lancia phedra 2.2 jtd key coding

[michele30]

they took me in the garage with a lancia phedra with the carroattrezzi that should not be, ( I have to say that this machine ? already been to 2 mechanics )
? been removed throughout , why? every so often he didn't and now counted casini who have done it, now does not own more.
they changed to body ( seen that ? a system the peugeot bsi ) and the control unit is derived in the engine .
for what I've seen, the ecu is the original body ? unusable, if I plug it leave the wiper lights and I do not even make the diagnosis.
with the new one instead makes me make the diagnosis, but not that of the engine, with the error that there is no encoding.
if I do the new encoding of the keys instead tells me that c'? a problem , the key is not communicating.
there ? never seen anything like that?
tomorrow I look tuttlo l system, even if the last I see.

[Backgroop]

From personal experience, c'? out like crazy!! to me ? happened a long time ago, this car in addition to the traditional encoding have an electronic alarm that works with the Bsi, which I solved with the removal of the Bsi Bsm ee engine + cylinder keys of another demolition..

[legendaryslave]

and if you do a total on the ecu the engine, and sets in motion

[Backgroop]

and if you do a total on the ecu the engine, and sets in motion
I'm sorry, but with the total of the ecu remains in recovery.. after many attempts I have made a total but will not let you go past 3,000 rpm, with errors in the ecu that is not clear.. the only ? try to make a partial and recode the keys..

[legendaryslave]

you ? a try make a virgin ecu engine and coding the keys on bsi

[michele30]

so you say that the encoding of the keys are not in the can I fix it without resetting the ecu?
I don't understand what a mess they have combined.
according to you, how ever, does not make the diagnosis of the engine control unit?
tells me it's not ? can enter the diagnosis, and I do see 3 parameters, all three on the code but that should not be

[giuseppe1374]

please can you post the data from the ecu? ? a edc15c2? can you post more? info is not ? said that you can't? make a scod

[Backgroop]

does not enter the diagnosis ccm why? the code is not received or wrong, and see only the parameters related to the starter motor..

[giuseppe1374]

yes I understand, try to pass the content of the bsi in the other working

[giuseppe1374]

passes the contents of the bsi if ? a sangem ? in the micro if ? a valeo ? a e2p 95128

[legendaryslave]

passes the contents of the bsi if ? a sangem ? in the micro if ? a valeo ? a e2p 95128
also this street ? perocorribile

[michele30]

today, making a diagnosis to the body (bsi ) gives me:
number keys are enabled 0
the transponder is not recognized
anti-scanning no
start the engine -- not allowed
alignment C. M. - body - no
bsi - virgin

but the bsi to configure it?

I also saw that I have no communication with the node, the steering column stalk error:
VAN car centr. steering wheel controls; communication is absent.

I checked all the plumbing that connects the switch to the body and it's all good.
I think is a problem of the body computer that communicates with the system controller and the node drivers ( and the engine control unit, as it has not the code )
breast' the other diagnostics.
the strange thing however ? the machine I am both a body(bsi), a unit derived from ( bsm) , I don't know what a mess they made, but new ones should communicate, right?

[michele30]

or wrong, I wanted to say, the control unit bsm to configure it?

[Backgroop]

Michele30 then your problem is that you have to encode the BSI, if you have examiner in the BSI or Body in schedules c'? an option that says ecu replacement engine replacement BSI or body computer or something like that now I do not remember exactly,where it makes you do all the steps of configuration of the control units new, or at least de body again ( I don't know if actually? it is new) as well as understood it does not show you that is aligned to the engine control unit.. in the procedure makes you enter the chassis number, the type of equipment and the encoding of the keys, follow the step-by-step and you will see that solve the problem..

[michele30]

hello I have a examiner older, the procedure that you say I know you and:
1) codeci access
2) v. the.n
3) opzoni customer
4) learning keys

then access code ok, it tells me that it's okay
the frame ( see the.n ) tells me that not c'? need to change it
options ok
the problem ? the encoding keys, when it tells me to click continue, then turn the key on the gear. them not hear me the key.
then made two attempts , it crashes and says retry limit exceeded.

my problem ? not being able to perform the diagnosis of the node in the steering column stalk, I do not think that you send me has a good end of this procedure of learning the keys to this.

[progress]

hi, then I suggest you to do the reading with the examiner of the body, the ec's entry for the replacement of the body read the old body disconnect and rejoin make the end of this procedure writes all of the settings of the old one,if this is not possible, you need to always examiner with a subscription ok and internet connection, and on the body in the new ec the configuration item on-line, obviously, you have to enter the vin in the way you load the configuration of that body

[Backgroop]

The examiner via the Web will not work more?, the year off, but as I understood the problem, and in the code of the keys, not the law, could be the antenna of the code I have the ecu code that is integrated to the devialuci..

[michele30]

as the ecu code is located in the column light switch?
the body does not have the ecu code?

[Backgroop]

as the ecu code is located in the column light switch?
the body does not have the ecu code?

Hello michele, the antenna code and connected to the devialuci, the devialuci serves as the ecu code but be careful converts the signal read from the key and transmits it to the BSI via the network Van/Can you the rest is the BSI or the body computer, but if the devialuci does not work or the antenna is not working the keys are not in the codificherai ever..

[progress]

The examiner via the Web will not work more?, the year off, but as I understood the problem, and in the code of the keys, not the law, could be the antenna of the code I have the ecu code that is integrated to the devialuci..

no, not in the sense that the examiner the web will not work or, better, now called witexedi and does the same functions of examinerweb only that, with the advent of the witech have changed the name

[Backgroop]

no, not in the sense that the examiner the web will not work or, better, now called witexedi and does the same functions of examinerweb only that, with the advent of the witech have changed the name
this until a few weeks ago, the actia has closed the site to download online now for those who want to continue to use must require the cd to the actia is for the release and for software updates..

[giuseppe1374]

my advice ? always the same, try to move the e2p

[progress]

this until a few weeks ago, the actia has closed the site to download online now for those who want to continue to use must require the cd to the actia is for the release and for software updates..

the relise and updates with the download of always online on witexedi for both the examiner and for witech with examiner emulator

[michele30]

joseph I don't have the hardware to make this move.
but sorry for one thing, I must first solve the problem of comuicazione , the cio? the diagnosis that I can not do with the dimmer switch.
this machine was, then ? passed in other workshops and now no more, it may be that they did jump the switch? it's a strange thing, and then I tried connecting an old dimmer switch and is not to be the same diagnosis, may be that you have to skip the new body?
when I plug in both the body old body again , as soon as I plug the key on gear, leave the lights from the sun and the wipers and should always be.

[Backgroop]

Not c? communication between the switch and body you have to control the network van/can..

[michele30]

the wires of the can network must be good continuity between the switch and the body and having an old switch I have also tried with another if entered in the diagnosis , but nothing. So I assume that it is a problem of the body , but the strange thing ? the machine when I ? arrived had two, the original and one that as I say it would be new but with both the same problem, it may be that they have broken 2 body according to you?
according to me should be the body, but I can't change another body because they are not safe

[giuseppe1374]

it could also just be a problem of configuration of the nodes, you need to configure the body if you want to come to**** if no, they are only lost words

[michele30]

type a proxi alignment of the right
c'? a procedure in automatic or do I have to do the one that is in the configuration and I have to say all of the things that has the car?
I use examiner's old but on the fiat (original fiat just make alignment proxy and configure the units excluded.
here, however, is not ? the same procedure

[berard]

Hello, you can do one thing :open the bsi and see if they have changed the memories at least you can understand what they have broken.:D

[progress]

type a proxi alignment of the right
c'? a procedure in automatic or do I have to do the one that is in the configuration and I have to say all of the things that has the car?
I use examiner's old but on the fiat (original fiat just make alignment proxy and configure the units excluded.
here, however, is not ? the same procedure

on phedra can't proxare does not exist, the function

[progress]

type a proxi alignment of the right
c'? a procedure in automatic or do I have to do the one that is in the configuration and I have to say all of the things that has the car?
I use examiner's old but on the fiat (original fiat just make alignment proxy and configure the units excluded.
here, however, is not ? the same procedure
and can, instead, that the one who has replaced the body (and again, if at all, and the same particular) have not configured the same, and then, and like to have a skull blank

[giuseppe1374]

it could be but if it was virgin not should work for nothing as it has no configuration and construction

[michele30]

then it may be that you do not get the diagnosis in some units,why? not ? well configured?
not to be the diagnosis of the airbag switch and the engine why? has the block of codes ( code ) then if one wants to do a diagnosis to the engine if you do not have the code that works can not.

[michele30]

Yep, they are still in the ball with this machine, to remove every problem I took the pieces in the demolition of a machine equal this?:
the engine control unit
bsm and bsi ( body )
dimmer switch with antenna and key.
Mounted everything ready to go but there was nothing, all as before.
Made the diagnosis but cannot enter the node I in any way and are not even arrows and lights, on the contrary that are always on, and not go out.
I checked the wiring from the dimmer switch to the bsi and ? ok, and also the power supply of the dimmer switch ? ok .
Do you have any advice? I have them finished.