disabling additive fap(cerina) Citroen C5 1.6 hdi

[munro]

Hello to all boys st? for defappare this car, which as you know is mounted on a edc16c34 to ****l off switch the defappaggio I think I have problems...I would have to? a p? not sure about some "stuff"....type:read a p? around that the luca stanca should be also carried out in the BSI, especially for to completely disable the injection of cerina(cerium oxide) in the exhaust once moddato the ecu through a switch just...I wanted to ask you is a thing or a time switcciato the dpf it does not need the mod to the bsi??and if in case you should moddare the bsi can I do that with everything with mpps??

[legendaryslave]

no diagnosed with the insert installation without the fap in bsi and fill the reservoir to the ****llo

[munro]

ok received thanks for the info legendary....

[giuseppe1374]

no diagnosed with the insert installation without the fap in bsi and fill the reservoir to the ****llo
except with a diagnosis, I by pi? the info that it interests to me as well

[legendaryslave]

both texa that lexia but I think others will do the same

[alex68]

quest task before luca stanca opp. also after. thanks legend.

[legendaryslave]

but ? a voice there, and in the bsi then ? indifferent it before or after I have made after ? a treat that you can say allestimanto without dpf

[magi1984]

personally on the 1.6 hdi I never disabled anything with the diagnosis and I never had half the problem, and I assure you that I have made several

[legendaryslave]

personally on the 1.6 hdi I never disabled anything with the diagnosis and I never had half the problem, and I assure you that I have made several
you ? a gem like the spy for 1. mjtd

[munro]

personally on the 1.6 hdi I never disabled anything with the diagnosis and I never had half the problem, and I assure you that I have made several

in practice, the magi..are you saying that ? need to "upgrade" the bsi once deffapata the ecu??

[explode82]

exactly,this has absolutely nothing to disable the voice in bsi

[gezame]

Hello
Is always here to dtc in the ecu relative to the additive fap(cerina).

[giuseppe1374]

ok then, ultimately only by the ecu and not c? the need to touch the bsi.

[motorsport]

I..also I have never disabled in the bsi only from the ecu!!

[gezame]

I..also I have never disabled in the bsi only from the ecu!!

Hello
Some times, in the ecu DTCs related to additive fap(cerina), you do not disabilitta in bsi, can evenings que the car run with the light on, and "Damage Anticontaminacion" registering in the dash or computer.

[legendaryslave]

just make a try you insert the file luca stanca if everything is ok you leave so you go to comb through the bsi

[gezame]

just make a try you insert the file luca stanca if everything is ok you leave so you go to comb through the bsi

Cio
yes, exato.But I always do two things, luca stanca + bsi.

[motorsport]

Hello
Some times, in the ecu DTCs related to additive fap(cerina), you do not disabilitta in bsi, can evenings que the car run with the light on, and "Damage Anticontaminacion" registering in the dash or computer.

if it remains lit in the management of the engine as the ford c max 1.6 I filled up the tank cerina with diesel and light disappeared!!

[sno74]

exact inside in the tank have a float put diesel and reset the values, you can say cha you uploaded the serbatio make the procedure as exchange cerina pu? be a solution or if it works as a floating reverse the two wires ****llo then vacuum - full tension....

[munro]

thanks to all for the info guys....

[gezame]

Hello
I think it is always better to do both of two things (luca stanca + BSI), then we are sure that you will not receive? news of the customer , a few days after the fault in the plug-and-Cerina-and need to be replaced, etc, etc, or other failure of the derivatives of the additive.

[motorsport]

each one is better for what he believes in, I do not or never received complaints from the customer,but you are always experiences in + to keep in the trunk!!

[gezame]

Hello
yes, I also think so.
experiences, experiences, and help.

[sportknight]

what do you mean by bsi?

[giuseppe1374]

what do you mean by bsi?
the bsi ? the united central of the machine, as the body for the fiat, the cas for bmw, the comfort for vw etc etc

[sportknight]

in here,I didn't know of this difference,I thought you called every body,thanks ;)

[cinqueturbo]

Guys sorry s? I appended to your post...
I was wondering how to perform the mechanical work,
the cio? with FAP how to proceed?
Taking the example of a 207HDI 110cv that mounts under the turbo in front of the engine,
the svotate or you create a downpipe ?
with the pressure sensor and the thermal sensor how do you proceed?
you must leave or be removed?

[explode82]

depends on the system,for the car that you mentioned,about the sensors ? at the discretion of your being swichoff the system you can leave as you can remove them..........for the physical part of the dpf ? at the discretion of the one who wants to spend the customer as for the piercing it coast for sure less of the downpipe,and, in my opinion, for a sort of tranquility during a hypothetical control on the road ? best piercing it,but not empty why? otherwise the car is empty supply low rpm

[motorsport]

hello,do not empty it leaves everything attached probes, etc...you just have to bucarlo with three-hole drill bit 12...and you are affixed!!

[cinqueturbo]

perfect!! Thanks!!!
one last question,
always about this 207 at that bypass the intercooler to increase the temperature in the regeneration phase, you may also delete him?
to make cleaning in the engine compartment so to speak...

[motorsport]

perfect!! Thanks!!!
one last question,
always about this 207 at that bypass the intercooler to increase the temperature in the regeneration phase, you may also delete him?
to make cleaning in the engine compartment so to speak...
no.....by the error handling engine!!

[cinqueturbo]

no.....by the error handling engine!!

OK Thanks...

[SandroMarciano]

I take the opportunity to ask a question too, but once you turn off the fap, the cerina even if you do not remove it is no more? used, or ? well, precisely, always replace the diesel?

[motorsport]

not c'? need it, you can leave it on the cerina,if you find the tank empty of cerina, you can replace it with the diesel!!

[SandroMarciano]

perfect, thanks 1000

[micky83]

Hello to all boys st? for defappare this car, which as you know is mounted on a edc16c34 to ****l off switch the defappaggio I think I have problems...I would have to? a p? not sure about some "stuff"....type:read a p? around that the luca stanca should be also carried out in the BSI, especially for to completely disable the injection of cerina(cerium oxide) in the exhaust once moddato the ecu through a switch just...I wanted to ask you is a thing or a time switcciato the dpf it does not need the mod to the bsi??and if in case you should moddare the bsi can I do that with everything with mpps??

Hi guys!
I hope not to miss the discussion! :o
I have the same doubt, but the car in question ? Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi 109cv FAP (2009).
Worth everything shown so far in this discussion, is the construction without the dpf via the diagnosis, the 3 holes with the tip 12 and the part relating to the bsi?
Thanks!

[MatteoP]

Yes, usually the system; if you don't have cerina in the tank you can also disconnect the controller cerina: on the focus ? under the rear seat passenger side: lift the seat, unhook the plug and you don't even more? the "problem of the ****llo tank additive".
Gi? tested on several focus.

[micky83]

Yes, usually the system; if you don't have cerina in the tank you can also disconnect the controller cerina: on the focus ? under the rear seat passenger side: lift the seat, unhook the plug and you don't even more? the "problem of the ****llo tank additive".
Gi? tested on several focus.

OK and thanks for the info!
Only doubt ? the presence of the BSI, I'm not sure that the Ford can be disabled in the preparation DPF via diagnosis (as with Texa).
In the Citroen, certainly, but in the Ford Focus II, I find the presence of this form, or better not to ? visible from the usual diagnosis.
If I'm wrong and I'm saying, heresies, I look forward to Vs confirmations...:o

[legendaryslave]

perfect!! Thanks!!!
one last question,
always about this 207 at that bypass the intercooler to increase the temperature in the regeneration phase, you may also delete him?
to make cleaning in the engine compartment so to speak...
you may delete it but no one does

[motorsport]

OK and thanks for the info!
Only doubt ? the presence of the BSI, I'm not sure that the Ford can be disabled in the preparation DPF via diagnosis (as with Texa).
In the Citroen, certainly, but in the Ford Focus II, I find the presence of this form, or better not to ? visible from the usual diagnosis.
If I'm wrong and I'm saying, heresies, I look forward to Vs confirmations...:o

that I know of nn pu? be disabled tried with the diagnosis ford vcm....

*matteop gi? I tried time ago to pull it off remains in diagnosis, error handling engine!!

[MatteoP]

*Micky83 With Bosch and Texa no, certainly not, establish a diagnosis, but they are not a "adaptations".



Micky, saw what that says motorsport expect to disconnect the controller cerina checking out the better! Sorry!

[micky83]

*Micky83 With Bosch and Texa no, certainly not, establish a diagnosis, but they are not a "adaptations".



Micky, saw what that says motorsport expect to disconnect the controller cerina checking out the better! Sorry!

OK!
With which sw, according to you, you can disable the setting DPF?

I had heard that it was possible to do something by a nation other than Italy,
maybe with the diagnosis Ford VCM, in such a way to"bypass" the preparation DPF.
You/is it possible such a thing?!

[MatteoP]

I think that Time, in the midst of all, take off the switch right :)

[micky83]

I think that Time, in the midst of all, take off the switch right :)

Yes, true that the Time it takes the switch to the right...But I have read lots of info about it and I realized
with some ECU is not ? very compatible, i.e. remove/make changes in the map pi? due
by confusion and/or creating problems later on.

[MatteoP]

You can try to do the change with the one and observe the changes, you should see where the zone "wrong".

[spiki_x]

If you do not correct the configuration in the BSI will send the car into LIMP MODE every now and then. Restarting disappears , but you wrapped it sticks when you don't need.

[micky83]

*Micky83 With Bosch and Texa no, certainly not, establish a diagnosis, but they are not a "adaptations".



Micky, saw what that says motorsport expect to disconnect the controller cerina checking out the better! Sorry!

Hi!

I open this far discussion, because after all this time, despite having done the switch-off of the dpf (Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi, year 2009, 109cv, ecu Bosch EDC16C34), I appeared the unexpected "Failure Engine" on the display on the dashboard, caused precisely by ****llo the bottom of cerina (error in the module called "FACM" for the Ford, its own management-and-cerina-DTC P1932 = "****llo low-viscosity fuel") .

Trying then to disconnect the management module cerina, place under the rear seat area (passenger side...) and along a few kilometers, I find myself now in a diagnosis with two faults in the engine management (PCM), DTC P2584 (="Request MIL command module additive-fuel") and U0118 (=Loss of communication with FACM), at a distance of a few hours at power-up I reported the yellow light of the failure (MIL), although I have not noticed until now no abnormality regarding the behaviour of the car, that is, for now, it did not go into recovery (even when the module was connected and I had the motor failure, taking only a few kilometers away, I have not encountered any anomalies in the mileage).

Now I wonder if there is a final solution (more or less simple!) the problem: someone suggested I rewrite the file with only the luca stanca (only switch-off the Fap in practice) with the management module cerina disconnected, after first reset any DTC present in its memory, and then without starting the car; or "reversing" the wire (but I wouldn't know which!!) plug management module cerina, in order to always detect the ****llo to the max.

Or is it necessary to, in some way, disable the cerina from the management engine, type again to another switch-off in practice?

If you have experiences about the rest in the waiting...!!

[cinqueturbo]

Inizzia with the post file Ori and if that is not a state secret even the mod..
from them we can make a try to disable the related DTC P1932 & P2584
someone off the FACM someone reversed the wires
but in every way to make the adjustments you need to write to the file gold first and then re write the file DPF off

[micky83]

Inizzia with the post file Ori and if that is not a state secret even the mod..
from them we can make a try to disable the related DTC P1932 & P2584
someone off the FACM someone reversed the wires
but in every way to make the adjustments you need to write to the file gold first and then re write the file DPF off

Ok, I have uploaded the file you requested (both the file ori and the mod + fap off).

Keep in mind that I am the person responsible in creating the modified files, so changing the maps would be for me rather complicated, even if I like it and it fascinates me, in fact, with patience I'm describing the problem, and running alone diagnosis (with a common cable Elm327 modified for Ford and software FORScan -latest version available), trying to figure out the various things as the car in question is mine! So the thing I'm interested in in person!


In practice, what it might affect is to disable the control that makes the engine management on the management module cerina FACM, making me turn on the light generic Mil after a couple of km travelled. The DTC in question are P2584-61 and U0118-61, I get then on the form of the engine management (PCM) module disconnected.

The other solution, the one to reverse the wires, it would be more clean, but I think (and I ask you to confirm) that, however, involves the fill the small tank cerina with something (oil or cerina, that is...) because, I suppose, continue to use it and then later... the Same situation if I connect the module FACM, obtaining the DTC P1932 on the same form, and in sguito indicator appears Motor Fault on the display on the dashboard, I imagine, would equally fill the tank-and-cerina-with something to clear the DTC. In the latter two cases, I do not know the long (with the time and km travelled) what would this lead to, if not go to refill that small tank.



P.S. Yesterday in the evening I did try to reset the DTC, and to rewrite only one file, luca stanca: nothing has changed, same story, because it is always detected by the engine management the missing module FACM (currently in the diagnosis, me the marks as "Error" since disconnected). So, for my case, this solution did not work.

[sisco]

hello, I tried to disable p2584 and u 0118 (used soft + manual) if you want to try it calculates the ck

[blackwolf76]

there is a change on the flash that allows you to disconnect the ecu under the rear seat right, without any error or bug in the instrumentation. I've done quite a bit of those... super solution tested. Useless to try with dtc and things of that kind, are to be modified some maps and bits of several scattered around the map.

for more info you can contact me via ****.. mionick + g-but-the or on skype

[micky83]

hello, I tried to disable p2584 and u 0118 (used soft + manual) if you want to try it calculates the ck

Thank you for the help! As soon as possible do I verify or test the file, even if right now I noticed that I can't download the file, perhaps because of some limitation