...what do you think?

paolo159
1cf56c was left ori true Sandro?

SandroMarciano
1cf56c was left ori true Sandro?

yes, even why? it is not part of the map that you wanted to change

biondo83
In 2007, the fap was an optional extra for the New Bravo. If you decided to mount it (about +600 Euro to be added to the quote), the car was classified as Euro 5, if not Euro 4.

ion
In 2007, the fap was an optional extra for the New Bravo. If you decided to mount it (about +600 Euro to be added to the quote), the car was classified as Euro 5, if not Euro 4.
EURO 5 in 2007 ? Are you sure ? Frankly I doubt it, I've seen several Bravo and Croma with DPF but approved as euro4 also in 2008

SandroMarciano
EURO 5 in 2007 ? Are you sure ? Frankly I doubt it, I've seen several Bravo and Croma with DPF but approved as euro4 also in 2008
if I remember correctly, I also knew this kind of thing, kind of like a promise of approval for €5? not ? never arrived!

giarras
yes, some were sold with the words "legal euro 5" but I don't think anyone did that.

ion
In theory, the EURO 5 are auto APPROVED after September 1, 2009, and SOLD after 1 January 2011.
I risutla that the FIAT is well known for anything long-sighted...) in 2007 had already? EURO 5 vehicles.
Maybe I'm wrong, and ready to change my mind !

SandroMarciano
yes, some were sold with the words "legal euro 5" but I don't think anyone did that.

I remember the complaints on the "Quattroruote" of people who had bought this "optional", and wanted the type-approval €5, but that ? was rifuitata... at The end a €5 ? born this and just home, fiat...


In theory, the EURO 5 are auto APPROVED after September 1, 2009, and SOLD after 1 January 2011.
I risutla that the FIAT is well known for anything long-sighted...) in 2007 had already? EURO 5 vehicles.
Maybe I'm wrong, and ready to change my mind !

My 159 2.0 ? was purchased in February '10 and ? €5... Before you buy it, it seems to me that I tried in October and they were the first versions.

tidus1985
Fiat euro5 only the 1.6 and 2.0, the 1.9 are all euro 4, much and real the that the 159 had removed the 1.9 150 cv since? not validated euro5

ion
Fiat euro5 only the 1.6 and 2.0, the 1.9 are all euro 4, much and real the that the 159 had removed the 1.9 150 cv since? not validated euro5

He was the one that was to me, in fact !

MultiBravo
The 1.6 and 2.0 euro 5 ready meant that the car had to be bought with the dpf (in the case of the 1.6 105hp why? the other had of the series) and then, when the legislation allowed it could be riomologata euro5. We had aggiorare the software of the control unit and redo the test to the engine.

Quattroruote has published an article on a bravo 1.6 120 bought euro4 and converted euro5.. it is Obvious that the change ? for a fee, for? increases the value of the used..

paolo159
Guys I checked and actually the car does not fit the DPF...the old owner ? been crafty and has avoided throwing 600 € :-)