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Hi guys....
Yesterday I was going to try the map on the skoda of my father, TDI engine, 90 hp, EDC15...A Golf virtually...Start reading, it asks you to disconnect the fuse11, I mappetta, recalculation of the checksum....Recheck, and load. Write done properly, 100%, and shooting sigh of relief...mahhh We are here. Around the picture, and all is silent. Not to be a part of! Try again, but nothing....I Do the ecu id without turning off the picture, and nothing, it says; the ECU is NOT FOUND....
Solution? Retrieved from Msport....
Now, these ecu, should be made with a lot of tranquility? by MPPS....Where is the problem?
Ah, the voltage over 13, and pc to the network, and can be installed by even the antivirus.....I have a tremendous fear to try it on other cars :S
Am I out of luck or what?
I have to say that before this he had only written a Swift Nevertheless, 69cv.
leandro89
06-04-2013, 01:59
hello, at me ? happened with mpps a problem, say like with a grandepunto, but by forcing the write to the original file ? riparita quietly at the third stroke.
sometimes mpps is some error but I think that is normal.
voltage is very important to use a power supply attached to the battery and take off the interior lights to reduce power consumption of the voltage then goes to the first ever best.....
Hi guys....
Yesterday I was going to try the map on the skoda of my father, TDI engine, 90 hp, EDC15...A Golf virtually...Start reading, it asks you to disconnect the fuse11, I mappetta, recalculation of the checksum....Recheck, and load. Write done properly, 100%, and shooting sigh of relief...mahhh We are here. Around the picture, and all is silent. Not to be a part of! Try again, but nothing....I Do the ecu id without turning off the picture, and nothing, it says; the ECU is NOT FOUND....
Solution? Retrieved from Msport....
Now, these ecu, should be made with a lot of tranquility? by MPPS....Where is the problem?
Ah, the voltage over 13, and pc to the network, and can be installed by even the antivirus.....I have a tremendous fear to try it on other cars :S
Am I out of luck or what?
I have to say that before this he had only written a Swift Nevertheless, 69cv.
have you tried the recovery mode.
cawadany
06-04-2013, 09:10
I made a Polo 1.9 TDI 101 EDC15, with MPPS V5. Unplugged the fuse 11 and it all completed successfully. I would think a checksum problem, for? I think that if it was what you would have had to be able to identify the ecu and rewrite the file ori.....
Guys the tension was over 13,all off, and then on the network without an anti-virus... In recovey mode I tried, But nothing.... Ah, oraho. Light the airbag is turned on.
see on the tastes drivers what you mark maybe you can figure out the reason...
understand, also, to me a similar thing you have to be quick to turn on the car ignition and to write the original mode? recovery. try and let me know
see on the tastes drivers what you mark maybe you can figure out the reason...
the indicator light airbag ? on why you have removed the fuse 11,but danny, tell me you shot the ecu or not because I did not understand?
cawadany
06-04-2013, 13:31
the indicator light airbag ? on why you have removed the fuse 11,but danny, tell me you shot the ecu or not because I did not understand?
In my case, removed the fuse and no light on.
Once only I tried to read a edc15v a new beattle and I am not even id the ecu. he also says to me the ecu is not found. Sar? the type of ecu a p? delicate
Already, perfect, I said the ECU is NOT FOUND.
Yes, I've recovered, or better, has recovered Msport....Perhaps if ? managed to see what was in there you might understand the reason....
For the spy, on Monday? I do make a diagnosis...I don't have VagCom...
sportknight
06-04-2013, 14:56
with these you can also try to staccaare the battery for a while and to rewrite directly without ecuid,some times it goes..
Done well, tried a dozen times.... :/is always negative...
They told me to make it to the tour, unfortunately I don't have the machine for you to try.
3557
Guys, can? for him to be the culprit?
cawadany
08-04-2013, 11:22
With ECM when you have made all your changes to the file and close the dialog asks you if you want to save the changes. The saved and you return to the main screen, click on export eprom changed and he makes you save a file with the checksum calculated. You have done this procedure?
No, I did utility, checksum, recalculate the checksum, and then I saved.....
cawadany
08-04-2013, 11:36
I think that the procedure is correct, in that way.....
If you want to mail file ori and mod files without calculating the checksum that we see.....
sportknight
08-04-2013, 11:49
calcolalo with the mpps
before you write under the write button c'? a button checksum
select it,select the files to the original and then the modified one, and you calculate the checksum by comparison
once this is done you can write the files that makes you save
3558 ORI
3559 MOD
Mmmm, ok to do it with MPPS.....The point, ?....The string of code, should not be all the same? The one posted in the screen, a couple of messages ago, differs from 8bit...it's normal, or not?
sportknight
08-04-2013, 12:34
sorry, but what ? a partial checksum from one address to another,you instead need the checksum is complete, you can calculate or through the driver or through mpps or through some program
I used the utility, the checksum of the ECM...
The first part, the one that appears in the scheramta main ECM ? the same, and I "trusted"....Searching again, I found that part different. Now I wonder, can? be that was the problem of the block, ecu, and the impossibility? also do the ecu id?
MisterKappa
08-04-2013, 13:01
Interesting..
To the point I'm trying to understand what was the problem that I would not stay at the foot :D
sorry, but the problem was not that you were reading the file?
No, after you write it, doesn't it ? pi? game, was not the ecu id, and do not force it write it read...
cawadany
08-04-2013, 13:49
3558 ORI
3559 MOD
Mmmm, ok to do it with MPPS.....The point, ?....The string of code, should not be all the same? The one posted in the screen, a couple of messages ago, differs from 8bit...it's normal, or not?
The mod file that you posted has already? the checksum recalculated. Post the one with the changes that have been made to you directly.
3561
Here are the two files open, the ecm...
cawadany
08-04-2013, 14:15
By comparing the two files that you posted you will notice these differences..... I don't think you have made these changes "hand", but I believe that it is the soft that has recalculated the checksum.
sportknight
08-04-2013, 15:01
remove those changes and if you don't have the drivers to do to calculate the checksum of the mpps....
I have a small tool to calculate the cks of the edc15, give me the time of hunting for hard disk....
The checksum, I did recalculate....
For?, using the checksum function to be partial, to be equal only to the first part, which also appears in the main screen of the ECM...Then the rest, ? everything is different.
However, I do not think that tenter? still write if I don't have the instrumentation to be able to possibly recover... :/
sportknight
08-04-2013, 18:00
don't do partial....
No, the post lock ecu, I made a partial... And in the first picture you can see the difference Checksum
sometimes MPPS misfires in the K-line if you do not select " low-speed "
Mmm, a lot of misfiring dacompletare the writing 100% and not to do ir? even the ecu ID? O. o
Try to recalculate the cks with this little tool and see if anything changes! ;)
Thanks Eismann! :) Try now!
3570
But why? says Ck the correct=0?
Mmm, a lot of misfiring dacompletare the writing 100% and not to do ir? even the ecu ID? O. o
maybe you're right, I when I write or read always select the lowest speed in the k line
and then it is sure that the fuse 11 corresponds to the quuadro tools? many vag't even have.
3570
But why? says Ck the correct=0?
Why? the cks in theory ? correct....try to make a map edc15 without the use of the driver, and again using the program....do some test and see....
Ok, eismann,after I try! Thanks a lot in the meantime! :)
With regard to the fuse11,the skoda octavia ? a golfIV, and disconnected the fuse, the picture remained off...
disconnect the fuse no 11 was of obligation with the old kwp2000, interfaces, and today even if you warn to do so is not necessary. This was my personal experience
sportknight
10-04-2013, 00:09
really on a golf course if you do not levavo the fuse is not used to read to me the car with the mpps...
No, I read it, the first time I was not even asked to switch off the fuse, the second reading is....
I now have a p? afraid to use I'm MPPS....su two reprogramming, has had 50% success :/
sportknight
15-04-2013, 13:09
sorry,try to look for the driver on the ecm without making it look to him, make some changes,please save the checksum automatically(do we have to calculate the partial that I have not understood yet that is...) and then write it down
or from the program of the mpps go to calculating the checksum and insert before the files to the original,then the modified one, and save the files with the checksum,at this point, write guaranteeing a voltage of 12 volts, at least, and it should go all right... for the sake do the slow write...
I thing I see it very simple,I do not understand why? you're frobbing with this checksum...
then if you have problems, send me the map that you saved him, I am the checksum..
No, I'm not I'm frobbing...
The problem ? I have written a map with correct checksum(according to the ecm, in its screen of the home), has completed the writing up to 100%, but after it was not on ir? even the ecu ID....
sportknight
15-04-2013, 13:58
And then? have you tried to write back the original one? That checksum did you do to calculate the driver?
When you ? blocked I have done everything, to rewrite ori, force without making the ecu id, disconnect the battery, with the ignition turned off, ignition turned on, but nothing. Retrieved from Daniele at the desk...But of course, has a cost all of us?, and I would be afraid to risk again. But in fact, I want to understand the reason for the block... :/
The checksum I did it through the funozione UTILITY of the ecm, selezinoando bosch edc 15 29f400, appeared the green squares, and the written correct CHECKSUM. And, in fact, on the home screen, where it compares the two files, was correct...
elettro72
15-04-2013, 16:17
are you sure that your mpps is ok?
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 16:44
It is the first and the only unit that you tried to write ?
No because I only read my with the MPPS, and I have a certain fear to make the first writing.. :)
sportknight
15-04-2013, 16:54
? always a risk,unfortunately if you do not take risks you may not know
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 17:01
I know that rischiero'..
at least now I can afford to use the scuter :)
I know that rischiero'..
at least now I can afford to use the scuter :)
Let's say the time now can :D
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 17:06
Yeah, I thought of that hahaha :D
sportknight
15-04-2013, 17:14
scooter :P
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 17:19
Eh, the name is so affixed in a manner of deception.. kidding..
as always convinced rider.. I have found myself lately to use these gizmos most of the bike..
and I would have never thought of that.. but hey.. it is part of the old-age hihihi
Sorry for the OT
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 20:04
Written my golf a little while ago.. it was all perfect :D
I when I saw that he had completed the writing, I was happy...but then not ? game for? :/
MisterKappa
15-04-2013, 21:31
Ah you ?
But, I knew blockages problematic especially if you do this right at the beginning..
but I read that there is also going to be the shot in the subsequent tests..
I have a golf 5 140cv 2004.. I set the speed? low and with the charger attached (but small) the mpps marked on the 12.8.. after turning on the contact..
I waited a little bit, and I started writing.. after 8 minutes has reached 100% and the opening of the dialogue, I turned off the contact and did ok.. ok again and stop
Yes, I also....But, unfortunately, nothing, no ? the state can resume it from the serial...
Msport, you got worked, there have ... more thought of the possible reason?
msport (exil77grande)
16-04-2013, 08:45
Yes, I also....But, unfortunately, nothing, no ? the state can resume it from the serial...
Msport, you got worked, there have ... more thought of the possible reason?
the issue could be any thing,anti-virus, even if the mode is disabled,the conditions of the pc,a screen saver,the battery of the car, even if the above 12v,the car radio,light bulbs, interior,headlights on,the opening of a door during the step of writing or even just a case,however, let us not forget one basic thing,who knows what you have done in the mod,from what I managed to read from the ecu locked the mod was inside and there were a lot of errors but in the end, you are no longer made to feel,lights off?
msport (exil77grande)
16-04-2013, 08:54
It is the first and the only unit that you tried to write ?
No because I only read my with the MPPS, and I have a certain fear to make the first writing.. :)
the mpps danny has already read and written a 1.3 mjet 70 hp with success,your has done its job on your golf and then go well,or what works or does not work,mpps in these years I do not know how many have been sold and have never given me problems,I can't remember one that has given you problems if you do not with to install the sw for the pc messed up for the rest all ok,let's not forget that people like me have spent 5.800? for kess v2 to write to the drive without fear, and in the case of a negative to have a support and I guarantee you that the fear after a while passes, but everything has its cost and then settle to spend less and fiddle around with a bit of fear and wrapped in some kind of hitch or you can go to a professional or buy hw drivers.
MisterKappa
16-04-2013, 09:17
Yes, I agree ;)
However, now is the time to prepare a mappetta and the sparaflasho again !
Daniel, you are right, but I was messed up...At the end she turned off here, the workshop crucca vw, through vag. All fixed ;)
On the mpps, exact, read and written the 70cv of a friend, without a hitch....About the skoda, I don't know, everything was under control, there are xenon, or anything...maybe seriously ? was the bad luck to kiss me....
In the file that I had a car charger from inca, were changed only some of the maps through the drivers...So, nothing out of driver, and nothing that I think I may have had to compromise in such a way the ecu. The thing that I did not explain myself ? that usually the problems occur when they are completed, and it was here ? manifested after...anyway, the whole ? well that ends well, and thankfully all ? the finished good...
Regarding the instrumentation, the official, well, I'll give you absolutely right...But it's not doing it for work, it becomes obviously impossible to amortize the money :D
MisterKappa
16-04-2013, 14:49
But then it was a checksum problem or what ?
Well, according to me remains classified in error, unknown...C'? to say that the 4 numbers to consider in the home of the ECM, were correct, going to see the values in the partial, up to a certain point was the same, then busted all over....
For?, in general, the checksum is wrong dovvrebbe not start the car, while here it was not on ir? nothing...I Would try to write the file ori...But I "fear"...
sportknight
16-04-2013, 22:44
the light airbaig ? normal if you have removed the fuse to the dashboard,you have to reset via the diagnosis
You for the light I know...it's Just that with torque through the ELM did not give me anything.....Bloody VAG.... :D
elettro72
18-04-2013, 12:50
then Danny your mpps ? ok,if you have already written to other machines........perhaps, then, you were wrong you something for the checksum has me already a success sbagliarlo but then when I had re-written the ori the car ? game tranquilllamente,always remember to turn off antivirus and open the program as administrator
Yes, in general...The problem? ? that here was not a pi? nothing, the ecu id, or anything. Even to force the scrittra went... let's Hope that doesn't happen more....
matteo87
31-05-2013, 12:26
I will tell you my misadventure with my polo 1.4 tdi 70cv EDC15P with mpps map made with ecm checksum did calculate to mpps, I'm going to write, gets to 100% but the fuel pump does not feel that a spin. in fact the machine is not part of it! I try to force the ori but nothing! even the rooster gold ? managed to capture it! then we dismantle the center and do a tour, but surprise, not even a tour you can't read it! we had to desolder the e2p and risaldarne a new gi? programmed with the map ori car! ? success a second time but I managed to take it with kwp2000, practically, I discovered that the function calculates chk my mpps does not work! result: I sold it and I bought a gallov2, but now fear ? so anyway!
legendaryslave
31-05-2013, 13:13
I will tell you my misadventure with my polo 1.4 tdi 70cv EDC15P with mpps map made with ecm checksum did calculate to mpps, I'm going to write, gets to 100% but the fuel pump does not feel that a spin. in fact the machine is not part of it! I try to force the ori but nothing! even the rooster gold ? managed to capture it! then we dismantle the center and do a tour, but surprise, not even a tour you can't read it! we had to desolder the e2p and risaldarne a new gi? programmed with the map ori car! ? success a second time but I managed to take it with kwp2000, practically, I discovered that the function calculates chk my mpps does not work! result: I sold it and I bought a gallov2, but now fear ? so anyway!
on 15 must first be calculated in the cks
cawadany
31-05-2013, 13:24
Mpps has the option to calculate it before writing on edc15. I made a pole edc15 without problems, the calculated check via other sw.
matteo87
31-05-2013, 14:39
in fact, to be safe I did recalculate to mpps! but nothing! with the checksum that is calculated by ******* I go directly to do the writing without the person who calculate and machine the part without any problems!
cawadany
31-05-2013, 14:45
Probably better to feed him the file with the check already? calculated
tuning73
01-06-2013, 00:16
PERSONAL OPINION
I was an avid supporter of the mpps 100 read from and written to more than 50 of the drive without any problem.
after the various updates of the problems to no end mpps v3 one behind the other 5 cars to the cemetery
add to v5 2 other ecu to the graveyard add to the v10, the other 3 cars to the cemetery last week v12 lancia y 1.3 mjet to the cemetery and read without problems in writing jump sw to 70% off car does not start more mpps FROM BUTTAREEEEEEEEE (CLONES crappy ) "orig I can not say anything "
PS:
all ecu's have been recovered in the bdm or other serial
sportknight
01-06-2013, 00:45
I have made a 50ina with the mpps v5 aluminum and not miss a shot,when I can I avoid the gallov2 and use the mpps...
for ede 15 I use the mag-pro 2 or gallo v1 I think these are the best for edc 16 gallo v2 or mpps clearly clone then everyone does as he deems appropriate......
giuseppe1975
03-06-2013, 19:08
However, to me happened that while I was writing with mpps and locked. The car would not start more?. I then tried to re-read the file but nothing, not recognised, not even the ecu. Practically dead, couldn't he read or write. Then I made a sigh I took the mpps, and I wanted to understand what was wrong. With a lot of calm, I found that two pins of the mpps were slightly pulled up. Then I opened the mpps and in reference to those feet you were unsolder. I'm armed with a welder I resolder the whole thing and rewritten. everything is ok. I was lucky not to disassemble the unit and me to do in the bdm. However, and the second time that happens to me, the second time they were not the feet, and the saved riscrivendolo mode? soft. I lost a p? of trust with the mpps. I'm very lucky....
cawadany
03-06-2013, 19:51
To me it has blocked a edc16u31. The I recovery recovery after several attempts.... Still, I had never cheated.... Probably ? was an issue with the hardware of the interface
giuseppe1975
03-06-2013, 21:22
Also my and a edc16, a Honda Civic 2.2. The recovery in the recovery and luckily everything was in good order. Believe me now I'm afraid to re-write a new file, and still I have to do it by force why? I'm trying to solve a problem I have for a long time. We nearly succeeded and we are very close, but you have to do the tests, and every time that attack the cabbage, and mpps me is the fever.
matteo87
03-06-2013, 22:10
Anyway ? a real crap! it gave me a fear of writing anything with any tools!
sportknight
03-06-2013, 22:44
guys,same planet, stay to the battery charger
angelolsp
03-06-2013, 22:49
anyway, or I still don't understand if it's good to put a battery charger or power supply...because some say he is not good for voltage fluctuations
cinqueturbo
04-06-2013, 00:24
Today me and went to standby the pc when I was writing my 206 EDC16c34 vabb? that I had a backup but I will say it aloud or had C..O!!!
I charge power back up and rewrite as nothing was all ok
sportknight
04-06-2013, 00:32
and yet all of the ones I've done 4 or 5,one on Saturday :/
I'm glad for you Cinqueturbo, and honestly I envy you... :D
Had aftermarket radio? It's the only thing that has changed is my father, then it has nothing...
legendaryslave
04-06-2013, 00:59
while I was reading about all the discussion I see that many of you do not protect properly for the job if I decide to write an edc15 I know that on the tour I station dissaldante and programmer for 29f if I decide to write a edc16 from serial me I always do a backup in bdm if I want to write a edc17 I do a good read in boot mode, even to me ? success to block some of the ecu but I was already ready all roads to rifere the work, I would not trust serial numbers even those that ori
sportknight
04-06-2013, 08:35
be sure,you should always protect themselves
good or bad c'? always the way to recover
msport (exil77grande)
04-06-2013, 10:13
Also my and a edc16, a Honda Civic 2.2. The recovery in the recovery and luckily everything was in good order. Believe me now I'm afraid to re-write a new file, and still I have to do it by force why? I'm trying to solve a problem I have for a long time. We nearly succeeded and we are very close, but you have to do the tests, and every time that attack the cabbage, and mpps me is the fever.
if you affidavi we did a write-only and not evidence.
giuseppe1975
04-06-2013, 17:49
Is the pc you should always keep it on charge while you are doing these operations, but the charger as of now, I don't know if the user? still because of the voltage fluctuations. To me have advised to attach an auxiliary battery.
sportknight
04-06-2013, 17:51
the charger gives you power surge??
cawadany
04-06-2013, 18:18
I use a battery charger to the electronic ones, and I think that rush is not.
while I was reading about all the discussion I see that many of you do not protect properly for the job if I decide to write an edc15 I know that on the tour I station dissaldante and programmer for 29f if I decide to write a edc16 from serial me I always do a backup in bdm if I want to write a edc17 I do a good read in boot mode, even to me ? success to block some of the ecu but I was already ready all roads to rifere the work, I would not trust serial numbers even those that ori
I'm not doing nothing, waiting to have a rooster v2 with its Template...Smadonner? a p?, I hope to find info to open, and connect everything in the bdm...But I'm afraid. The edc15 my father does not touch pi?...You could try the boot mode, but I don't trust him...
matteo87
05-06-2013, 16:14
while I was reading about all the discussion I see that many of you do not protect properly for the job if I decide to write an edc15 I know that on the tour I station dissaldante and programmer for 29f if I decide to write a edc16 from serial me I always do a backup in bdm if I want to write a edc17 I do a good read in boot mode, even to me ? success to block some of the ecu but I was already ready all roads to rifere the work, I would not trust serial numbers even those that ori
Holy words! really! at the time I didn't have anything around there?!
the fuse 11 should be of the framework, therefore, has nothing to do with the drivers....I do not ask him to pull it off...or better when you asked me does not make me write the map
sportknight
26-06-2014, 12:17
you must always be ready for every eventuality ;)
angelolsp
26-06-2014, 19:06
meanwhile, when it detaches and reattaches the spi airbag stays on
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