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emilground
27-04-2013, 13:51
Hi guys, today I read with fgtech v53 a musa 1.3 90hp and the generated file ? 2.5 mb that the ecm does not recognize (? gi? mapped the drive but it's not okay, it only consumes as much).
Here on the forum, I found the file to 2mb, which is regularly recognized by the ecm. The problem ? that I don't know if I can write to the file found here 2mb with the fgtech seen me has returned a 2.5..
evidently also read the micro and assembled everything in a single file. In reading I have no chance? to set which type do, if it is complete or not.
Then I was curious about also compare the file is 2.5 mb ( so that sucks to the map ? was made why? the car range with a lot of moderation seems to face 15 km/l !! with the 2-mb (or 1 mb) . Possibly c'? way to cut it in the correct way ?
This damn fgtech always makes me strange file.. type on the 500 abarth where legendaryslave gave me the info to cut it in the correct way.
now I'm trying to read it with MPPS v5 that recognizes the ecu and is proceeding with the reading, cos? maybe will get? the correct file to be cut and written to 1 mb
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 14:18
-on the ecu, K, can be cut to size to 1mb, and write with mpps, this operation ? valid only for the ecu on the CAN
-if you read with fg2, you have to write 2.5 mb with fg2
-you can not write 2 mb with fg2 why? in K need the mpc 512 kb as the kess...then 2.5 mb as you read
hello I would make a nice backup in the bdm to avoid problems..
emilground
27-04-2013, 14:29
I just finished reading with the MPPS V5 and file ? 448kb, then it's not okay because? ? 90hp and not 70.
Practically I have to write to the file, 2.5 mb..? since the car already? remapped I would need the original file. up to now only 2mb I found.
These are the data:
MJD6F3HW03T 3056M350 51784559
Someone has a file ori 2.5 mb bed with fgtech cos? to compare it with the one read from the drive?
Possibly next week user? the BDM
Backgroop
27-04-2013, 15:37
hello e-mail the file, 2.5 mb let's see if we can help..
emilground
27-04-2013, 15:59
Here is the file that is read by 2.5 mb
leandro89
27-04-2013, 16:20
but this ? the virtual read, how long did it take you to read?
emilground
27-04-2013, 16:25
No No ? virtual reading. It took about 80 minutes
cicciogsr
27-04-2013, 16:41
read and write to the same muse for? with hw and sw is different, with rooster v2 I confirm that I read 80 min and write 40 min..
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 17:04
but this ? the virtual read, how long did it take you to read?
on ecu mjet+ K not c ? the virtual read-only in the CAN
Alfa159 q4
27-04-2013, 17:19
If you find a file that is 2mb of the same car, you can compare it with your 2d.
The areas of the maps in the main you will find easily even without the drivers, you just have to align the 2 files
emilground
27-04-2013, 17:24
Well it takes quite a little to align them, provided that it does not change anything in the middle. However, find a file by 2, 5 mb would be better
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 17:34
if you want to use ecm just that separates the mpc from the flash, with a hex editor size and save the file by selecting from address 0 to address 7FFFF, cos? you are left with just the flash 2mb
emilground
27-04-2013, 17:42
Well pi? that another separate file why? if I can't find a file ori 2.5 mb, I can't compare it to the 2 mb that I have to see that they made. Then maybe join the file that I edit to the piece you cut earlier
cicciogsr
27-04-2013, 17:47
you can confrantare with 2mb and overlap them...and put ori the areas that interest you and then modify and write to the file rebuilt the thing ? feasible..or write the file to 2mb with kess but you have to have the mpc that will surely find
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 17:59
Well pi? that another separate file why? if I can't find a file ori 2.5 mb, I can't compare it to the 2 mb that I have to see that they made. Then maybe join the file that I edit to the piece you cut earlier
you can send me your reading via ****? I can not see it here
zippa and sends .................
emilground
27-04-2013, 18:14
you can send me your reading via ****? I can not see it here
of course, I immediately
msport (exil77grande)
27-04-2013, 18:45
you can send me your reading via ****? I can not see it here
zippa and sends .................
saw that you are a person precise, I think you've given a look at our regulation otherwise, I invite you to do so.
msport (exil77grande)
27-04-2013, 18:47
of course, I immediately
I'll note that you've just violated the rules, and you remember that for a similar action, I banned a user,here we are many and I believe that everyone has a say, and not a little,I also add an on-line client that he had read in a file of a 1.3mjet 90hp 2.5m has accidentally written to a file of the same but of 2m that success and then for me to go quiet in the event of problems you should have a backup and resume.
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 19:36
of course, I immediately
your file ? the original!
emilground
27-04-2013, 19:41
I'll note that you've just violated the rules, and you remember that for a similar action, I banned a user,here we are many and I believe that everyone has a say, and not a little,I also add an on-line client that he had read in a file of a 1.3mjet 90hp 2.5m has accidentally written to a file of the same but of 2m that success and then for me to go quiet in the event of problems you should have a backup and resume.
I thought not to create problems ? was very kind carmageddon, as the rest of all. However, following his advice to separate the mpc from the map I was able to verify that the file ? the original, and then to the owner of the car only gave it a rip-off. After having divided and mapped to the files I have gathered and controlled, and ? aligned perfectly. Now ? of new 2, 5 mb, and during the week I try to upload it
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 19:42
saw that you are a person precise, I think you've given a look at our regulation otherwise, I invite you to do so.
no offense, but with the rules chosen by you ? forced to give a hand in this way or not to give a hand
emilground
27-04-2013, 19:46
your file ? the original!
Yes I saw. What a bummer my friend! Now I do not want to be in the shoes of the person who has cheated since it will see? very soon
msport (exil77grande)
27-04-2013, 20:22
no offense, but with the rules chosen by you ? forced to give a hand in this way or not to give a hand
we have our ideas and then I ask you to set, therefore in order not to incur in calls to official as I just did with emilground,however I also in the past I have had to adapt elsewhere in the rules that I piacevono don't you think?
carmageddon
27-04-2013, 20:47
of course, I ruler a result, the quiet...to the speech of us? you spent elsewhere we would have to talk a lot and I think you should make up its mind on the why? c those were the rules...it's just that if I open my mouth then snaps the censorship in the name of respect for the forum, etc etc etc...be calm that I know make me the facts of my own without bothering anyone!
msport (exil77grande)
27-04-2013, 23:40
perfect then we get along well because here I gave you the welcome without problems as well as all those who come from the same place,good continuation.
emilground
04-05-2013, 19:41
Writing to the file is 2.5 mb made today in the afternoon and went to a good end. the time taken for writing ? was 38 minutes.
Thanks for the support !
I read the post as short or it I should write one of these ecu I wanted some advice from the experts ? secure to write with rooster v2, or adopt the system to write with mpps with split file by 1mb......
carmageddon
04-05-2013, 22:20
read the message number #2
emilground
04-05-2013, 22:42
well the rooster ? tried and tested on these ecu's. I have not yet tried on 8df in the serial.. but I think it's the same one seen that ? in the list ( in v53)
if you want to use ecm just that separates the mpc from the flash, with a hex editor size and save the file by selecting from address 0 to address 7FFFF, cos? you are left with just the flash 2mb
I tried with a reading system is perfect thanks for sharing....
hi raga just made two y 75hp with exact reading 2.560 kb read 80m confirm and write in the 40m ...the only thing that tita there sn drivers just look and go easy,,,,....good job I'm sorry for you that do not have the gold you need....
I also read in 80 minutes, but before writing I prefer to cut the file, and see with titanium if the map ? gold writing I have yet to try for? seen the positive results I try with rooster v2 clone....
I just finished reading with the MPPS V5 and file ? 448kb, then it's not okay because? ? 90hp and not 70.
Practically I have to write to the file, 2.5 mb..? since the car already? remapped I would need the original file. up to now only 2mb I found.
These are the data:
MJD6F3HW03T 3056M350 51784559
Someone has a file ori 2.5 mb bed with fgtech cos? to compare it with the one read from the drive?
Possibly next week user? the BDM
read file with gallov2 v51 size 2.5 mb
sportknight
05-05-2013, 13:08
sorry, but the 90 is not virtual??
emilground
05-05-2013, 13:55
the virtual reading ? on the point, and the idea seems to me. As said carmageddon on the muse in K is the complete reading
cinqueturbo
05-05-2013, 14:09
Hello, but reading to you is correct?
why? although cutting to 2m at the address 1FFFFF is not recognized,
but even s? I select the driver manually,
I think there is a hitch! no?
emilground
05-05-2013, 14:18
if you talk about the reading from 2.5 mb to bring it to 2mb, and then it to be recognized by the ecm I used WinHex to remove the first 512kb . then I deleted from 0 to 7FFFF and saved the file which becomes 2 mb. ecmq in this case recognizes him.
then once changed, I put the 512kb cut above, and once loaded on the car ? everything went ok
maybe something wrong with this ? the file cut reading rooster v2 2.5 mb open it with titanium and see that you charge the driver....
guys but then the cock the law in addition to the flash and also the other parts of the ecu? "do not take me for an idiot, heheheheh" I just try to understand
cinqueturbo
05-05-2013, 14:35
maybe something wrong with this ? the file cut reading rooster v2 2.5 mb open it with titanium and see that you charge the driver....
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OK sno74 your file is fine,
but for example if I'm cutting with the ecm from 000000 to 1FFFFF is not correct?
ecm is not doing his job, or I'm not able to use the cut and paste?
emilground
05-05-2013, 14:51
no, if cuts to 1fffff not good why? cos? doing this will not delete the part of the micro-bens? the final part of the flash. the micro are the first 512kb, so you have to use an editor of type winhex and cut from 0 to 7FFFF
taglito with hex mode ? just cut out the first piece you have left the map with hex ti is pi? easy to see what you're cutting.....
cinqueturbo
05-05-2013, 15:25
Very good!!
you never stop learning!! Thanks...
or downloaded the portable version of WINHEX and valid as the one with the installation?
emilground
05-05-2013, 15:27
Very good!!
you never stop learning!! Thanks...
or downloaded the portable version of WINHEX and valid as the one with the installation?
well depends..
if ? full, whether ? demo is not good why? processes files of a smaller size if I'm not mistaken
cinqueturbo
05-05-2013, 15:49
well depends..
if ? full, whether ? demo is not good why? processes files of a smaller size if I'm not mistaken
All ok file recognized great edit, thanks for the tip!!!...
emilground
05-05-2013, 16:00
please :)
? a good thing to share information, at least you should be on the safe side and not risk !
jared_poe
16-05-2013, 19:55
Yes I saw. What a bummer my friend! Now I do not want to be in the shoes of the person who has cheated since it will see? very soon
Sorry but could it be that, in theory, your friend went to the dealer and they updated the ecu back ori?
guys but I did not understand. The file is 2.5 mb of the lancia musa bed with gallo 2 to be able to be modified or processed with time for the EGR, it must be cut first? Or the two programs recognize him quietly? The part to be cut as I understand they are the first 512kb of that? from 0 to 7FFF. Right?
emilground
22-05-2013, 19:09
I believe that it is necessary to cut the first 512kb and then edit the file to 2mb with time and then recompose it to 2.5 mb. However, trying to use time on the file is 2.5 mb and controls in 2D if performed correctly, the closure, but I guess not.
guys but I did not understand. The file is 2.5 mb of the lancia musa bed with gallo 2 to be able to be modified or processed with time for the EGR, it must be cut first? Or the two programs recognize him quietly? The part to be cut as I understand they are the first 512kb of that? from 0 to 7FFF. Right?
who can help me to cut and paste the first to write.... apparently it takes winhex but I can...
given that I have already? also the split file but can I join directly with the ecm (concatenate files) ???
why cut the file with what you have to write it? write it in the soft. you have read.
I have to cut to edit it with the ecm and then add the first to write with the cock that I have read 2,50...
and if I was with mag pro giving him mpc that I have separated???
so to recap I have read with cock and gave me a file from 2.50
now I also recovered the files from the 2 with mpc separate...
I wanted to help around the winhex or was wondering if it was possible to write with mag pro
and if I was with mag pro giving him mpc that I have separated???
But... I did not understand one thing... You have a bed with a cock..... Why? now you want to write with magpro? You really want to complicate your life?
But... I did not understand one thing... You have a bed with a cock..... Why? now you want to write with magpro? You really want to complicate your life?
Here is the file that is read with the cock, only that the ecm does not make me change how I do
But the file is divided, I can always write with the cock as
I later changed it to join
once cut to 2 mega change with the ecm and to write it with the galletto 2 you have to bring back to 2.5
I later changed it to join
You have to join
once cut to 2 mega change with the ecm and to write it with the galletto 2 you have to bring back to 2.5
But the file that you gave me ? one only as a
isco
guys we are making confusion....
I have to simply merge the file moddato with the mpc to be able to write with cock...
otherwise I am forced to write it with mag pro that asks me for the file separately...
You have to combine it with winhex
You have to combine it with winhex
I can? explain how to combine them because I have tried but have not succeeded
postami the file that you join
postami the file that you join
And only x understand how to cut and paste at any time x change a few tricks
then I was able to cut and then paste the file...
now I have the moddato 2.5
but comparing the ori 2.5 with the mod 2.5 in the ecm 2d I see that there are diff negative at the beginning of the file
everything is ok instead of the curves touch...
someone enlighten me...
written with Magpro with mpc tt ok
msport (exil77grande)
01-06-2013, 09:50
postami the file that you join
polini not asking the jelly is ready, but asks if the explain in detail how to do and it seems to me also correct.
msport (exil77grande)
01-06-2013, 09:50
And only x understand how to cut and paste at any time x change a few tricks
however, I don't remember where but if you use the search, there should be the procedure already described.
polini not asking the jelly is ready, but asks if the explain in detail how to do and it seems to me also correct.
thanks a thousand x the answer here seem to me to be military information too many empty words one tries explanations x solutions
but what military information...............................sometimes you before to make it a thing not to explain it...................
and then just a bit of intuition..............
msport (exil77grande)
01-06-2013, 16:19
but what military information...............................sometimes you before to make it a thing not to explain it...................
and then just a bit of intuition..............
then the next time I have to do it write here and wait for you,however we're waiting for your mini guide.
but what military information...............................sometimes you before to make it a thing not to explain it...................
and then just a bit of intuition..............
but my request was simply an explanation is not the same solution to the problem
anyway thanks
then the next time I have to do it write here and wait for you,however we're waiting for your mini guide.
I, and I look forward
then the next time I have to do it write here and wait for you,however we're waiting for your mini guide.
not ? that you have to wait for me ..........it is clear why? I don't consider myself a genius,but I just wanted to make myself useful............
msport (exil77grande)
01-06-2013, 17:47
not ? that you have to wait for me ..........it is clear why? I don't consider myself a genius,but I just wanted to make myself useful............
in fact, you have been most helpful and now you're just asking to write the exact steps so be it polini in the future, other users can benefit from this,I thank you in advance.
cicciogsr
01-06-2013, 18:47
sorry, but to mod the file to 2.5 mb without cutting anything, I first tried the file from 2 mb, and I changed quietly then I aligned with the 2.5 mb, and I transferred the increases in the cos? does not create problems for...
sorry, but to mod the file to 2.5 mb without cutting anything, I first tried the file from 2 mb, and I changed quietly then I aligned with the 2.5 mb, and I transferred the increases in the cos? does not create problems for...
but if you do not find what 2 you're forced to cut
Here is the guide:
-open winhex;
-upload the file from 2.5 mega;
-edit;
-define the block and enter the start 0 and end 7FFFF and give ok;
-edit;
-cut-and -? cut a 2-mega
cicciogsr
01-06-2013, 18:58
not difficult to find
cicciogsr
01-06-2013, 19:10
Here is the guide:
-open winhex;
-upload the file from 2.5 mega;
-edit;
-define the block and enter the start 0 and end 7FFFF and give ok;
-edit;
-cut-and -? cut a 2-mega
bravissimo cos? if you do not find the golds you can do it yourself
once moddato with the ecm to bring it back to 2.5, you need to load the two files ori(2.5) and mod(2),cut the part from 0 to 7FFFF from the ori and paste it on the mod file always defining the block from 0 to 7FFFF and save it.
All clear?
cicciogsr
01-06-2013, 19:43
I once cut a 2-mb the you will then align with the one that is 2.5 mb and I paste the increments on the bed, 2.5-and without having to paste pieces of the file in it.. then it will go? written
I once cut a 2-mb the you will then align with the one that is 2.5 mb and I paste the increments on the bed, 2.5-and without having to paste pieces of the file in it.. then it will go? written
ok another valid solution
motorsport
01-06-2013, 21:39
sorry, but to mod the file to 2.5 mb without cutting anything, I first tried the file from 2 mb, and I changed quietly then I aligned with the 2.5 mb, and I transferred the increases in the cos? does not create problems for...
ciccio, according to me, if you upload the file, 2.5 mb in titan and steps to 2d, who knows the curves as all the mjt can you? mod easily without having to cut and paste anything,even if it cuts loading the flasks in titan from a few info. 3 lim pair early prov. turbo pressure (2) there are still a lot of curves outside drv....of course, then if you need to check the file if moddato then you cut it to 2mb for a comparison, or if it is recognized by titan...
Here is the guide:
-open winhex;
-upload the file from 2.5 mega;
-edit;
-define the block and enter the start 0 and end 7FFFF and give ok;
-edit;
-cut-and -? cut a 2-mega
this is what I wanted to know how to explanation
many thanks
cicciogsr
02-06-2013, 01:28
ciccio, according to me, if you upload the file, 2.5 mb in titan and steps to 2d, who knows the curves as all the mjt can you? mod easily without having to cut and paste anything,even if it cuts loading the flasks in titan from a few info. 3 lim pair early prov. turbo pressure (2) there are still a lot of curves outside drv....of course, then if you need to check the file if moddato then you cut it to 2mb for a comparison, or if it is recognized by titan...
The tita use it only for paste or check
Errecinque
29-04-2015, 18:18
I take the discussion to ask about something I don't ? clear....when the ori from 2560 kb read in serial with cock v54, if I risk to write the mod always on the serial line and stops the ecu, I can rewrite it in the bdm port with the same file ori ? or if you do not have the bk made in the bdm are not able to resume. I ask this because? if it were so? it is worth to take the risk and open the control unit only if it was bad writing. Thanks
for what is your experience by writing the file is 2.5 mb with gallo 2 v50 on this car for the time of 40 minutes, the cock is reliable or it is easy to nail these marelli?
It is reliable, I have written multiple times, the file is 2.5 mb. The important thing is that if you split the file for editing the redial in the correct way
but it may be that in writing, it takes 40 minutes?
Unfortunately, and for all the time we want to do before April
sorry, I try to summarize, tell me if it is right. cut the file read with cock in 80 min. 2 mega, loading in the ecm and modify it, this is done always with ecm tools do I concatenate two files, the first one that I select is the micro-and after I add the mod always 2 mega, except with titanium which produces a file with the extension ECM and write it all in 40 minutes. As already mentioned in the discussion, you can edit the file from 2.5 mega directly in 2d, so the driver of titanium, especially for the engine 90 hp they say one thing, but what is going to be changed is not the parameter indicated because those drivers are wrong.
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