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cicciogsr
21-04-2013, 21:16
Hi guys I would like to know who has more? experience me the problems encountered on the alfa GT with engine mjet 16v 150 hp.. you are listening to with pleasure... thanks

rebirthafterrevenge
21-04-2013, 23:04
I believe I have the same problems of the 147 and 156..

motorsport
21-04-2013, 23:34
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legendaryslave
21-04-2013, 23:44
the control unit door that breaks,clutch, delicate and very hard flywheel trabballante, with a map, made as it should take less than his sisters,and we know it because we have done the test insieme.trapezi on the suspension rumorisi, pump clutch that sooner or later begins to leak, you skiodano the exhaust manifolds, turbine tends to be noisy with the classic whistle or even breaking of the net, cases of h20 pump seized and the whole-scale distribution and the valves to the wind, egr scassano the balls, the sleeves of the compressor that cost a bang and are always broken all valid reasons not to be an alpha.
and ? well as ugly to the eye (jeremy clarkson)

motorsport
21-04-2013, 23:59
the legend that is de ago??...... you must scrap is the machine?? ;)

progress
22-04-2013, 00:15
the control unit door that breaks,clutch, delicate and very hard flywheel trabballante, with a map, made as it should take less than his sisters,and we know it because we have done the test insieme.trapezi on the suspension rumorisi, pump clutch that sooner or later begins to leak, you skiodano the exhaust manifolds, turbine tends to be noisy with the classic whistle or even breaking of the net, cases of h20 pump seized and the whole-scale distribution and the valves to the wind, egr scassano the balls, the sleeves of the compressor that cost a bang and are always broken all valid reasons not to be an alpha.
and ? well as ugly to the eye (jeremy clarkson)

in some things I do not agree with your thinking but it also has some advantages this car

sportknight
22-04-2013, 00:52
well,we say that they are the same defects that have a little of all the cars :D

anyway, I have an alfa...a 159 to be honest,we have 2 in the family, a 150 hp my and a 120 hp of my father, and we are both very happy for 3 years, why? we have made only the coupons!!! take it and you will not regret even why? to drive ? a show,especially if the q2...

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 09:13
the control unit door that breaks,clutch, delicate and very hard flywheel trabballante, with a map, made as it should take less than his sisters,and we know it because we have done the test insieme.trapezi on the suspension rumorisi, pump clutch that sooner or later begins to leak, you skiodano the exhaust manifolds, turbine tends to be noisy with the classic whistle or even breaking of the net, cases of h20 pump seized and the whole-scale distribution and the valves to the wind, egr scassano the balls, the sleeves of the compressor that cost a bang and are always broken all valid reasons not to be an alpha.
and ? well as ugly to the eye (jeremy clarkson)

I knew that this darkness light cos?... the s? they are all imperfect ...? sooner or later the old bravo I have to change it .. I can go to work with the crawler..

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 11:18
I gt me would do it with eyes closed and seats are spectacular! the trim ? the alpha and the motor runs without splitting distribution chains prematurely (see bmw), break tested (see vw), change the injectors piezo (see mercedes) and cos? via. according to me, the problems pi? the marginal of the vast majority of cars in the market!

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 11:50
I gt me would do it with eyes closed and seats are spectacular! the trim ? the alpha and the motor runs without splitting distribution chains prematurely (see bmw), break tested (see vw), change the injectors piezo (see mercedes) and cos? via. according to me, the problems pi? the marginal of the vast majority of cars in the market!


the engine of the GT does not have the chain.. and even piezo injectors mounted on the ecu CP

let's say that the defects of the GT front end that deteriorates first time... pi? tires are low and need big has and worse and...

clutch that lasts just... solved easily with a reinforced...

of course, the EGR closes resolved issues for the SWIRL

other problemoni not if kept well....
? always a fiat to which crunches, etc... are normal...

the injectors and pump will last.... if you take water without your knowledge...

not ? compared to a 120d.... category construction superior as the price of used...

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 12:09
I add sleeves turbo both the bottom and top tear...
solved with sleeves venair silicone...

the turbo has no problems when used in an engine oil good and changed the max every 15,000 km

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 12:12
the engine of the GT does not have the chain.. and even piezo injectors mounted on the ecu CP


obvious, but according to me the only real problem tangible are the crunches, however I do not damage the pi? of the many problems. And among other things, the 120 pre 2012 has the problem of distribution... then if you break something in the BMW ohi ohi... (the problem to the swirl has also BMW)

sportknight
22-04-2013, 12:24
look,I work in a body shop,I drive every day cars of all types,who says that audi,bmw,vw,mercedes, etc. is not creak says the fake,maybe they are a little less noisy but all the car noise from the emitting

last week we took out the interior of a c-class coup? 2012 by 60000euro for squeaks from the roof..

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 12:31
the engine of the GT does not have the chain.. and even piezo injectors mounted on the ecu CP

let's say that the defects of the GT front end that deteriorates first time... pi? tires are low and need big has and worse and...

clutch that lasts just... solved easily with a reinforced...

of course, the EGR closes resolved issues for the SWIRL

other problemoni not if kept well....
? always a fiat to which crunches, etc... are normal...

the injectors and pump will last.... if you take water without your knowledge...

not ? compared to a 120d.... category construction superior as the price of used...

the front end that deteriorates what does that mean? clutches last a short while in every car if the pump too, to be honest I've always had a fiat and turning to the workshops, I see many bmw engines to be redone...

sportknight
22-04-2013, 12:33
I have not purchased just because? I came from a fiat coup? and I wanted a little more? of space, but honestly, I still like a casino!!!!!

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 12:46
the front end that deteriorates what does that mean? clutches last a short while in every car if the pump too, to be honest I've always had a fiat and turning to the workshops, I see many bmw engines to be redone...
a suspension of the quadrilateral, with silentbloc rubber becomes soft too early, then you can? fix with a kit powerflex, pi? long-lasting and to the benefit of the estate of the road.

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 13:14
the front end that deteriorates what does that mean? clutches last a short while in every car if the pump too, to be honest I've always had a fiat and turning to the workshops, I see many bmw engines to be redone...

the quadrilateral above to like ? done and materials used, which will deteriorate all the parts that dampen, see silentiblock.. also the stabilizer bar deteriorates early...
the clutch takes very little from the original.... without a map...

the major flaws are these...

The BMW does not have these flaws...
bmw engines to redo it I have seen quite a few... except that chain problem that suffers from the BMW 120d and 118d...
but with coupons, and facts you completely replaces...

but however, it was only a game... as well as the turbines...

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 13:25
Not to insist, but the bmw show 530 has problems with the exhaust manifold, the other day in the workshop it took 7 weld to put it back together... and not ? the first that happens to be in...

rts
22-04-2013, 13:33
and the classic light bulbs of the dial to make jokes from the priest does not say? you burn the ones that light up the knobs of the air, and does not work on the pi? the heating....crazy

Then you have to see if ? been kept well and has very few miles and you use it like a queen OK, but if he lived in a hard way, then get ready with the wallet accordion

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 13:43
according to you is a car you can buy without svenarsi what

sportknight
22-04-2013, 13:48
I from bmw I'm away :D

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 13:50
according to you is a car you can buy without svenarsi what??

and difficult not knowing your chances? and that means you want to and in that state, you'll find him...

each machine has its flaws..

maybe the toyota yaris are those really the mechanics see very little in addition to the dealer...

rego88
22-04-2013, 14:00
the control unit door that breaks,clutch, delicate and very hard flywheel trabballante, with a map, made as it should take less than his sisters,and we know it because we have done the test insieme.trapezi on the suspension rumorisi, pump clutch that sooner or later begins to leak, you skiodano the exhaust manifolds, turbine tends to be noisy with the classic whistle or even breaking of the net, cases of h20 pump seized and the whole-scale distribution and the valves to the wind, egr scassano the balls, the sleeves of the compressor that cost a bang and are always broken all valid reasons not to be an alpha.
and ? well as ugly to the eye (jeremy clarkson)

you forgot that if you have the version euro 4 with the palette variables on the manifold inlet.... you're a goner, why? you have to smadonnare 2 days to pull it down, edit it, and put it back on....
I am also the owner of a 147 1.9 mjet 150 hp.... I have to say that ? true all what you said.... I had problems with the blades, I put a clutch kit reinforced why? only the map slittava the clutch, I changed 2 upper arm and a lower arm (a car with 112,000 km) I I electronically plugged the egr, and I have seen that does not ? ori, but the revised fiat.... but' c' ? to say 2 things..... we take a comparison of the German rivals, not to speak of the price.... a gt with 6000 euro you get a good one put good, 2007, 2008, and with up to 130/140.000 km behind.... the audi a3 of the 2003/04/05 you can find it at 6500 euro.... with the shoulders 250,000 km.... even if the framework in 99.999999% of cases (in km) scaled.... then???? we want to start talking about mechanics??? the 2.0 tdi 140cv bkd smashes the head.... the turbines will break all on all.... flywheels and clutch don't talk about it.... the 1.9 ? discreet.... but the flywheel and clutch disintegrates.... then?? 5 speed.... today, where to go with 5 gears??? the 2.0 tdi 143cv common rail smashes all of the high-pressure pump.... the 2.0 tdi 170cv siemens.... breaks the piezo electric..... what we take????? I prefer a egr breaks (I) modify the intake manifolds, smooth manifolds exhaust.... or similar things.....

rego88
22-04-2013, 14:10
all in all, I'm happy with my nasona.... I strongly recommend a gt... it has problems that are solved easily and with poki euro....

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 14:20
all in all, I'm happy with my nasona.... I strongly recommend a gt... it has problems that are solved easily and with poki euro....

if you have the front end went, brakes, clutch, any shock absorbers.. tires...
I don't think that not a few euros solves.....
but if you f? minimum 2000 euro...

sportknight
22-04-2013, 14:54
not ? said that has all those problems...
the 147 of my brother-in-law, for example, with 120000km still has the arms to the original... there are passat in 100000 have them already? changed 2 times...

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 15:02
the guys that I've seen ? of 2007, and has 65000 km..

sportknight
22-04-2013, 15:21
excellent!!! still there are you thinking about? beautiful to look at and to drive

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 15:44
I'm not thinking about you.. we want to think well and understand that pasta ? the fact the owner now I have put the "farfallette" in the head...on the 16v

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 16:02
if the intake manifold remains always clean (EGR closed) of the valves, the swirl does not break, then one of the pu? always lock open and let them still mounted, the cycle of work in this way is reduced to the extreme!

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 16:09
are you sure that leaving it mounted, sooner or later, they don't break ?..

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 16:19
it does not break anything...

if the EGR is not dirty, too dirty,...

anyway, it blocks everything and hi...

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 16:24
yes, but disabling it you can leave it mounted?

SandroMarciano
22-04-2013, 16:31
it is, however, the 159 my has 60000km and is 25000 the year, let's see if you break and when, I leave up and running with the egr closed?...

alfajtd
22-04-2013, 16:31
yes, but disabling it you can leave it mounted?

leave everything where it is?....

cicciogsr
22-04-2013, 17:26
ok thanks for the info received

guidotacco
22-04-2013, 17:56
if the intake manifold remains always clean (EGR closed) of the valves, the swirl does not break, then one of the pu? always lock open and let them still mounted, the cycle of work in this way is reduced to the extreme!
I agree perfectly!

legendaryslave
22-04-2013, 21:14
and the classic light bulbs of the dial to make jokes from the priest does not say? you burn the ones that light up the knobs of the air, and does not work on the pi? the heating....crazy
this ? a gem the first time that me ? happened I came out of it crazy I took apart half the machine

legendaryslave
22-04-2013, 21:17
you forgot that if you have the version euro 4 with the palette variables on the manifold inlet.... you're a goner, why? you have to smadonnare 2 days to pull it down, edit it, and put it back on....
I am also the owner of a 147 1.9 mjet 150 hp.... I have to say that ? true all what you said.... I had problems with the blades, I put a clutch kit reinforced why? only the map slittava the clutch, I changed 2 upper arm and a lower arm (a car with 112,000 km) I I electronically plugged the egr, and I have seen that does not ? ori, but the revised fiat.... but' c' ? to say 2 things..... we take a comparison of the German rivals, not to speak of the price.... a gt with 6000 euro you get a good one put good, 2007, 2008, and with up to 130/140.000 km behind.... the audi a3 of the 2003/04/05 you can find it at 6500 euro.... with the shoulders 250,000 km.... even if the framework in 99.999999% of cases (in km) scaled.... then???? we want to start talking about mechanics??? the 2.0 tdi 140cv bkd smashes the head.... the turbines will break all on all.... flywheels and clutch don't talk about it.... the 1.9 ? discreet.... but the flywheel and clutch disintegrates.... then?? 5 speed.... today, where to go with 5 gears??? the 2.0 tdi 143cv common rail smashes all of the high-pressure pump.... the 2.0 tdi 170cv siemens.... breaks the piezo electric..... what we take????? I prefer a egr breaks (I) modify the intake manifolds, smooth manifolds exhaust.... or similar things.....


is this true of the fiat engine ? much more powerful of the competitors, and the repair costs are always compared to audi bmw and mercedes

rts
23-04-2013, 13:41
I suggest
1 - consider well the car
2-don't get much influence from (including me) Terrorists of the car:cool:
3 - do not think of buying a used car that you don't face spending....they break, even the new ones
4 - buy a box of ENEMIES and drops relaxing...in the event of a break:mad:

Cristiano75
26-04-2013, 17:47
you forgot that if you have the version euro 4 with the palette variables on the manifold inlet.... you're a goner, why? you have to smadonnare 2 days to pull it down, edit it, and put it back on....
I am also the owner of a 147 1.9 mjet 150 hp.... I have to say that ? true all what you said.... I had problems with the blades, I put a clutch kit reinforced why? only the map slittava the clutch, I changed 2 upper arm and a lower arm (a car with 112,000 km) I I electronically plugged the egr, and I have seen that does not ? ori, but the revised fiat.... but' c' ? to say 2 things..... we take a comparison of the German rivals, not to speak of the price.... a gt with 6000 euro you get a good one put good, 2007, 2008, and with up to 130/140.000 km behind.... the audi a3 of the 2003/04/05 you can find it at 6500 euro.... with the shoulders 250,000 km.... even if the framework in 99.999999% of cases (in km) scaled.... then???? we want to start talking about mechanics??? the 2.0 tdi 140cv bkd smashes the head.... the turbines will break all on all.... flywheels and clutch don't talk about it.... the 1.9 ? discreet.... but the flywheel and clutch disintegrates.... then?? 5 speed.... today, where to go with 5 gears??? the 2.0 tdi 143cv common rail smashes all of the high-pressure pump.... the 2.0 tdi 170cv siemens.... breaks the piezo electric..... what we take????? I prefer a egr breaks (I) modify the intake manifolds, smooth manifolds exhaust.... or similar things.....



SandroMarciano
26-04-2013, 19:15

Cristiano75
26-04-2013, 19:21
About 2.5 bar... with a afr of about 16:1

cicciogsr
26-04-2013, 20:01
I suggest
1 - consider well the car
2-don't get much influence from (including me) Terrorists of the car:cool:
3 - do not think of buying a used car that you don't face spending....they break, even the new ones
4 - buy a box of ENEMIES and drops relaxing...in the event of a break:mad:


the problem ? that pi? laws and less buy why? it takes evil to come to a knowledge of the problems that you may have...

Cristiano75
26-04-2013, 20:05
250cv with the gt2056v, 270cv with the gt2256v.
300cv with the gt2260v

cicciogsr
26-04-2013, 20:37
sorry for the ot, but 270cv are a bit tantini for a gt2056... what is the pressure?

not looking for a car to upset it so much then take a turbo benza and just...

Cristiano75
26-04-2013, 21:05
I agree with you cicciogsr.
The passion nn has the price (sometimes), all the rest c'? mastercard. ...

cicciogsr
26-04-2013, 21:31
having the money would go to each other directly, but unfortunately grace to the state in which we live, after years of sacrifices, and studies can I get to buy a car right away and maybe even buy it if I don't have a minimum safe working... in italy .... not according to your studies and ability? but, as it is better not to pay taxes and the state provides a framework for graduates with different tasks..

legendaryslave
27-04-2013, 00:27
go wibble take the alpha so as soon as the box, I can tell you I told you
hihiihihihihhiih

cicciogsr
27-04-2013, 02:01
And if you are not of the box the port you have and the devastiamo together

msport (exil77grande)
27-04-2013, 17:24
frankly, this post I think almost useless that is useful for you to be aware of some common problems on this car, or on this type of engine, but completely useless if one likes the car and wants to buy it because of this come only discouraged,I can only give advice,and you like the alfa gt ? if you buy it, provided you check for good by a repairer of trust that gives you the stabene,there is no machine that does not have defects from the mother-house, or that it will not be evaluated defective by someone who does this job or that I owned,I had a alfa 147 1.9 jtd 115hp bought new from 2004 to 2011, and honestly besides the replacement of the blower clutch on the early models had plastic and gave problems failure, never had a problem with it all is to not be an animal,the only sour note, unfortunately, are the suspension creaking,and then made a road test and go at a slow pace on a road disconnected and see if you hear these noises,for the rest closing here in the off topic who tells you to take a turbo petrol engine, I say that diesel serious you haven't ever driven.

cicciogsr
27-04-2013, 17:34
frankly, this post I think almost useless that is useful for you to be aware of some common problems on this car, or on this type of engine, but completely useless if one likes the car and wants to buy it because of this come only discouraged,I can only give advice,and you like the alfa gt ? if you buy it, provided you check for good by a repairer of trust that gives you the stabene,there is no machine that does not have defects from the mother-house, or that it will not be evaluated defective by someone who does this job or that I owned,I had a alfa 147 1.9 jtd 115hp bought new from 2004 to 2011, and honestly besides the replacement of the blower clutch on the early models had plastic and gave problems failure, never had a problem with it all is to not be an animal,the only sour note, unfortunately, are the suspension creaking,and then made a road test and go at a slow pace on a road disconnected and see if you hear these noises,for the rest closing here in the off topic who tells you to take a turbo petrol engine, I say that diesel serious you haven't ever driven.

I agree with you, I accept your advice to me, and we'll close here... it's useless to talk on the sex of the angels or of the car..

hyrosat
18-05-2013, 00:23
well,we say that they are the same defects that have a little of all the cars :D

anyway, I have an alfa...a 159 to be honest,we have 2 in the family, a 150 hp my and a 120 hp of my father, and we are both very happy for 3 years, why? we have made only the coupons!!! take it and you will not regret even why? to drive ? a show,especially if the q2...

Hello sportknight, I am having problems from a bit of time with my 159 1900 150HP seghettamento I did already several replacements of parts would you have any advice for me I'm taking you back to the link which I wrote,
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?1270-guida-per-disabilitazione-farfalle-SWIRL-motori-Alfa-MJT&p=44178#post44178

Hello and Thanks

sportknight
18-05-2013, 10:48
Take away everything and you won't be any problem, dpf egr and swirl etc.....