Info panda 4x4

[blackwolf76]

I don't know if this ? the right section, and even if the kind of question ? that is relevant to the forum? we feel the same.

I have a panda cross 4x4 2005 75hp, which practically has lost performance and after having made a lot of tests don't I come to****. I have changed mass air flow sensor, egr, turbo pressure sensor, removed the catalyst and I can't remember + what, but unfortunately it does not wake up from the torpor in which ? fall.

It comes naturally to me at this point indict the control unit, which of course does not detect any error in diagnosis, but it may be that you have sputtanato some value in the flash and the car does not work properly??

[msport (exil77grande)]

I believe the account.

[giarras]

I don't know if this ? the right section, and even if the kind of question ? that is relevant to the forum? we feel the same.

I have a panda cross 4x4 2005 75hp, which practically has lost performance and after having made a lot of tests don't I come to****. I have changed mass air flow sensor, egr, turbo pressure sensor, removed the catalyst and I can't remember + what, but unfortunately it does not wake up from the torpor in which ? fall.

It comes naturally to me at this point indict the control unit, which of course does not detect any error in diagnosis, but it may be that you have sputtanato some value in the flash and the car does not work properly??


instead, it might not be your feeling? ? happened to my daughter alfa159 150cv after some time says to me, dad? this car has some problem, do a diagnosis check some things but I do not feel anything abnormal, then the defappo and rimappo, you pap? ? a bomb,after a few months I repeated again that the machine is unable to walk more?.,then rimappo again a little more, but this time the roller and I have the chart and I don't say anything to my daughter, two week f? same story reel of the new power and performance identical to the first, sosa happens??? that was abbituata and the initial feeling was gone, as to every thing there is abbitua to the news.
think may have happened to you!

[magi1984]

but there has the fap that panda?

[dvdtuning]

It is an effect of the habit...it could also be due to some mechanical part but ? difficult.

[magi1984]

I don't think that the panda is blackwolf, but some of his customer to the repair shop.then the effect of the habit blackwolf is not allowed? get it on that machine

[saivivere]

But how many miles has this panda?

[blackwolf76]

Excuse me if I have not answered before...

In practice the car ? my client's and not mine, therefore, be ruled out a priori the question of the feeling given that I feel many of these cars and I know how to behave, at least ****llo performance.
As km is not putting very well, he has about 200,000 on the rump,? to ****llo engine is fine as the ? been done regularly due to maintenance, including deployment (which is subject to wear and tear on these cars).

Did not Fap and all of us? that could be it I changed it with test material recovered in the workshop. Only thing that I have not changed ? the regulator of pressure of fuel, if he were the guilty...

Not the case of the secure sensation as if attacking the air conditioning is struggling to make it up laps, especially to a minimum, and the highway is hard manage to reach the 120KMh.
A little bit of improvement I found by disconnecting the outlet of the mass air flow sensor, in the event thinking it was a problem of contacts I have also changed the pin of the same (new) but nothing that... the usual situation.

[magi1984]

off the plugs of the 4 injectors,and remove the plug of the pressure regulator of the pump.go with the bosch in the parameters and select pressure diesel. Do the start and see the pressure with injectors and regulator disconnected.if the pump ? ok I'll throw in about 200 bar related,if you're 70 or 80 leak check by a pompista

[blackwolf76]

If ? this is the prob I have a spare good recovered from a broken engine. Even if you do not believe what is given that the engine runs like a clock, in the case of a defective pump usually I leave...

[blackwolf76]

I downloaded the map with my galletto clone from 20 euro...:cool: waiting for me the arrival of the mpps, so that you may give him a look. Apart from that I don't know needless if the file ? corrupted or intact, since that has put us almost 5 minutes to download it to your pc. At this point ? the only thing that remains.

[frantik3]

I would like to help you but I can't download it I still have a few messages

[pinotec]

see who you and downloaded to the eeprom :)
retry....do the ecu id select flash read more... (about 45min if I remember well)

[giarras]

I would like to help you but I can't download it I still have a few messages

let frantik3,the file is not ? good 64kb

[frantik3]

give me the id ecu I would not be in the can line and not the read never

[giarras]

I find the file of the ecu,but you can always try and enter from the ecu that we find the file ori so the rewrite and possibly other circles

[blackwolf76]

see who you and downloaded to the eeprom :)
retry....do the ecu id select flash read more... (about 45min if I remember well)

as I imagined... I combined a casino in the process of reading, I have a interface that is not worth anything, and a pc with the admonition half broken that it is not seen...

[pinotec]

no excuse.. I said bullshit I.. the file and right..but' bed and table... you have to put the check mark on the whole to read it all
but it's good enough bed in the grid.. the maps are the same.
mea culpa

[giarras]

as I imagined... I combined a casino in the process of reading, I have a interface that is not worth anything, and a pc with the admonition half broken that it is not seen...

remember that if you find the file ori, and you have to write with mpps have to cut the file to post it before writing, and eventually we give you a hand

[blackwolf76]

remember that if you find the file ori, and you have to write with mpps have to cut the file to post it before writing, and eventually we give you a hand

no no... for the moment, I don't write anything. And' just to see if the problem ? due to the ecu or if it depends on something that escapes me.

[frantik3]

according to me, 75hp with gallo, 20 euro is not the laws in the 70s but the 75 and can line

[giarras]

no no... for the moment, I don't write anything. And' just to see if the problem ? due to the ecu or if it depends on something that escapes me.

as you say, you changed to 1/2 the world, but you managed well the mechanical parts maybe starting to control the compression and maybe other mechanical parts?

[giarras]

according to me, 75hp with gallo, 20 euro is not the laws in the 70s but the 75 and can line

I never dared with cock from 20 euro but I think you're right maybe!!the 70 but I don't think 75

[blackwolf76]

as you say, you changed to 1/2 the world, but you managed well the mechanical parts maybe starting to control the compression and maybe other mechanical parts?



Cmq ? a 70cv, I was wrong to bring back the info. From titanium I from these data on the file that I posted:


Marelli
Multijet
MJD6JFHW02A
New Panda/Lancia Y/Point/Idea 1.3 JTD 70cv C-CAN EOBD
Num SW: 1092S464
Dis FIAT: 55180280
------------------------------
Size: 65536 = 0x10000
Cks = 0x39E985

[saivivere]

the 6jf is not the laws with the cock it takes a minimum of a mpps ? in the can, with the read and the write.

[frantik3]

the exact line can

[blackwolf76]

I reiterate that I am not an expert in the field, but then the cock thing I have read in that file?? The identification data of the map there are...

[frantik3]

read you a part of the file, send me the file in pm or in **** and I'll tell you what to read and place, maybe some photos if I can


frantik3*************

[blackwolf76]

read you a part of the file, send me the file in pm or in **** and I'll tell you what to read and place, maybe some photos if I can


frantik3*************

done... msg sent.

[frantik3]

ok now I see, and I'll show you if I can post photos

[saivivere]

and how did he read it? perhaps because? the panda has both the can line and k-line?

[blackwolf76]

For completeness of info on the map I put it online:

http://www.sendspace*****/files/n6nlf8

[frantik3]

read the file , read only the partial zone as all of the rooster 1260 or earlier, and in line k as the MJD6F are in the can, you can

[saivivere]

the file ? 64kb and then not ? a full read of the flash, it should only be the tables.

[frantik3]

and I can also say that the file ? completely original

[frantik3]

I can not insert the file, and blackwolf76 I sent you a **** if you can insert it you the file and full bed

[giarras]

the file ? 64kb and then not ? a full read of the flash, it should only be the tables.

it is completely original, I agree with fratik3 , if you need the whole I think there is already? in the data bank.


https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?190-New-Panda

[blackwolf76]

Thanks frantik,
the file I below.

So in theory with the 1260 I could also upload them?? This that you sent me ? a your gold that you had backup??

[frantik3]

it is completely original, I agree with fratik3 , if you need the whole I think there is already? in the data bank.


https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?190-New-Panda


Frantik no fratik anyway, thank you and the whole had not seen him and I have sent since I can't place it

[frantik3]

many of the 1260 have had problems, however, and read the whole, and you should not have problems in the case then you should use the bdm

[giarras]

Frantik no fratik anyway, thank you and the whole had not seen him and I have sent since I can't place it
oh! sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't want to mangle your nickname and was just a typo.

[blackwolf76]

many of the 1260 have had problems, however, and read the whole, and you should not have problems in the case then you should use the bdm

I know that aspect of the mpps, should get between tomorrow or the day after tomorrow..

Maybe combine them in some other casino, and then I'll beat again +.

[saivivere]

do not write it with the cock, otherwise you risk locking it, waiting for the arrival of the mpps that ? much more? reliable.

[giarras]

I know that aspect of the mpps, should get between tomorrow or the day after tomorrow..

Maybe combine them in some other casino, and then I'll beat again +.

if you make use of the various measures relating to the tansioni car pc, you will see that casini nn do but then there is always the holy bdm

[saivivere]

is the bdm is able to retrieve it easily but some with galletto have written others, however, have blocked, even having taken all the necessary precautions, then I would expect mpps, and I have written and read without problems.

[blackwolf76]

[saivivere]

then wait for the arrival of the mpps and go quiet ;)

[blackwolf76]

the mpps me ? come, I await only the customer that you bring me the car.

[frantik3]

ok keep us updated

[msport (exil77grande)]

do so,being the 70cv you can read/write and then get mpps that should take you out of a file 448kb modify it and re-enter,if you can't write to mail file ori and mod here that I'll give you a job in hexadecimal to resolve the problem that is known about these types of ecu.

[blackwolf76]

do so,being the 70cv you can read/write and then get mpps that should take you out of a file 448kb modify it and re-enter,if you can't write to mail file ori and mod here that I'll give you a job in hexadecimal to resolve the problem that is known about these types of ecu.


Now I incuriosisci...

[saivivere]

it has intrigued me, I didn't know that there were problems loading the files in these ecu, up to now the ones I have written, they have given me no problem.

[blackwolf76]

it has intrigued me, I didn't know that there were problems loading the files in these ecu, up to now the ones I have written, they have given me no problem.

I don't think the problems of which you speak, msport refer to the procedures we loading, but rather to the type of ecu and mapping.

[msport (exil77grande)]

I don't think the problems of which you speak, msport refer to the procedures we loading, but rather to the type of ecu and mapping.

in practice, many of my customers on-line and it came with mpps reading the file,editing it and then rewrite it gave the error and not the he wrote, " we then realized that many people who had this problem was the code control unit 01a, and the file 02a or vice versa,by placing the code 01a-to-02a or vice versa in hexadecimal the scrittra went to a good end.

[blackwolf76]

Finally I managed to download the complete map with the mpps:

[msport (exil77grande)]

[QUOTE=blackwolf76;2676]Finally I managed to download the complete map with the mpps:


kindly remove the link and insert it as an attachment.

[blackwolf76]

kindly remove the link and insert it as an attachment.

the fact.....

[msport (exil77grande)]

the fact.....

thanks,however the file has the right size and is complete then you can proceed safely.

[blackwolf76]

thanks,however the file has the right size and is complete then you can proceed safely.

In practice, the problem is not ? on the map... if I understand.

[magi1984]

you did that test that I told you at the beginning of the discussion of the measurement rail pressure?

[blackwolf76]

you did that test that I told you at the beginning of the discussion of the measurement rail pressure?

I changed the map with the one that I have passed you with the egr removed, I cleaned up manually, and I changed the high pressure pump... now it seems to go well, finally, even if I get the error egr diagnosis, although do not turn on any light.

[magi1984]

it could be normal...
the position of the egr valve ? stuck at 0% or still working?

[blackwolf76]

it could be normal...
the position of the egr valve ? stuck at 0% or still working?

I honestly do not know, the customer ? returned today and I was messed up... I have not been able to verify. Anyway, the valve I clean and should be safe to zero, it gives an error in diagnosis, and not me, does it cancel? the light does not turn on immediately, but after traveling a bit.

[mirks]

the light, I believe, does not turn on immediately, because before you turn on the light, the error must occur several times, after which the controller validation is that the error ? this really exists, and then turns on the malfunction indicator light engine

[blackwolf76]

the light, I believe, does not turn on immediately, because before you turn on the light, the error must occur several times, after which the controller validation is that the error ? this really exists, and then turns on the malfunction indicator light engine

Excuse me if I have not updated...
In practice, the lamp is lit why? it was broken the tab on the plug the egr, and then it was unplugged the connector and the ecu detected the anomaly. Restored everything now works perfectly performance.