Opinion the Map Focus 1,6 TDCI 90cv

[cinqueturbo]

Hi all!
for those who have a bit of time by myself, I would give a judgment on this map?
I'm ready for any criticism and, above all, the council...;)

[magi1984]

try it...you will not feel a big difference in terms of performance, however, all in all okay.
you touched on the map the right way.
there are still many maps to edit in 2d, type nm on iq, lambda and torque limiters for running, but in a map soft like this that I could define a STEP 1, not ? need to touch them

[cinqueturbo]

try it...you will not feel a big difference in terms of performance, however, all in all okay.
you touched on the map the right way.
there are still many maps to edit in 2d, type nm on iq, lambda and torque limiters for running, but in a map soft like this that I could define a STEP 1, not ? need to touch them

The Great Magi!!! and an honor to have a comment ;)
but according to you, what are we? pulled out in hp?
and can you give me some info on a step2 if not too much to ask?
or where I can find what you need in 2D?
meanwhile, I thank you....

[SandroMarciano]

1CA21C lambda
1cb734 torque limiter
1cde2c, and to follow the torque limiter in a single gear
1E4BDC? a limiter as a function of intake air temperature, you have changed from 65? ... I would, on the contrary
1e8774 and the following, as many believe they are not torque limiters, are the PID controller of the pressure diesel, you will have empty...

I let the time of the original, but I would give increases to the pedal up to 450Nm, torque limiters accordingly, and the map lambda the stoop very much, close to 1000punti (of course, if the car has no fap,but if I'm not mistaken should not mount it to the 90hp)

[magi1984]

cinqueturbo don't exaggerate, I'm not jean todd

let's say that, speaking in terms of %, on the accelerator pedal, you can safely give double the number of increments that have given you.
adapting the course also torque limiters, including torque limiters for gear that are at the address 1cbe2c, I believe that sandro has made an error in typing a letter
currently limit the torque at 2500, the cio? 250nm. edit, based on the maximum value obtained in the maps accelerator pedal
the map lambda you can lower it a hundred points
1e8774 forgive her original
in the rail pressure c'? an error, have increased by 50 points for the cio? of 5bar... according to me you wanted to increase it to 50 bar and the cio? 500 points

[cinqueturbo]

Guys Thanks!!
now I put? straight to work!
with your directions sistemer? the errors on this map stepp1,
and a lighthouse stepp2 to increase a little more?,
the customer may not even want to try a pi? aggressive,
I'll have to check later ;)
Thanks again....

[SandroMarciano]

torque limiters I was wrong to write in, to the address written by the magi, the step 1, that is, the one you posted you will feel as soon as change, I suggest you to try one step more? pushed!

[cinqueturbo]

torque limiters I was wrong to write in, to the address written by the magi, the step 1, that is, the one you posted you will feel as soon as change, I suggest you to try one step more? pushed!

Thanks Sandro!!!
and Still
Thanks Magi!!!
I'm working on, and I have a bit senile with the lim. the couple and the map lambda..
I'm trying to understand something..

[SandroMarciano]

then, in practice, the torque limiters ragionaci like you do with the pedal, or if you want to 300Nm, for example, make sure that you ask for something more? from the pedal, then the limits with the torque limiter, in fact. the maps lamda if you don't have the dpf, I advise you to clear all 1000punti, that I did not smoke even a little bit... in that way...

[cinqueturbo]

then, in practice, the torque limiters ragionaci like you do with the pedal, or if you want to 300Nm, for example, make sure that you ask for something more? from the pedal, then the limits with the torque limiter, in fact. the maps lamda if you don't have the dpf, I advise you to clear all 1000punti, that I did not smoke even a little bit... in that way...

I think I understand the concept..
but problems or to interpret the torque limiters for gear that are out of the driver..
I don't know where to start, I see 7-speed.. and not or understand where the 1 or the Reverse, and what indicate the dec..
or made a screen for you to understand my question...

[SandroMarciano]

on all the edc16 last ? the back, however you can moddare also that ahahaha!

[cinqueturbo]

on all the edc16 last ? the back, however you can moddare also that ahahaha!

Right!!
I'm lost in a pikeman of water!!!!!
if I took an example of another EDC16 that the drivers or maybe I did not inceppavo :mad:
maybe I can even understand the DEC? :confused:
or tried to understand something with winols, but I abandoned it and I have to reinstall it..

[SandroMarciano]

what do you mean by "dec"?

[cinqueturbo]

what do you mean by "dec"?

What do you use to understand what are the values? X-Y-Z-DEC

[magi1984]

DEC ? the value in decimal.
the conversion factor in the torque limiters for all the edc16 ? 0,1
so if in decimal you have 2500 and multiply it for 0.1 get 250, the cio? the value of NM

[cinqueturbo]

DEC ? the value in decimal.
the conversion factor in the torque limiters for all the edc16 ? 0,1
so if in decimal you have 2500 and multiply it for 0.1 get 250, the cio? the value of NM

and for the map lambda?
how do I do if I don't know where? the head and tail?
ZZZAAACCCKKK and via???.... ;)

[magi1984]

if I took an example of another EDC16 that the drivers or maybe I did not inceppavo :mad:


you quoto, cos? understand how to interpret it

[cinqueturbo]

you quoto, cos? understand how to interpret it

You gi? I'm working in that direction....
Of the truth??
not de eloping a laugh? ;)

[SandroMarciano]

for the lambda value multiplied by 0,0145 get the A/F ratio, for which the value of 1000 corresponds to a 14.5 parts of air to 1 fuel.

[cinqueturbo]

Ok!!!
we hope that we have perceived your advice,
what do you think?

[cinqueturbo]

Anyone who gives me some advice or opinion?

[SandroMarciano]

Ok!!!
we hope that we have perceived your advice,
what do you think?
I would take much more? the group pedal - torque limiter and lambda (consider to get to 1000punti, ? a machine with fixed geometry... instead, let the injection times of the original. count also that in this specification the ecu unlike other (group FAL, VAG, etc.) the rail over 1600bar d? diesel... then still may try it, for sure the car will go? best!

[cinqueturbo]

I would take much more? the group pedal - torque limiter and lambda (consider to get to 1000punti, ? a machine with fixed geometry... instead, let the injection times of the original. count also that in this specification the ecu unlike other (group FAL, VAG, etc.) the rail over 1600bar d? diesel... then still may try it, for sure the car will go? best!

Hello Sandro...
Ok or understood that you can? pull much more?, but the maps are ok?
the map lambda the modata in the right way? out of the drivers are not an ace...
and as I said the magi, there are a lot of maps from the modare out of the driver..
the map NM on IQ and 1CB734?
lim. torque x marcie 1E4BDC okay?

[carbo92]

Hello Sandro...
Ok or understood that you can? pull much more?, but the maps are ok?
the map lambda the modata in the right way? out of the drivers are not an ace...
and as I said the magi, there are a lot of maps from the modare out of the driver..
the map NM on IQ and 1CB734?
lim. torque x marcie 1E4BDC okay?

I would say, increase of pi? the foot pedal and lower a little bit the rail 6% ? a little bit too high... even with regard to the turbo to make different increments

[cinqueturbo]

I would say, increase of pi? the foot pedal and lower a little bit the rail 6% ? a little bit too high... even with regard to the turbo to make different increments

hello and thanks carbo..
X the rail pressure 6%. is the equivalent of 870 Bar at 1250 rpm are too many?
the turbo pressure and 2320 -1024 = 1293 here I think I'll stoop as well I do..
to map the foot pedal to 6-23% I can get up to a 30% what do you think?
now I do these steps then place.. for me to have done well..
thanks to all...

[carbo92]

hello and thanks carbo..
X the rail pressure 6%. is the equivalent of 870 Bar at 1250 rpm are too many?
the turbo pressure and 2320 -1024 = 1293 here I think I'll stoop as well I do..
to map the foot pedal to 6-23% I can get up to a 30% what do you think?
now I do these steps then place.. for me to have done well..
thanks to all...
On the pedal I, I would go there more? gradually and even on the 26-27% for? calculates that then you will have to balance the torque, why? so ? low

[carbo92]

Then some of the maps out of the driver I do not understand what you have done....can you summarize the addresses and increments that you gave?

[cinqueturbo]

Then some of the maps out of the driver I do not understand what you have done....can you summarize the addresses and increments that you gave?

Be to this question we would like the Magi, or Sandro...
their in the first step, hand-advised and indicated the addresses out of the driver,
for the increments, or did tests for post and get what you came out. if the offender is on the right road.

[carbo92]

Be to this question we would like the Magi, or Sandro...
their in the first step, hand-advised and indicated the addresses out of the driver,
for the increments, or did tests for post and get what you came out. if the offender is on the right road.

ok as soon as I have time, I see the advice that you have given, so I can understand what you have changed

[SandroMarciano]

avoid the percentage of change, everywhere, on the pedal, for example, sets a goal of, say, 400Nm, the same make on the torque limiters. The rail in a first test you can also leave it original, then you can give 50punti on the last column (and just). The turbo leave what you have done, so that the map commands very little ? fixed geometry, for which ? controlled primarily by the fuel-inject...
The lambda in the area in which you've changed alright, but if you want to pull out some of the former have to be lowered more?.
Instead, the talola conversion torque/IQ I'd ori, we say that ? need to change your password when you exceed 450Nm, which correspond to 100mm^3/s) diesel fuel, and it seems to me already? too much for a 1.6 with a turbine toy...

[cinqueturbo]

avoid the percentage of change, everywhere, on the pedal, for example, sets a goal of, say, 400Nm, the same make on the torque limiters. The rail in a first test you can also leave it original, then you can give 50punti on the last column (and just). The turbo leave what you have done, so that the map commands very little ? fixed geometry, for which ? controlled primarily by the fuel-inject...
The lambda in the area in which you've changed alright, but if you want to pull out some of the former have to be lowered more?.
Instead, the talola conversion torque/IQ I'd ori, we say that ? need to change your password when you exceed 450Nm, which correspond to 100mm^3/s) diesel fuel, and it seems to me already? too much for a 1.6 with a turbine toy...

Now me and a whole lot more? clear!!
Thanks A Lot...

[Cristiano75]

Hello to all.
I have 1 issue with an ecu of this type, I moddato the ecu and the ecu over 51mm3 (about 288 Nm)is not supplying fuel, therefore, the machine comes a little + 110cv instead? the 120cv calculated... I Would like to ask you if, for case, as well as the torque limiter, there are others that block the delivery of the diesel....??? I enclose the map ori and mod in question...

[SandroMarciano]

if I can give you advice changing times, there are torque limiters multiple, single-bit, and beyond that diesel is not me ? managed to send her to, not even to me, I advise you to distort the timing of fuel injection if you want to gather some donkey in the pi?!

[Cristiano75]

the distortion of the times not nn I like.... the bit that you say that may be scattered as I could find them?? There are damos around that could give you 1 hand....??
In fact, the mod that has to have the time taroccati and he must be good cos?, for? me nn like what I have done and I would love to find the key to the problem x to solve this block.... in 2000 to 51 x then get off pertento would think + you get to a bend relief + that a single bit...

[SandroMarciano]

no, they are torque limiters, why? by falsifying the conversion increases the qi

[Cristiano75]

Short ask? the car x try to distort the curves of conversion then you do? you know... there are several of them, how do I know which one to use and which not?
Thanks x for the info...

[SandroMarciano]

Short ask? the car x try to distort the curves of conversion then you do? you know... there are several of them, how do I know which one to use and which not?
Thanks x for the info...

use the first one, with pi values? high and calibrated up to 450Nm, but I warn you not ? the best system, as a minimum, you'll irregularity? on the pedal... I have made at least 20 tests and came to the conclusion that it will go? with the changes to the times.

[cjack]

I, too, had I had did this car, and I had the same problem... in The end I had to change the injection timing for mancanzaa of time to do the tests. If you can work around let us know