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The story of my personal experience made in Germany with the said control unit mounted on a Audi A4 tdi 170 bhp common rail of 2010.
Just got the mount in 30 seconds and try the various steps of the increase in rail pressure that is set using a button on the inside of the controller (0 to 9), I start with the step 7, the graft second, and thrust the throttle, arrived at 3800 rpm it goes into recovery and I do notice a slight improvement in the shot but nothing. I stop and power back up, try the 6, get to 3800, and the power supply is cut as if the audience were in limiter, but does not enter recovery. I try to 5, the same thing, but it does 4000/4100, I try to 4 ditto at 4300/4400. At the end arriving at 3 am, the car pulls well up to 5000 but...pretty much as it was originally. I decide to return the unit to Drekebox explaining that in fact, in my case, it doesn't give any advantage, the company replied that not c'? the problem and return it. The day after I get an idea, and if you find a unit that only handles the pressure of the turbo, via the MAP sensor, in combination with the Drake maybe everything might appear to work (pi? diesel but also pi? the air!). I try to go around the ecu for my car and search and search...I find it in England !. I do a few question to the company and they tell me that they have the special wiring for my car and according to them, in combination with a control unit rail should give good results. I will buy it, after a few days got the package and the weekend immediately after the horsemanship. Has 8 steps (1-8) with the dip switch, I put it on maximum, and I try to set the Drakebox out of 5. Result: very good, the progression ? very sensitive, nothing to do with the first. I try directly 7 excellent, and better still, the power supply is not cut-and-sensibility? on the accelerator ? very different, it seems to kind of have the pedal booster, while before it was laid-back below.
I try to 9 the Drake (the maximum) but it goes into recovery, I try to 8 but size 4400, to put back 7 and it's fine. Now for me the setting ? ok.
Now I just have to try it for good.
msport (exil77grande)
23-05-2013, 23:13
if you did a remapping from people series spendevi less and you more,however, expect you to take action in the discussion of your presentation.
but to buy a serious form that acts on both the parameters, no? mha........
The company that offered me the module map also produces a module that integrates both, but the form, separated have a higher chance? adjustment.
For the question remap, I do not exclude absolutely remap later, just didn't want to do this and I did.
rebirthafterrevenge
08-06-2013, 21:11
I can only say that with a module rail non-branded paid 150 euros I wore my 147 1.9 150 hp 245 km/h (counts kilometers) of course pelava smoke from behind ! unlike the map had less recovery , but the break was so very very much!
motorsport
08-06-2013, 22:10
AZZ then ? worse than a plane jet!!:rolleyes:
who knows? as he pushed the pump rail hahahaha :rolleyes:
msport (exil77grande)
09-06-2013, 10:26
who knows? as he pushed the pump rail hahahaha :rolleyes:
the motto of some:
+ POWER
+ SMOKE
+ CONSUMPTION
- LESS RELIABILITY
you say okay, daniel, at the end everyone chooses the way that pi? convinces him, certain that to fit a module without knowing how much mechanical stress causes and what pressure does work on the components, not ? the maximum of the cunning
I can only say that with a module rail non-branded paid 150 euros I wore my 147 1.9 150 hp 245 km/h (counts kilometers) of course pelava smoke from behind ! unlike the map had less recovery , but the break was so very very much!
Congratulations to the module, and many greetings to the engine, I think a similar speed? (and rpm,...) may reach a few times !
:D
romeo156
10-08-2013, 11:31
hello all, I want to tell my experience with the drakebox 2! as I outlined in my presentation now my alpha has assembled a drakebox 2 and after reading this topic and the one who wrote the friend mazzu, I put my hands and changed it from 5 to 7, for a period of time I went with the 4, but made it a little then I put it to 5 and it remained so for about half a year, the benefits are changed immediately, the car had more determination than before, and the overtaking fast and immediately, certainly there was also a bit of smoke normal thing I guess!? the change will immediately notice does not go into recovery or anything! I'm still trying, but because I decided to do a remapping of the ecu a day, take it off and sell it for a few euros! if someone is interested let me know!!!! the control unit has less than 2 years and it works as it should, then if one is content for the one who makes it and want to save some money in the remap, can assemble and make its own tests. hello
panterargento
10-08-2013, 20:20
who knows? as he pushed the pump rail hahahaha :rolleyes:
Maybe after you have set up a step to the case, make a log with instrumentation and software suitable and understand what is happening...it would be curious, what do you say?
tonyteam
20-08-2013, 17:11
but how do you do that so much false values? the only way ? make a roll with the module attached, and then mapped to the rail and climb up to get to that power.
even if sar? difficult given that in the map if you raise the rail is also to lower injection times...***** uqnue is resizing the whole thing would be an interesting test
The add-on modules, they do no more than to anticipate the injection of the fuel and increase the pressure of the same.
If you crush the hand, you can do damage.
I used a module on gp 1.3 75 cv, performance ok, but the noise to a minimum from the tractor (micro injections ciaoo), and cold, with temperatures below freezing, the car went to 3. Removed everything, diagnosis with multiecuscan and the car ? back to the place.
franco75
26-08-2013, 15:49
When the car goes into recovery with these modules ? why? fails to pursue the rail pressure that has a reading distorted?
These modules increase the flow rate of the diesel with the increase of the pressure in the rail, not damage over the pump to the injectors?
When the car goes into recovery with these modules ? why? fails to pursue the rail pressure that has a reading distorted?
These modules increase the flow rate of the diesel with the increase of the pressure in the rail, not damage over the pump to the injectors?
Yes, in primisi pump and injectors.
Depends on the car, but the pump and injectors are built to withstand certain pressures, if it exceeds the ****lli of the map, the life of the mechanical organs mentioned above drops dramatically.
The same goes for the gearbox and clutch. The control units additional work in terms of performance, but cala reliability?.
Rising with the maps, it also increases the torque, and the transmission ? designed for certain values, the more torque might damage it.
Also for what the car is in recovery concept.
Maybe after you have set up a step to the case, make a log with instrumentation and software suitable and understand what is happening...it would be curious, what do you say?
It would be a good thing, but I believe that the values read by the control unit are the same of those beds with the car original, considernado that the additional control unit bypasses the ecu.
For? you could try, I could do it too, but I don't have + the wiring, i.e. the hooks. The latter is sn broken, where could I find them ??
panterargento
28-08-2013, 12:59
I wouldn't know, maybe I don't sell them separately, so I doubt that you will be able to find them, unless c'? someone that has the module for? don't f? pi? use...
Congratulations to the module, and many greetings to the engine, I think a similar speed? (and rpm,...) may reach a few times !
:D
I felt that to a car bangs? the rail on one form aggiutivo...lol....the news was true
I wouldn't know, maybe I don't sell them separately, so I doubt that you will be able to find them, unless c'? someone that has the module for? don't f? pi? use...
Sar? difficult..
nasone147
28-08-2013, 19:23
only bad experiences with these modules,unless we talk about big brands,500/600 euros of expenditure, however, is not paid back 100%!!
dantesfx
01-09-2013, 18:43
Even with the big brands? I never read comments that are satisfactory, sar? why? in the end, are never brilliant solutions?
Even with the big brands? I never read comments that are satisfactory, sar? why? in the end, are never brilliant solutions?
To make money today if they invent all and more.
These units split the drive.
and welcome to your presentation,thank you.
I would like to see actually how many of them have wrecked really the car with a stick add-on.
Often people speak to heard from the cousin of the brother-in-law of the sister of his friend, which because of the additional control unit, and had the ingrown nail,pesto on the accelerator and boooommmmmmmm.
But on guys we are the goals that the module is not the optimal choice is true, but that face all of these damages is a paradox.
At the bottom of the cans to how intelligent you are able to pass through the limit recovery set in the ecu,
to the contrary of what happens if the map is a dog.
Or do we want to say that all those who have remapped have never broken a turbine, a inieettore etcc. etcc. ???:)
presented.
Virusmoschino
15-11-2013, 18:03
Hello Guys my name is Paul and I'm from Switzerland.
In the past I have made experiences on the Tuning, not only units but also mechanical. I had a Fiat Coup? T20 with over 400cv. I sure have raised a lot of satisfaction but also a lot of money. (I would not do more)
I want to get to the point.
I mounted an additional control unit of the Drakebox 2 on my Bravo 1.6 Mjet 120 hp. Just to take this curiosity of these ecus 100-200€.
The machine responds definitely better (what I wanted) even if the horses that promise does not reach them. According to me, if you do not overdo it with the performance, the so-called box is less than the damage of a mapping. Why? in each tuning to increase the power increases, however, the turbo pressure, fuel injection, etc...
And for each car, the car manufacturers to reduce the power of more than 25%. (Not so for reliability, but for the rules, which must comply with).
And all a question of MONEY!!!!
You do a comparison.
The BMW trade in a 4.4 L Twin-turbo 450cv mounted on various 550i , 650i,
The same Engine with very small changes on the ecu and the exhaust mounts to the M5, M6 560 ps
Then these boxes that are adjustable nn should cause many troubles of the engine, if used with caution.
tecnoecu
15-11-2013, 18:27
dear friends of the forum I doubt there is a: (a ke use of all these facilities, programmers, sw, paid fine of € 150 euros or a little more, and you get these results? 245kmh should I sell the patent in alitalia........ greetings
To let go of a diesel engine, just give it a diesel.
Increase the pressure of the rail and is one of the routes, if you do it via add-on module is not good, if you do it via the map, then the address change ??
To know if the map is done well, you should study and understand.
To know if an add-on module sucks , just ask at the concierge desk who has never taken a driving test.
Stereotypes die hard.
msport (exil77grande)
17-11-2013, 21:30
dear friends of the forum I doubt there is a: (a ke use of all these facilities, programmers, sw, paid fine of € 150 euros or a little more, and you get these results? 245kmh should I sell the patent in alitalia........ greetings
sincerely, your assistance does not really understand, also, because here we are talking about an add-on module in particular.
msport (exil77grande)
17-11-2013, 21:31
To let go of a diesel engine, just give it a diesel.
Increase the pressure of the rail and is one of the routes, if you do it via add-on module is not good, if you do it via the map, then the address change ??
To know if the map is done well, you should study and understand.
To know if an add-on module sucks , just ask at the concierge desk who has never taken a driving test.
Stereotypes die hard.
seen that the references do not read them thank you for your participation and we salute you.
Thanks a lot for all these interesting opinions.
Roberto_Bmw
12-01-2014, 09:48
Another thing, additional forms ? the fact that ? physically visible. In fact, 4 years ago, that I had a bmw E60 sedan, I have checked with the mirror on the motor (and then maybe trying another but ? the only reason I found it myself)
mulazzone
25-03-2014, 08:48
hello hello, I am antonio new writing. I also have the same problem you had you and I'm intrigued ,how did you solved the problem?what is the module that you purchased, I would like to buy I also(I hope that doesn't go against the rules of the site). I would be grateful for your response and then you'll know . thanks
mulazzone
25-03-2014, 11:15
The story of my personal experience made in Germany with the said control unit mounted on a Audi A4 tdi 170 bhp common rail of 2010.
Just got the mount in 30 seconds and try the various steps of the increase in rail pressure that is set using a button on the inside of the controller (0 to 9), I start with the step 7, the graft second, and thrust the throttle, arrived at 3800 rpm it goes into recovery and I do notice a slight improvement in the shot but nothing. I stop and power back up, try the 6, get to 3800, and the power supply is cut as if the audience were in limiter, but does not enter recovery. I try to 5, the same thing, but it does 4000/4100, I try to 4 ditto at 4300/4400. At the end arriving at 3 am, the car pulls well up to 5000 but...pretty much as it was originally. I decide to return the unit to Drekebox explaining that in fact, in my case, it doesn't give any advantage, the company replied that not c'? the problem and return it. The day after I get an idea, and if you find a unit that only handles the pressure of the turbo, via the MAP sensor, in combination with the Drake maybe everything might appear to work (pi? diesel but also pi? the air!). I try to go around the ecu for my car and search and search...I find it in England !. I do a few question to the company and they tell me that they have the special wiring for my car and according to them, in combination with a control unit rail should give good results. I will buy it, after a few days got the package and the weekend immediately after the horsemanship. Has 8 steps (1-8) with the dip switch, I put it on maximum, and I try to set the Drakebox out of 5. Result: very good, the progression ? very sensitive, nothing to do with the first. I try directly 7 excellent, and better still, the power supply is not cut-and-sensibility? on the accelerator ? very different, it seems to kind of have the pedal booster, while before it was laid-back below.
I try to 9 the Drake (the maximum) but it goes into recovery, I try to 8 but size 4400, to put back 7 and it's fine. Now for me the setting ? ok.
Now I just have to try it for good.
ciaosono antonio de liso from naples I have the same problem you had that you rev up with the drake turns on me the light of the glow plugs, and then goes into error turn off and power back up the framework everything is ok but if I pull it ripresenta. could you tell me from which site you bought the other ecu and how it is called? this is because those of drake I have never responded except that when I purchased the selected I would be really grateful ,I would not have wasted 100 euro avail. thank you in advance and I look forward to your prompt response . thanks and regards atuuti members
msport (exil77grande)
25-03-2014, 23:14
x, the user mulazzone,please read the rules and introduce yourself in the appropriate section before entering the house of others, and ask questions,I thank you in advance.
mulazzone
26-03-2014, 07:54
hello, I apologize if I seemed to not really relevant to the rules I want to introduce myself but I've tried on this site are not able to find the section where a new member may introducing himself. I would need help as this is the first time that I subscribe to a forum and a site like this (very interesting) . thanks for your help
msport (exil77grande)
30-03-2014, 20:39
hello, I apologize if I seemed to not really relevant to the rules I want to introduce myself but I've tried on this site are not able to find the section where a new member may introducing himself. I would need help as this is the first time that I subscribe to a forum and a site like this (very interesting) . thanks for your help
if you go on the main page, find the section presentations,inside then there are the various discussions that have been opened by the users,in the top left, you will see the icon to open a new discussion, and so you can do the whole thing.
I watched him to the maximum on the c3, however, gave problems
it was built in the same company drake box
I don't remember the name
besides the fact that this discussion is dated.. the form seems to me really a joke.. in addition to the factor of switching that can help in some cases (audit etc..) for the rest a nice map, I prefer!
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