Problem egr saab 9.3 does not close electronically

[sportknight]

Hi guys
I tried to delete electronically the egr of a saab 9.3 1.9 tid 150 hp with edc16c39
the egr instead, the diagnosis seems to work without problems as if it had not been done anything

I'm attaching the files

[rego88]

test so....

[Alfa159 q4]

I did a long time ago, and to close it I have definitely had to read in bdm, why? missing 2 checks.
I still can't see the file senn? I said with certainty..

[sportknight]

? a simple edc16c39,why? should not read it all?

[sportknight]

[Alfa159 q4]

It is exact!

[frantik3]

edc16c9 are only two areas in the sw if you don't read.

[sportknight]

these two zones in the sw thing contain?

[frantik3]

almost the same management that was read out in serial, where there are also other controls egr

[giama'a]

so always read them in a bdm?at least these.

[Alfa159 q4]

so always read them in a bdm?at least these.

If you just need to map it goes well from the obd

[legendaryslave]

you also redo the maps for the engine I think should be made also for a map

[frantik3]

if you have the cock just write the serial that the writes complete in serial

[sportknight]

those who read it read it with the cock(clone) :confused:

[frantik3]

But in writing the writes complete

[sportknight]

and but you always have to open it to read it in full, or find it around :D

[rego88]

bho.... me nn it turns out that edc16c9, the fact is that I made a edc16c9 luca stanca and egr off with mpps, and controlled ? closed perfectly without pulling down anything...

[sansec]

bho.... me nn it turns out that edc16c9, the fact is that I made a edc16c9 luca stanca and egr off with mpps, and controlled ? closed perfectly without pulling down anything...

Hello, I confirm, and I ask for help, on a saab 93 with data 0281011970 1037372717 , obtained with MPPS v12, however, by choosing saab 95 EDC16C39 , only that the reading is successful, but the file generated is incorrect, the ECM does not recognize him, forcing drivers to open it but it's all busted up, so I disassembled the unit and looking on the internet confirmed a Bosch EDC16C9 and not C39, and then I was able to retrieve a file from 1MB complete to be able to write with the cock in serial, because I tried in vain to open the ecu nonriuscendoci to proceed in the bdm,

these days, I will try to write it in the serial, after you have removed the EGR and DPF, someone has a contra-indication for this operation?

Or a good safe method to open this unit difficult that will not work.....

I enclose a file golds that I would like to write in the serial a help it would be much appreciated

file ori deleted

[cinqueturbo]

To write the write is with Mpps or Cock without any problem, Mpps and much more? fast..
to open the ECU you have to heat it up for good with the fohn by the body shop "just to be clear"
but pay attention to the tools that you use for leverage, should never get in ... and where you see the valley "part pi? low" them warms duty why? and pasted it completely..

[sportknight]

with the cock the edc16c9 the comprehensive laws,with the mpps no

[sansec]

When I choose the car and the model of the controller tells me to just write and not read
Am I doing something wrong?

[cinqueturbo]

When I choose the car and the model of the controller tells me to just write and not read
Am I doing something wrong?

with that tool?

[sansec]

When I choose the car and the model of the controller tells me to just write and not read
Am I doing something wrong?

Galletto 2

[cinqueturbo]

When I choose the car and the model of the controller tells me to just write and not read
Am I doing something wrong?


Galletto 2

No you're not wrong, nothing is not read from the serial..
you read with BDM and then you write from the serial wanting..

[sansec]

To write the write is with Mpps or Cock without any problem, Mpps and much more? fast..
to open the ECU you have to heat it up for good with the fohn by the body shop "just to be clear"
but pay attention to the tools that you use for leverage, should never get in ... and where you see the valley "part pi? low" them warms duty why? and pasted it completely..

Here , then can I use the gun hot air, well, of course, paying attention to the peripheral zone, can I try that again.
I would like to know if the file that I uplodato can write it without problems with galletto 2,


No you're not wrong, nothing is not read from the serial..
you read with BDM and then you write from the serial wanting..

Have you seen the file that I posted, is that a gold of the network, the ecm says that it is ok, I can use this and write it with the cock in the serial, and I'm doing good, perhaps before I write it in gold, and see if everything is ok, then I change no egr and no dpf and 2? writing with mod, can I proceed?


To write the write is with Mpps or Cock without any problem, Mpps and much more? fast..
to open the ECU you have to heat it up for good with the fohn by the body shop "just to be clear"
but pay attention to the tools that you use for leverage, should never get in ... and where you see the valley "part pi? low" them warms duty why? and pasted it completely..

I confirm that the edc16C9 can't I write it with MPPS, or you, to me, in the version of the v12 I do not see under saab.

[cinqueturbo]

Here , then can I use the gun hot air, well, of course, paying attention to the peripheral zone, can I try that again.
I would like to know if the file that I uplodato can write it without problems with galletto 2,


Have you seen the file that I posted, is that a gold of the network, the ecm says that it is ok, I can use this and write it with the cock in the serial, and I'm doing good, perhaps before I write it in gold, and see if everything is ok, then I change no egr and no dpf and 2? writing with mod, can I proceed?


I confirm that the edc16C9 can't I write it with MPPS, or you, to me, in the version of the v12 I do not see under saab.

The gun that you don't know her but just that warms duty..
The file and posted it and ok, you can use it.
and useless to do a lot of writing tests, s? doubts about the file to be t? modato post it for someone to say? s? and ok.
you can easily write with MPPS.
you noticed that Mpps are not in the Saab with EDC16c9 sar? a mistake, you can write it with Opel Astra..

[sansec]

The gun that you don't know her but just that warms duty..
The file and posted it and ok, you can use it.
and useless to do a lot of writing tests, s? doubts about the file to be t? modato post it for someone to say? s? and ok.
you can easily write with MPPS.
you noticed that Mpps are not in the Saab with EDC16c9 sar? a mistake, you can write it with Opel Astra..

Thanks, a thousand,
The hot air gun that I see it, I used it to remove paint a wooden window, as a phone , purchased in the GBC, has various adapters for directing air to the output,
Also, that's great news, now in control of opel astra then appears the EDC16C9, that I can use to write to the file ch I own,
the attached file is modified first, can you tell me if it is done well?

[cinqueturbo]

Lai done with the SW? Time or Ecusafe?

[sansec]

Lai done with the SW? Time or Ecusafe?

You confirm Time, written today, as you have indicated you with MPPS and the opel Astra edc16c9
write the correct way, the car started and everything seems to be ok, now look for a solution to the turbine , the problem of variable geometry, just solve I can with the diagnosis, check the position of the EGR if it remains steady at 4% ( closed ) for now recognizes the vehicle without a particulate filter as it is not' more' this is the voice regeneration in active services.
Thanks for now, you've been very kind you update it when the car is in the street, now has the defect as before up to 3000 rpm, the turbine is not then pushes shoots, old turbine geometry blocked, this used from junkyard seems to be the same defect. seen the same behavior, rises to 0.3 Bar up to 2500 rpm and then when you get close to 3000 rises to 0.9, and pushes.

[frantik3]

the original pressure and 1.33-35 on that car, I studied very well, since in my possession for 5 years

[sansec]

the original pressure and 1.33-35 on that car, I studied very well, since in my possession for 5 years
I figured, get so high, but the described problem does not have any idea?
The car you 800 rpm, lunges all the gas, accounts well for 7 seconds and salento slowly with some borbottamento gets close to 300 rpm and then shoots, wrammmmm, and, behold, the pressure in the intake, in the ascent of turns the hose on the suction of the crush easily without him resist, then passed the 3000 then swells....

[frantik3]

even with the original map?

[sansec]

even with the original map?
Yes, it all started with dpf intasatissimo the car is off, recovered does not put in motion, the dpf was disconnected, removed and the drive is shared, then the dpf has been opened and emptied of everything, the car, and then it was up and running and has a distance of about 2 km to try and it was all perfect at all speeds, and then began the defect, loss of turbo pressure at low revs, and then I thought of at first, to the control unit that has found strange the dpf , but no recovery , only in diagnosis error: insufficient pressure in the suction, from the discovery of the turbine geometry blocked, etc........
turbine used from a dealer, but nothing the same problem, so we reset with file ori modified without the dpf, but nothing the same problem, then check the sensor absolute pressure, mass air flow sensor, intercooler inlet and outlet, the control terminal silencer clogged ( nothing ) , then the catalyst is attached to the turbine ( ****** ), ergo the turbine new used and' defective also, tomorrow perhaps replace it with another or return the money, then we will see, but if I confirmed I exclude any fault in the ECU, here or there' some loss' in the lap, or some sensor that makes the catty.

Help......and' well-pleasing.....

[frantik3]

Yes, it all started with dpf intasatissimo the car is off, recovered does not put in motion, the dpf was disconnected, removed and the drive is shared, then the dpf has been opened and emptied of everything, the car, and then it was up and running and has a distance of about 2 km to try and it was all perfect at all speeds, and then began the defect, loss of turbo pressure at low revs, and then I thought of at first, to the control unit that has found strange the dpf , but no recovery , only in diagnosis error: insufficient pressure in the suction, from the discovery of the turbine geometry blocked, etc........
turbine used from a dealer, but nothing the same problem, so we reset with file ori modified without the dpf, but nothing the same problem, then check the sensor absolute pressure, mass air flow sensor, intercooler inlet and outlet, the control terminal silencer clogged ( nothing ) , then the catalyst is attached to the turbine ( ****** ), ergo the turbine new used and' defective also, tomorrow perhaps replace it with another or return the money, then we will see, but if I confirmed I exclude any fault in the ECU, here or there' some loss' in the lap, or some sensor that makes the catty.

Help......and' well-pleasing.....



Swirl valve did you check?

[sansec]

Swirl valve did you check?

I spiazzi, what is it ? maybe you know him by any other name

[frantik3]

shutter valves intake manifold

[frantik3]

or check out all of the tubes, control the geometry and the sensor, or the geometry in the rear of the engine you have a room expansion in the plastic under the egr and see if not ? route

[sansec]

or check out all of the tubes, control the geometry and the sensor, or the geometry in the rear of the engine you have a room expansion in the plastic under the egr and see if not ? route

Fixed,,,, cheers, added plate matte to close with certainty the recircolo of the exhaust gas, directly on the exhaust manifold close to the turbine and not near the EGR, and, behold, the car revive.
Cabbage has made us crazy, found cracks in the coated tube in the canvas of the recovery of the gas, and also that the EGR as closed remained open, Diagnosis stops about 4%, but, however, she passed out a draft.
Now a rocket, 150 hp are recuscitati, had begun to think that they had exchanged with donkeys.
Then again , if the car misfires at increasing rpm and speaking of pressure, don't just watch and go crazy below the sensors, but close the EGR and then try again......
Thanks to all for the invaluable help, which led me to find the solution and create a file ( and write it with many fears relieved ) with EGR and DPF off that did not send in the recovery of the car and it works well, however 10 days of the test and riaggiorno this discussion to confirm what has been said so far.....

[rdponline]

I agree only with the bdm... the kess not the law, ktag everything is ok... you can say that I do 90% c9 c39 always...